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Let's all be honest, there's a reason Public transportation sucks, when it could be a pleasant experience
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just_passing_through
2020 Jun 17, 4:08pm
just_passing_through
2020 Jun 17, 4:08pm
PeopleUnited says
No.
But have fun with what you believe.
Show me a bacteria change into an organism with multiple cells and that might be impressive.
No.
But have fun with what you believe.
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Reality
2020 Jun 17, 5:40pm
alpo says
That is actually a very good point. Most "African Americans" (who are not recent immigrants from Africa outside of Liberia) are actually descendants of Slave-Owners! Due to the advantage for slave girls to reproduce with masters (both for herself and for her offspring).
What the Slave-Plantation Party ("Democrats") advocates as "Reparation" is actually taxing the descendants of Union citizens during the Civil War (the Union white population far out-numbered the Confederate white population) who supported, fought and died for the abolishing of slavery to pay the descendants of Confederate Slave-Owners.
there is hardly any "Black" person in United States who doesn't have White ancestry.
That is actually a very good point. Most "African Americans" (who are not recent immigrants from Africa outside of Liberia) are actually descendants of Slave-Owners! Due to the advantage for slave girls to reproduce with masters (both for herself and for her offspring).
What the Slave-Plantation Party ("Democrats") advocates as "Reparation" is actually taxing the descendants of Union citizens during the Civil War (the Union white population far out-numbered the Confederate white population) who supported, fought and died for the abolishing of slavery to pay the descendants of Confederate Slave-Owners.
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PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 18, 4:49am
PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 18, 4:49am
just_dregalicious says
That’s right there is no evidence that bacteria can evolve into anything else but bacteria with different adaptations, but still characteristically demonstrably and verifiably of the lineage and classification of bacteria. Only a religion can make people believe that bacteria will ever change into anything but another type of bacteria. The amazing part is people are not honest enough to admit that it takes more faith to believe life came from nothing than to accept the evidence that everything God says in the Bible is true.
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
John 1:1-3, 5-14 KJV
https://www.bible.com/1/jhn.1.1-3,5-14.kjv
PeopleUnited saysShow me a bacteria change into an organism with multiple cells and that might be impressive.
No.
But have fun with what you believe.
That’s right there is no evidence that bacteria can evolve into anything else but bacteria with different adaptations, but still characteristically demonstrably and verifiably of the lineage and classification of bacteria. Only a religion can make people believe that bacteria will ever change into anything but another type of bacteria. The amazing part is people are not honest enough to admit that it takes more faith to believe life came from nothing than to accept the evidence that everything God says in the Bible is true.
“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”
John 1:1-3, 5-14 KJV
https://www.bible.com/1/jhn.1.1-3,5-14.kjv
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Onvacation
2020 Jun 18, 7:20am
Onvacation
2020 Jun 18, 7:20am
PeopleUnited says
So who created the creator?
Scientists can’t even reanimate a dead organism. It is foolish superstition to think that millions of years accidentally spontaneously become complex organisms, even simple organisms don’t just “happen” without a creator.
So who created the creator?
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PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 18, 8:21am
PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 18, 8:21am
Onvacation says
He says I AM that I AM.
“And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.”
Exodus 3:14 KJV
https://www.bible.com/1/exo.3.14.kjv
He just IS. No beginning, and no end. Seek Him and He will give you the same gift for life without end.
“These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them. And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves. I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.”
John 17:1-26 KJV
https://www.bible.com/1/jhn.17.1-26.kjv
PeopleUnited saysScientists can’t even reanimate a dead organism. It is foolish superstition to think that millions of years accidentally spontaneously become complex organisms, even simple organisms don’t just “happen” without a creator.
So who created the creator?
He says I AM that I AM.
“And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.”
Exodus 3:14 KJV
https://www.bible.com/1/exo.3.14.kjv
He just IS. No beginning, and no end. Seek Him and He will give you the same gift for life without end.
“These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee. For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me. I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine. And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them. And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves. I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth. Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me. And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.”
John 17:1-26 KJV
https://www.bible.com/1/jhn.17.1-26.kjv
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Tenpoundbass
2020 Jun 18, 10:29am
Tenpoundbass
2020 Jun 18, 10:29am
God created physics the rest took eons and eons.
God Created man in his image, was some creative writing by Franciscan monks 1500 years ago interpreting a Jewish Allegory.
God is more abstract than the Universe. He is so Universal that all Human cultures have the concept of God, in different ways. But no mistake they are inspired by the same God.
Where religions get it wrong is how they manifest him, and creation.
But what is the right way to manifest God? Just look at the theories of what the Universe is and how was created. There's as many theories as their are Religions.
Religion is a basic requirement for humanity. We try too hard to understand, that we often miss the universal message. Without religion, there would be no humanity.
Religion is there to chill people the eph out. Without it, Civilization would have never been created. One group of people would have killed the other group of people that first moved from hunter gatherers to Civilization. There would have been no morals, and not much to fight for. Just humans acting on human animal instincts indiscriminately.
You don't have to be a devout Religious person to understand and appreciate the universal basic concept of Religion that happened around the same time independently, with all cultures separated by Oceans and Terrain.
Where it got messy, was when one religion wanted to be the only religion. But that's on Man, God didn't ask for that.
God Created man in his image, was some creative writing by Franciscan monks 1500 years ago interpreting a Jewish Allegory.
God is more abstract than the Universe. He is so Universal that all Human cultures have the concept of God, in different ways. But no mistake they are inspired by the same God.
Where religions get it wrong is how they manifest him, and creation.
But what is the right way to manifest God? Just look at the theories of what the Universe is and how was created. There's as many theories as their are Religions.
Religion is a basic requirement for humanity. We try too hard to understand, that we often miss the universal message. Without religion, there would be no humanity.
Religion is there to chill people the eph out. Without it, Civilization would have never been created. One group of people would have killed the other group of people that first moved from hunter gatherers to Civilization. There would have been no morals, and not much to fight for. Just humans acting on human animal instincts indiscriminately.
You don't have to be a devout Religious person to understand and appreciate the universal basic concept of Religion that happened around the same time independently, with all cultures separated by Oceans and Terrain.
Where it got messy, was when one religion wanted to be the only religion. But that's on Man, God didn't ask for that.
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PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 18, 4:03pm
PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 18, 4:03pm
Tenpoundbass says
If you can acknowledge that God established “natural laws” such as physics, why is it so much more to take Him at his word regarding the rest of his creation, age of earth for example?
Tenpoundbass says
Or it was a reference to the fact humans have a mind, body and spirit/soul just like God does.
Tenpoundbass says
This is evidence that religion is a man made thinG. But it does not change the fact that God made everything and gave us the Bible (as a history/how to, and oh by the way this is what is going to happen the future book) so that no one can claim ignorance of the truth.
Tenpoundbass says
Religion is mans attempt to placate God. He doesn’t want your service, money, sacrifice. That is why God rejected Cain’s sacrifice. What God wants is to be your sacrifice, simple accept you are not worth of His forgiveness but that He gave his son in your place. All the rest is meaningless if we fail to accept that we are sinners in need of a Savior.
God created physics the rest took eons and eons
If you can acknowledge that God established “natural laws” such as physics, why is it so much more to take Him at his word regarding the rest of his creation, age of earth for example?
Tenpoundbass says
God Created man in his image, was some creative writing by Franciscan monks 1500 years ago interpreting a Jewish Allegory.
Or it was a reference to the fact humans have a mind, body and spirit/soul just like God does.
Tenpoundbass says
But what is the right way to manifest God? Just look at the theories of what the Universe is and how was created. There's as many theories as their are Religions.
This is evidence that religion is a man made thinG. But it does not change the fact that God made everything and gave us the Bible (as a history/how to, and oh by the way this is what is going to happen the future book) so that no one can claim ignorance of the truth.
Tenpoundbass says
Where it got messy, was when one religion wanted to be the only religion. But that's on Man, God didn't ask for that
Religion is mans attempt to placate God. He doesn’t want your service, money, sacrifice. That is why God rejected Cain’s sacrifice. What God wants is to be your sacrifice, simple accept you are not worth of His forgiveness but that He gave his son in your place. All the rest is meaningless if we fail to accept that we are sinners in need of a Savior.
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Kepi
2020 Jun 18, 4:51pm
Kepi
2020 Jun 18, 4:51pm
Geez, I thought I was getting a little off theme when I brought up the facts about “blacks” and why public transportation is commonly shit in certain areas (and, with respect to “blacks”, in all areas, actually).
The OP did present an image of “blacks” in a public transportation setting so I thought I was not getting too far off base (if at all) from the theme of the OP's thread. I presented information that I think is appropriate and relevant for my claim of social disruption and violence by members of the society.
But, wow, this thread has gone goofy.
I restate the OP's title, “Let's all be honest, there's a reason Public transportation sucks, when it could be a pleasant experience.”
What in the world does God talk have to do with what the OP (as far as I can tell) had in mind to have a conversation about? Bacteria? When and how and if God was created? Geez! Start a new thread!
The OP did present an image of “blacks” in a public transportation setting so I thought I was not getting too far off base (if at all) from the theme of the OP's thread. I presented information that I think is appropriate and relevant for my claim of social disruption and violence by members of the society.
But, wow, this thread has gone goofy.
I restate the OP's title, “Let's all be honest, there's a reason Public transportation sucks, when it could be a pleasant experience.”
What in the world does God talk have to do with what the OP (as far as I can tell) had in mind to have a conversation about? Bacteria? When and how and if God was created? Geez! Start a new thread!
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just_passing_through
2020 Jun 18, 6:09pm
just_passing_through
2020 Jun 18, 6:09pm
PeopleUnited says
There is an empty street corner near where you live just waiting for someone to come along with a megaphone. I recommend you get going!
Tenpoundbass saysGod created physics the rest took eons and eons
If you can acknowledge that God established “natural laws” such as physics, why is it so much more to take Him at his word regarding the rest of his creation, age of earth for example?
Tenpoundbass saysGod Created man in his image, was some creative writing by Franciscan monks 1500 years ago interpreting a Jewish Allegory.
Or it was a reference to the fact humans have a mind, body and spirit/soul just like God does.
Tenpoundbass saysBut what is the right way to manifest God? Just look at the theories of what the Universe is and how was created. There's as many theories as their are Religions.
This is evidence that religion is a man ma...
There is an empty street corner near where you live just waiting for someone to come along with a megaphone. I recommend you get going!
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just_passing_through
2020 Jun 18, 6:29pm
just_passing_through
2020 Jun 18, 6:29pm
Tenpoundbass says
Ah, now you're talking! Physics, well that's a REAL science. If you were interested in this stuff I'm sure you'd be very good at it. As an aside science never proves anything. Math does but not science. Science just gathers a preponderance of evidence until it reaches a point where only a moron or an asshole would question it. Climate science isn't even close to that category. There aren't a lot of things that fit that category but evolution is in the top 2.
So not to feed the bible thumper but since you brought physics up check this out:
This guy took the rules from evolution and came up with game theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Maynard_Smith
Some other scientists later expanded on that and showed that evolution (and game theory) tunes organisms (and algorithms) such that their perception is best suited for 'fitness'. When they forced their bots into also considering 'reality' they became less fit and it took more energy. That and a bunch of other physics (like the math involved for the Planck constant and its relatives; which get down to the smallest length possible, and the structures that form are these little triangles that actually make up PROGRAMMING LANGUNAGES <6 or 7 of them if I recall>) show us that it's not 'turtles all the way down' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Turtle but instead, 'mathematical structure all the way down'.
So we're basically living in a simulation. Our perception of what is really all around us is wrong, including evolution, much like our perception of what is happening with we type on our computer keyboard. We see text show up on the screen but what's REALLY happening is springs are compressed, electrical circuits are executed and so on.
We perceive everything through the interface of our brain which isn't really seeing reality. Just what we need to see to procreate etc., There is a word for it I can just never remember. Like vooshigy or something. Humans vooshigy is much different than what a bat or another organism perceives. There are even humans coming on line now (mostly women) who can see colors that most other humans can't.
So we see the world not as it is but how it best suits us.
Actually, I found a video that covers this well:
www.youtube.com/embed/UJukJiNEl4o
It'll fuck your mind up though. Also doesn't cover the Planck stuff or the math I mentioned. Still muy interesting though.
I don't mind Christians. I used to be one. Catholic even. Until over time I realized it's all BS. I still live by Judeo-Christian values because they are useful. However, they didn't need to come from religion. Evolutionary biologists find the seeds of similar morality if chimp culture for christ sake. But that's another story...
Brainwashed people that try to lecture me, or won't give their 8 year old a soda because 'god doesn't want them to have it', among a plethora of other boorish behavior are annoying as fuck.
God created physics
Ah, now you're talking! Physics, well that's a REAL science. If you were interested in this stuff I'm sure you'd be very good at it. As an aside science never proves anything. Math does but not science. Science just gathers a preponderance of evidence until it reaches a point where only a moron or an asshole would question it. Climate science isn't even close to that category. There aren't a lot of things that fit that category but evolution is in the top 2.
So not to feed the bible thumper but since you brought physics up check this out:
This guy took the rules from evolution and came up with game theory: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Maynard_Smith
Some other scientists later expanded on that and showed that evolution (and game theory) tunes organisms (and algorithms) such that their perception is best suited for 'fitness'. When they forced their bots into also considering 'reality' they became less fit and it took more energy. That and a bunch of other physics (like the math involved for the Planck constant and its relatives; which get down to the smallest length possible, and the structures that form are these little triangles that actually make up PROGRAMMING LANGUNAGES <6 or 7 of them if I recall>) show us that it's not 'turtles all the way down' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Turtle but instead, 'mathematical structure all the way down'.
So we're basically living in a simulation. Our perception of what is really all around us is wrong, including evolution, much like our perception of what is happening with we type on our computer keyboard. We see text show up on the screen but what's REALLY happening is springs are compressed, electrical circuits are executed and so on.
We perceive everything through the interface of our brain which isn't really seeing reality. Just what we need to see to procreate etc., There is a word for it I can just never remember. Like vooshigy or something. Humans vooshigy is much different than what a bat or another organism perceives. There are even humans coming on line now (mostly women) who can see colors that most other humans can't.
So we see the world not as it is but how it best suits us.
Actually, I found a video that covers this well:
www.youtube.com/embed/UJukJiNEl4o
It'll fuck your mind up though. Also doesn't cover the Planck stuff or the math I mentioned. Still muy interesting though.
I don't mind Christians. I used to be one. Catholic even. Until over time I realized it's all BS. I still live by Judeo-Christian values because they are useful. However, they didn't need to come from religion. Evolutionary biologists find the seeds of similar morality if chimp culture for christ sake. But that's another story...
Brainwashed people that try to lecture me, or won't give their 8 year old a soda because 'god doesn't want them to have it', among a plethora of other boorish behavior are annoying as fuck.
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just_passing_through
2020 Jun 18, 6:31pm
just_passing_through
2020 Jun 18, 6:31pm
Also, maybe God did create physics? Who the hell knows... Science and religion are mutually exclusive. I always find it laughable when preachers try to give me the 'poof' it all just appeared story. They are effectively saying that their god isn't good enough to do things that way. It's too much for their little pea brains or something.
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just_passing_through
2020 Jun 18, 6:34pm
just_passing_through
2020 Jun 18, 6:34pm
Kepi says
Please accept my half-hearted apology. Also my acceptance that you are right.
Geez, I thought I was getting a little off theme
Please accept my half-hearted apology. Also my acceptance that you are right.
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just_passing_through
2020 Jun 18, 6:51pm
just_passing_through
2020 Jun 18, 6:51pm
Aww hell, I just can't stop.
@10lb: Have you ever heard of the double slit experiment? Not the one with Asian hookers, the physics version? It's sort of required reading before that video. Essentially it's this
Put up a piece of cardboard with two vertical slits in it maybe 5 feet from a wall. Now you on the other side, fire ONE photon at it.
Attempt-1: Don't pay it any attention, the 'photon' will go through BOTH slits and make a wave pattern on the wall.
Attempt-2: Repeat attempt-1 however this time watch it. It will only through one of the slits and will make a point pattern on the wall.
Attempt-3: Get sneaky and get between the wall and the slits but don't do anything to observe the photon when you fire it. However after it's gone through both slits, quickly observe it. That motherfucker backs up in time, goes back through the slits, picks a single slit to go through then makes a point pattern on the wall.
The implications are unreal. But except for the time travel and the fact that observation affects reality it's a wave function collapsing. All reality are wave functions collapsing. All electrons are wave functions collapsing. It is conceivable that there is only 1 electron in the universe even though our models describe electron flow, etc.,
@10lb: Have you ever heard of the double slit experiment? Not the one with Asian hookers, the physics version? It's sort of required reading before that video. Essentially it's this
Put up a piece of cardboard with two vertical slits in it maybe 5 feet from a wall. Now you on the other side, fire ONE photon at it.
Attempt-1: Don't pay it any attention, the 'photon' will go through BOTH slits and make a wave pattern on the wall.
Attempt-2: Repeat attempt-1 however this time watch it. It will only through one of the slits and will make a point pattern on the wall.
Attempt-3: Get sneaky and get between the wall and the slits but don't do anything to observe the photon when you fire it. However after it's gone through both slits, quickly observe it. That motherfucker backs up in time, goes back through the slits, picks a single slit to go through then makes a point pattern on the wall.
The implications are unreal. But except for the time travel and the fact that observation affects reality it's a wave function collapsing. All reality are wave functions collapsing. All electrons are wave functions collapsing. It is conceivable that there is only 1 electron in the universe even though our models describe electron flow, etc.,
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Tenpoundbass
2020 Jun 18, 7:06pm
Tenpoundbass
2020 Jun 18, 7:06pm
just_dregalicious says
Ah but math is science as the variables changes, it takes Science to produce the formulas. Math is just taking formulas Scientists have already figured out.
It's the Science cheat sheet.
Ah, now you're talking! Physics, well that's a REAL science. If you were interested in this stuff I'm sure you'd be very good at it. As an aside science never proves anything. Math does but not science.
Ah but math is science as the variables changes, it takes Science to produce the formulas. Math is just taking formulas Scientists have already figured out.
It's the Science cheat sheet.
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just_passing_through
2020 Jun 18, 7:09pm
just_passing_through
2020 Jun 18, 7:09pm
Scientists are a bunch of deaf, blind, nincompoops in a dark cold room trying to find their way out. Every once in a while one of them comes up with a helpful mathematical principle that moves them one step closer. Or they hire a mathematician to do it right for them.
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Tenpoundbass
2020 Jun 18, 7:27pm
Tenpoundbass
2020 Jun 18, 7:27pm
Two things, I would be a tee totaler Flat Earther before I would believe in the Simulation Experiment. That's just Zombie science.
There's no such thing and never will be as Time Travel. Time is way more than a chronological time in the serial sequence of the universe existence.
It's a snapshot of all 4 dimensions. We're on this rock flying through the big great void of nothing. Which is big enough to hold everything that ever was, every thing that is now(although technically that void isn't nothing right now) and everything that ever will be. Everyone is amazed by how big and massive the Universe is. I'm impressed with the big huge void that the universe is hurtling through at millions of miles an hour. And like a long boxcar train, once that train passes that spot, just a big empty void is left, that will never occupy time or space ever again. But more amazing than that, is the huge vast expansion there still is to go through. We're never going to run out of track.
So we've got that, the whole you can never cross the same river twice. That's all part of the 4th dimension where we are at this very moment. Once the caboose catches up, nothing will ever occupy this space ever again.
Now gravity being like a membrane, and you have one planet on one side, represented with a green pea, and 6 feet on the other end, represents Hundreds of Thousands of light years away, with another green pea. Now the wormhole theory that spawned time travel and universe short cuts. They say "You just have to bend the fabric of space to make the ends meet. The universe is more like a huge Dust Bunny, with interconnecting dark mater gluing everything together. So drop a bowling ball in the center of the membrane, not only does your planet move closer to the one on the other side. But so does everything else in between. It will end up with a smashed up broken mess, if it were possible.
You would need something so massive and huge to make that much of a significant bend in the fabric, it could be seen from anywhere in the universe. You're private time travel or Galaxy hopping joy ride would cause so much calamity, and there would be nothing to come back to.
But sure it makes for fun math.
There's no such thing and never will be as Time Travel. Time is way more than a chronological time in the serial sequence of the universe existence.
It's a snapshot of all 4 dimensions. We're on this rock flying through the big great void of nothing. Which is big enough to hold everything that ever was, every thing that is now(although technically that void isn't nothing right now) and everything that ever will be. Everyone is amazed by how big and massive the Universe is. I'm impressed with the big huge void that the universe is hurtling through at millions of miles an hour. And like a long boxcar train, once that train passes that spot, just a big empty void is left, that will never occupy time or space ever again. But more amazing than that, is the huge vast expansion there still is to go through. We're never going to run out of track.
So we've got that, the whole you can never cross the same river twice. That's all part of the 4th dimension where we are at this very moment. Once the caboose catches up, nothing will ever occupy this space ever again.
Now gravity being like a membrane, and you have one planet on one side, represented with a green pea, and 6 feet on the other end, represents Hundreds of Thousands of light years away, with another green pea. Now the wormhole theory that spawned time travel and universe short cuts. They say "You just have to bend the fabric of space to make the ends meet. The universe is more like a huge Dust Bunny, with interconnecting dark mater gluing everything together. So drop a bowling ball in the center of the membrane, not only does your planet move closer to the one on the other side. But so does everything else in between. It will end up with a smashed up broken mess, if it were possible.
You would need something so massive and huge to make that much of a significant bend in the fabric, it could be seen from anywhere in the universe. You're private time travel or Galaxy hopping joy ride would cause so much calamity, and there would be nothing to come back to.
But sure it makes for fun math.
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just_passing_through
2020 Jun 18, 7:44pm
just_passing_through
2020 Jun 18, 7:44pm
Tenpoundbass says
Slits were real physical experiments. I encourage you to read up on this stuff more. Maybe too late for a career but you're edgy and those are the guys who make breakthroughs.
I got a kick out of a comment you made a couple years ago or so: Something about the oceans won't rise due to glacier melt because the extra weight causes the water to sink in and be absorbed by the continents or something. Maybe even the source of waterfalls, etc.,? I thought the first part is plausible and I hadn't heard anyone consider that before. The latter is a noooo! haha
Actually, if it were a low water fall maybe.
I would be a tee totaler Flat Earther before I would believe in the Simulation Experiment.
Slits were real physical experiments. I encourage you to read up on this stuff more. Maybe too late for a career but you're edgy and those are the guys who make breakthroughs.
I got a kick out of a comment you made a couple years ago or so: Something about the oceans won't rise due to glacier melt because the extra weight causes the water to sink in and be absorbed by the continents or something. Maybe even the source of waterfalls, etc.,? I thought the first part is plausible and I hadn't heard anyone consider that before. The latter is a noooo! haha
Actually, if it were a low water fall maybe.
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Tenpoundbass
2020 Jun 18, 8:14pm
Tenpoundbass
2020 Jun 18, 8:14pm
just_dregalicious says
Yes there's a 33ish thousand feet correlational between the deepest the Ocean can physically get, and the highest mountains can get.
Have you ever seen fresh water Springs bubble up from the ground. Or have you ever been up mountains and see the rocks secreting a constant trickles of water, that collect to form little streams, then connect into creeks then eventually feed Rivers? I always saw that in the Blue Ridge mountains, and saw it in the Andes mountains. The leaks are coming from cracks in the rocks, not from the top, which would be what you would expect with condensation or precipitation. The water the rivers feed the ocean is equal to the waters that percolate and create all of the rivers feeding into the ocean. No sea level rise.
I got a kick out of a comment you made a couple years ago or so: Something about the oceans won't rise due to glacier melt because the extra weight causes the water to sink in and be absorbed by the continents or something. Maybe even the source of waterfalls, etc.,? I thought the first part is plausible and I hadn't heard anyone consider that before. The latter is a noooo! haha
Yes there's a 33ish thousand feet correlational between the deepest the Ocean can physically get, and the highest mountains can get.
Have you ever seen fresh water Springs bubble up from the ground. Or have you ever been up mountains and see the rocks secreting a constant trickles of water, that collect to form little streams, then connect into creeks then eventually feed Rivers? I always saw that in the Blue Ridge mountains, and saw it in the Andes mountains. The leaks are coming from cracks in the rocks, not from the top, which would be what you would expect with condensation or precipitation. The water the rivers feed the ocean is equal to the waters that percolate and create all of the rivers feeding into the ocean. No sea level rise.
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Tenpoundbass
2020 Jun 18, 8:17pm
Tenpoundbass
2020 Jun 18, 8:17pm
just_dregalicious says
I didn't have a problem with the slit experiment, I've seen it before. I was commenting on the Simulation theory, that we're all living in a Sims.
That's just poppy cock I wouldn't take any more serious than Flat Earth nonsense. That's what gets me about Atheists, They refuse to believe in a higher power, but they would totally be all in on Simulation theory. Or some other lazy thought process to be the stopgap where Science can't explain any further.
Slits were real physical experiments.
I didn't have a problem with the slit experiment, I've seen it before. I was commenting on the Simulation theory, that we're all living in a Sims.
That's just poppy cock I wouldn't take any more serious than Flat Earth nonsense. That's what gets me about Atheists, They refuse to believe in a higher power, but they would totally be all in on Simulation theory. Or some other lazy thought process to be the stopgap where Science can't explain any further.
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Tenpoundbass
2020 Jun 18, 8:41pm
Tenpoundbass
2020 Jun 18, 8:41pm
So the Double Slit experiment doesn't prove light is waves. It only proves that light refracts and creates ripples. Water does that but it isn't a wave it's a state of particles.
If you poured water through those slits, it would run down and trickle through the slits, then if it were possible to observe how the water was interacting once the water dripped to the bottom of the box, you would see the ripples on bottom. When you apply filters to optics, you don't see that light spectrum or everything you would see would be awash. You see the light bouncing off the object it illuminated. The observable wavelengths of light, are waves created from lighting hitting an object. \
I still believe that light travels in an undiscovered state until it hits something and the photons interact and create light waves we see. Like not being able to see water, but being able to see when something is wet.
If you poured water through those slits, it would run down and trickle through the slits, then if it were possible to observe how the water was interacting once the water dripped to the bottom of the box, you would see the ripples on bottom. When you apply filters to optics, you don't see that light spectrum or everything you would see would be awash. You see the light bouncing off the object it illuminated. The observable wavelengths of light, are waves created from lighting hitting an object. \
I still believe that light travels in an undiscovered state until it hits something and the photons interact and create light waves we see. Like not being able to see water, but being able to see when something is wet.
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just_passing_through
2020 Jun 18, 9:12pm
just_passing_through
2020 Jun 18, 9:12pm
Tenpoundbass says
Indeed, grew up at the foot of the Texas Hill Country. A limestone sponge that soaks up the rain called the Edwards Aquifer. I knew secret swimming holes where fresh water sprang up you could drink without a filter. But in other places I could imagine the land soaking the water up like a sponge. It was only a few years ago we discovered there is likely more biomass underground than above it. That could be an active pump so to speak if I were being imaginative.
Tenpoundbass says
I see, yeah, sims have a lot to show, but fun to consider.
Tenpoundbass says
Well, I'm no physicist so touché. My understanding from physicists is they are suggesting all of reality (the way we see it) doesn't even really exist until some consciousness observes it which collapses a wave function. Kind of like that, "Does a bear take a crap...", wait no, "If a tree falls in a forest and nobody was there to see it did it make a sound?" - no if 'no consciousness' was there to observe it then it didn't even fall yet. It's potentiality would be there in a wave function that collapses when observed. Deep shit.
I'm no atheist, I'm agnostic. Who the fuck knows but I'll tell you this: The more I learn about science the more it seems there is some higher level of control. It might be someone playing a video game though.
Have you ever seen fresh water Springs bubble up from the ground.
Indeed, grew up at the foot of the Texas Hill Country. A limestone sponge that soaks up the rain called the Edwards Aquifer. I knew secret swimming holes where fresh water sprang up you could drink without a filter. But in other places I could imagine the land soaking the water up like a sponge. It was only a few years ago we discovered there is likely more biomass underground than above it. That could be an active pump so to speak if I were being imaginative.
Tenpoundbass says
I was commenting on the Simulation theory, that we're all living in a Sims.
I see, yeah, sims have a lot to show, but fun to consider.
Tenpoundbass says
So the Double Slit experiment doesn't prove light is waves.
Well, I'm no physicist so touché. My understanding from physicists is they are suggesting all of reality (the way we see it) doesn't even really exist until some consciousness observes it which collapses a wave function. Kind of like that, "Does a bear take a crap...", wait no, "If a tree falls in a forest and nobody was there to see it did it make a sound?" - no if 'no consciousness' was there to observe it then it didn't even fall yet. It's potentiality would be there in a wave function that collapses when observed. Deep shit.
I'm no atheist, I'm agnostic. Who the fuck knows but I'll tell you this: The more I learn about science the more it seems there is some higher level of control. It might be someone playing a video game though.
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MAGA
2020 Jun 18, 10:22pm
MAGA
2020 Jun 18, 10:22pm
Its been scientifically proven that white women like the 'black snake.'
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Ceffer
2020 Jun 18, 10:46pm
Ceffer
2020 Jun 18, 10:46pm
There are challenges to the standard evolutionary models, though they don't come from religion, they come from mathematics.
Some mathematicians don't believe life's low probability incidence and variation can be explained by 3 billion years of evolution. Much vaster time scales would have been required if life rose on Earth alone. They see evolution as a special case to explain variations over relatively short times. Darwin wasn't wrong, he was just looking at special situations from which the entirety of life and evolution could not be properly inferred.
At least I think that is how it goes more or less. These mathematicians seem to be quite serious about it. They, however, don't know what principle or mover stirred the pot to accelerate or catalyze matters.
Some mathematicians don't believe life's low probability incidence and variation can be explained by 3 billion years of evolution. Much vaster time scales would have been required if life rose on Earth alone. They see evolution as a special case to explain variations over relatively short times. Darwin wasn't wrong, he was just looking at special situations from which the entirety of life and evolution could not be properly inferred.
At least I think that is how it goes more or less. These mathematicians seem to be quite serious about it. They, however, don't know what principle or mover stirred the pot to accelerate or catalyze matters.
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mostly_reader
2020 Jun 18, 11:27pm
> Ceffer
Darwin wasn't wrong, just incomplete. He never claimed to be complete either AFAIK.
Darwin wasn't wrong, just incomplete. He never claimed to be complete either AFAIK.
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PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 19, 4:40am
PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 19, 4:40am
just_dregalicious says
Which “Judeo-Christian” values do the chimps demonstrate here? Looks more like rival gangs and winner takes all. That is the exact opposite of values one would find in a moral, respect ones elders society of Judeo-Christian values.
www.youtube.com/embed/c2u3NKXbGeo
https://youtu.be/4XP6T1CMgBQ
Come to think of it, there is not much of a judeo-Christian influence in mainstream anymore either. Just look around. The extremists are tearing down every single statue, deplatforming voices that don’t support the anti-judeo-Christian narrative, and labeling/marginalizing anyone who truly with an open heart studies, understands and believes actual New and Old Testament scriptures (the foundation of Judeo-Christian values). People who legitimately live Judeo-Christian values are worse than villains in this world. I know, because that is how some here have treated me. They cannot tolerate a discussion or revelation or even a testimony from someone who might know something about God they never considered. In fact they are too proud to admit they have decided to ignore God and His word because it is not convenient to give up their sin and try to live more like Jesus. They are the worst kind of bigots, because they are convinced that their bigotry is righteous.
similar morality if chimp culture
Which “Judeo-Christian” values do the chimps demonstrate here? Looks more like rival gangs and winner takes all. That is the exact opposite of values one would find in a moral, respect ones elders society of Judeo-Christian values.
www.youtube.com/embed/c2u3NKXbGeo
https://youtu.be/4XP6T1CMgBQ
Come to think of it, there is not much of a judeo-Christian influence in mainstream anymore either. Just look around. The extremists are tearing down every single statue, deplatforming voices that don’t support the anti-judeo-Christian narrative, and labeling/marginalizing anyone who truly with an open heart studies, understands and believes actual New and Old Testament scriptures (the foundation of Judeo-Christian values). People who legitimately live Judeo-Christian values are worse than villains in this world. I know, because that is how some here have treated me. They cannot tolerate a discussion or revelation or even a testimony from someone who might know something about God they never considered. In fact they are too proud to admit they have decided to ignore God and His word because it is not convenient to give up their sin and try to live more like Jesus. They are the worst kind of bigots, because they are convinced that their bigotry is righteous.
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just_passing_through
2020 Jun 19, 9:34am
just_passing_through
2020 Jun 19, 9:34am
Ceffer says
Yeah, I've seen those guys and you took the words right out of my mouth. One of them is a religious freak though. Not your normal run of the mill normal religious person but one of those weirdos claims he knows what god thinks and believes the bible verbatim. A zealot. The type that uses the word 'fact' when speaking about said religion. Maybe they're carrying around a serpent or two. Those are the kind of people who I don't want to know what they're up to when nobody else is around if you know what I mean.
They, however, don't know what principle or mover stirred the pot to accelerate or catalyze matters.
Yeah, I've seen those guys and you took the words right out of my mouth. One of them is a religious freak though. Not your normal run of the mill normal religious person but one of those weirdos claims he knows what god thinks and believes the bible verbatim. A zealot. The type that uses the word 'fact' when speaking about said religion. Maybe they're carrying around a serpent or two. Those are the kind of people who I don't want to know what they're up to when nobody else is around if you know what I mean.
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PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 19, 11:07am
PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 19, 11:07am
William Penn Quotations
"There is a zeal without knowledge, that is superstition. There is a zeal against knowledge, that is interest or faction; there is a zeal with knowledge, that is religion; and if you will view the countries of cruelty, you will find them superstitious rather than religious. Religion is gentle, it makes men better, more friendly, loving and patient than before."
"No people can be truly happy, though under the greatest enjoyments of civil liberties, if abridged of the Freedom of their Conscience as to their Religious Profession and Worship." (Pennsylvania Charter of Liberties, 1701)
"If we will not be governed by God, we must be governed by tyrants."
"There is a zeal without knowledge, that is superstition. There is a zeal against knowledge, that is interest or faction; there is a zeal with knowledge, that is religion; and if you will view the countries of cruelty, you will find them superstitious rather than religious. Religion is gentle, it makes men better, more friendly, loving and patient than before."
"No people can be truly happy, though under the greatest enjoyments of civil liberties, if abridged of the Freedom of their Conscience as to their Religious Profession and Worship." (Pennsylvania Charter of Liberties, 1701)
"If we will not be governed by God, we must be governed by tyrants."
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PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 19, 2:24pm
PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 19, 2:24pm
mostly_reader says
William Provine, a professor in the Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology at the distinguished Cornell University, commented on Darwin’s position on morals as they relate to evolution. Eleven years ago, Provine delivered the keynote address at the second annual Darwin Day on the campus of the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. In an abstract of that speech, on UT’s Darwin Day Web site, Provine’s introductory comments are recorded in the following words: “Naturalistic evolution has clear consequences that Charles Darwin understood perfectly. 1) No gods worth having exist; 2) no life after death exists; 3) no ultimate foundation for ethics exists; 4) no ultimate meaning in life exists; and 5) human free will is nonexistent” (1998, emp. added).
Carefully notice the underlying effects of such assertions. If there is no God, as Darwin admitted evolution implies, then humans are not bound by any moral standard other than the instincts that each human desires to follow. Thus, if one person considers it best to beat his children, while another considers it best to lovingly nurture his children, according to evolution, both would be acting in accord with their evolutionary origins, and neither would be guilty of any real, moral right or wrong. Heinously immoral actions, such as infanticide, rape, murder, sexual promiscuity, pedophilia, homosexuality, adultery, and abortion, have all found justification in Darwin’s theory. Darwin’s theory implies that humans can act like animals without any moral responsibility.
Provine, William (1998), “Evolution: Free Will and Punishment and Meaning in Life,”
Darwin wasn't wrong, just incomplete.
William Provine, a professor in the Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology at the distinguished Cornell University, commented on Darwin’s position on morals as they relate to evolution. Eleven years ago, Provine delivered the keynote address at the second annual Darwin Day on the campus of the University of Tennessee in Knoxville. In an abstract of that speech, on UT’s Darwin Day Web site, Provine’s introductory comments are recorded in the following words: “Naturalistic evolution has clear consequences that Charles Darwin understood perfectly. 1) No gods worth having exist; 2) no life after death exists; 3) no ultimate foundation for ethics exists; 4) no ultimate meaning in life exists; and 5) human free will is nonexistent” (1998, emp. added).
Carefully notice the underlying effects of such assertions. If there is no God, as Darwin admitted evolution implies, then humans are not bound by any moral standard other than the instincts that each human desires to follow. Thus, if one person considers it best to beat his children, while another considers it best to lovingly nurture his children, according to evolution, both would be acting in accord with their evolutionary origins, and neither would be guilty of any real, moral right or wrong. Heinously immoral actions, such as infanticide, rape, murder, sexual promiscuity, pedophilia, homosexuality, adultery, and abortion, have all found justification in Darwin’s theory. Darwin’s theory implies that humans can act like animals without any moral responsibility.
Provine, William (1998), “Evolution: Free Will and Punishment and Meaning in Life,”
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Ceffer
2020 Jun 19, 10:18pm
Ceffer
2020 Jun 19, 10:18pm
just_dregalicious says
Yes, I saw the drift toward theism. However, if the mathematical models are true and can be validated over time and skepticism, there could be other explanations such as panspermia, or even guided evolution by aliens at some point in human history or the 'life as alien lab rat' theory.
The mathematical theory would require a 'catalyst theory' to supplement it, and certainly many would simply choose traditional religion of some sort to fill the gap. However, the religious angle doesn't have to be the only angle.
One of them is a religious freak though. Not your normal run of the mill normal religious person but one of those weirdos claims he knows what god thinks and believes the bible verbatim. A zealot
Yes, I saw the drift toward theism. However, if the mathematical models are true and can be validated over time and skepticism, there could be other explanations such as panspermia, or even guided evolution by aliens at some point in human history or the 'life as alien lab rat' theory.
The mathematical theory would require a 'catalyst theory' to supplement it, and certainly many would simply choose traditional religion of some sort to fill the gap. However, the religious angle doesn't have to be the only angle.
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PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 20, 5:53am
PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 20, 5:53am
Ceffer says
Well slap me silly and call me a scruffy looking nerf herder!!
Ah yes, the midichlorian and ancient alien origins hypotheses.
https://www.starwars.com/news/so-what-the-heck-are-midi-chlorians
When people resort to creating a new mythology every few years to support their world view, what does that say about their world view?
God is an extraterrestrial of sorts so at least this hypothesis is consistent with evidence.
.just_dregalicious says
God’s word spoke the world into existence, a wise person will take heed to this and give it special attention.
Mark 13:31 ESV
Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.
Psalm 119:89 ESV / 42 helpful votes
Forever, O Lord, your word is firmly fixed in the heavens.
John 1:1-14:31 ESV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Psalm 119:105 English Standard Version (ESV)
Your word is a lamp to my feet
and a light to my path.
there could be other explanations such as panspermia, or even guided evolution by aliens at some point in human history
Well slap me silly and call me a scruffy looking nerf herder!!
Ah yes, the midichlorian and ancient alien origins hypotheses.
https://www.starwars.com/news/so-what-the-heck-are-midi-chlorians
When people resort to creating a new mythology every few years to support their world view, what does that say about their world view?
God is an extraterrestrial of sorts so at least this hypothesis is consistent with evidence.
.just_dregalicious says
believes the bible verbatim
God’s word spoke the world into existence, a wise person will take heed to this and give it special attention.
Mark 13:31 ESV
Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.
Psalm 119:89 ESV / 42 helpful votes
Forever, O Lord, your word is firmly fixed in the heavens.
John 1:1-14:31 ESV
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Psalm 119:105 English Standard Version (ESV)
Your word is a lamp to my feet
and a light to my path.
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Patrick
2020 Jun 20, 11:03am
Patrick
2020 Jun 20, 11:03am
PeopleUnited says
Read Ezekiel. Definitely sounds like aliens coming down on a rocket ship and some kind of lander thing rolling around.
ancient alien
Read Ezekiel. Definitely sounds like aliens coming down on a rocket ship and some kind of lander thing rolling around.
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Ceffer
2020 Jun 20, 11:18am
Ceffer
2020 Jun 20, 11:18am
It doesn't have to be aliens OR God. It could simply be an as yet undiscovered property of nature or physics that trends toward more rapidly evolving organized forms, perhaps jellies which are antennae to the universe.
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PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 20, 2:18pm
PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 20, 2:18pm
Patrick says
Good example. Definitely extraterrestrials. Sounds a lot like charabim or the seraphim guarding the throne of God. In chapter 2, God speaks to Zeke.
PeopleUnited saysancient alien
Read Ezekiel. Definitely sounds like aliens coming down on a rocket ship and some kind of lander thing rolling around.
Good example. Definitely extraterrestrials. Sounds a lot like charabim or the seraphim guarding the throne of God. In chapter 2, God speaks to Zeke.
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PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 20, 2:19pm
PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 20, 2:19pm
Ceffer says
It doesn't have to be aliens OR God. It could simply be an as yet undiscovered property of nature or physics that trends toward more rapidly evolving organized forms, perhaps jellies which are antennae to the universe.PeopleUnited says
When people resort to creating a new mythology every few years to support their world view, what does that say about their world view?
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Tenpoundbass
2020 Jun 20, 5:49pm
Tenpoundbass
2020 Jun 20, 5:49pm
Ceffer says
Ooh Blob and Ghostly Aliens, I always liked those in Star Trek, because it took Theremin musak to sell it.
Kind of the way Steven Spielberg always sold natural phenomena with a fog machine and blue light.
You can't create that kind of campy cheesy genuineness in special effects using 3D animation.
It doesn't have to be aliens OR God. It could simply be an as yet undiscovered property of nature or physics that trends toward more rapidly evolving organized forms, perhaps jellies which are antennae to the universe.
Ooh Blob and Ghostly Aliens, I always liked those in Star Trek, because it took Theremin musak to sell it.
Kind of the way Steven Spielberg always sold natural phenomena with a fog machine and blue light.
You can't create that kind of campy cheesy genuineness in special effects using 3D animation.
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PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 21, 5:38am
PeopleUnited
2020 Jun 21, 5:38am
Star Trek predicted iPads, flip phones, and computerized voice recording, and you are right about using musak to sell the supernatural, it works! For the good of the body...
www.youtube.com/embed/nZMuBIJxmnA
https://youtu.be/1AkWWYtCjpo
https://youtu.be/ILL9L4bc6yQ
Good times, but alas it is merely a distraction from the reality that we are living in the last days.
2 Timothy 3 New Life Version (NLV)
1 You must understand that in the last days there will come times of much trouble. 2 People will love themselves and money. They will have pride and tell of all the things they have done. They will speak against God. Children and young people will not obey their parents. People will not be thankful and they will not be holy. 3 They will not love each other. No one can get along with them. They will tell lies about others. They will not be able to keep from doing things they know they should not do. They will be wild and want to beat and hurt those who are good. 4 They will not stay true to their friends. They will act without thinking. They will think too much of themselves. They will love fun instead of loving God.
www.youtube.com/embed/nZMuBIJxmnA
https://youtu.be/1AkWWYtCjpo
https://youtu.be/ILL9L4bc6yQ
Good times, but alas it is merely a distraction from the reality that we are living in the last days.
2 Timothy 3 New Life Version (NLV)
1 You must understand that in the last days there will come times of much trouble. 2 People will love themselves and money. They will have pride and tell of all the things they have done. They will speak against God. Children and young people will not obey their parents. People will not be thankful and they will not be holy. 3 They will not love each other. No one can get along with them. They will tell lies about others. They will not be able to keep from doing things they know they should not do. They will be wild and want to beat and hurt those who are good. 4 They will not stay true to their friends. They will act without thinking. They will think too much of themselves. They will love fun instead of loving God.
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