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socal2 says

I saw the movie yesterday.

No spoilers.

I really enjoyed it and think It is easily the best of the new movies and prequels. It fixes alot of Rian Johnson's mess and the overall story arc makes sense and was satisfying to me. There was no overtly feminist or SJW shit that I could tell (geesh - low bar!). It was a really fun and fast moving movie. They could have made it into 2 movies.

Is it true they had homosexual scene at the end with women kissing?

Ok, opening weekend is over and it's grossed some ~$376M worldwide.

In other words, it's not a flop and Kathleen Kennedy gets to keep her job.

FortWayneIndiana says

Is it true they had homosexual scene at the end with women kissing?

Yes. It was literally a flash though. Probably under a second and I could not make out who it was.

Saw it yesterday with my boys and that was the one take away where I was like WTF with regard to FW's quote above. That said, Star Wars has always been glorified and the movies are average at best. This one is the same. You'll be entertained and if you want to find the negatives that suite your beliefs you might be able to find them. I didn't notice overtly SJW type stuff as socal2 mentions. Solid, entertaining movie to burn time over xmas break if you have it.

I'll have to watch it again in the comfort of my own home to get a final ruling on it. Anyone here have a home theater? Was looking into upgrading the sound to Atmos, wasn't sure if it was worth it. I hate public theaters and have only been to one or two Atmos theaters. So don't have much experience with it. Was looking for a 5.2.4 setup if anyone has something similar or any other suggestions.

I saw it and it was the best one of this trilogy for what its worth. Rotten tomatoes critic vs user review just show how most critics are liberals.

Ok, as of this weekend, 'Rise of Skywalker' is almost at ~$600M globally and it's not petering out, if you look at this chart ...

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Star-Wars-The-Rise-of-Skywalker-(2019)#tab=box-office




For all intensive purpose, this film is a hit and will secure Kathleen Kennedy's spot at the helm.

It’s almost like the film opened modestly with a lot of fans on the fence about seeing it. Then, after reports that JJ Abrams fixed it and the SJW stuff is gone, the fans are finally getting around to seeing it.

I just don't want to be preached at or manipulated if I'm paying to see a movie.

Paying should mean that I'm the customer, not merely another target for indoctrination.

Hollywood won't stop with this kind of crap until people refuse to pay.

Patrick says

Hollywood won't stop with this kind of crap until people refuse to pay.

Pat, it's too late. Somehow, someway, ppl bought into the return of Palpatine and a completely unbelievable story line, after the fiasco which was 'The Last Jedi'.

I've gotten enough spoiler info to reconstruct the entire 'Rise of Skywalker' w/o giving Kathleen Kennedy a penny. The story is retarded and basically, tosses the closure of 'Return of the Jedi' into the gutter forever, making all of the prior Star War movies, meaningless.

Rin says

Patrick says

Hollywood won't stop with this kind of crap until people refuse to pay.

Pat, it's too late. Somehow, someway, ppl bought into the return of Palpatine and a completely unbelievable story line, after the fiasco which was 'The Last Jedi'.

I've gotten enough spoiler info to reconstruct the entire 'Rise of Skywalker' w/o giving Kathleen Kennedy a penny. The story is retarded and basically, tosses the closure of 'Return of the Jedi' into the gutter forever, making all of the prior Star War movies, meaningless.

I don't know, I'm sure I'll get pushback. You guys are acting like McDonalds is a Michelin top rated restaurant with the Star Wars franchise. I look at as entertainment and frankly entertainment for children and teens. Basically a quick meal at McDonalds to fill them up. I was never expecting Alinea from it for me, basically a top end restaurant.

The over analyzing the storyline is getting nauseating too. It's science fiction. The original movies are as ridiculous if not more than these new ones or the other reboot movies. If you want to look for it, there's as much SJW bullshit in the originals as there is now. There are PLENTY of other movies that are far worse with regards to the SJW agenda yet people are so focused on these new ones.

Not saying you have to enjoy it or even watch it, but some of the reasons for boycotting it are retarded. Disney bought a franchise that was geared towards boys. They have shareholders. Even if they lose 20% of men and boys, they'll potentially gain that with girls/women and create other fans that will watch more feminine movies or series related to Star Wars.

If one thinks they're smarter than Disney execs, then go apply... nothing is stopping you since we're all running massive production companies here on patnet.

WookieMan says

Yes. It was literally a flash though. Probably under a second and I could not make out who it was.

Thanks, that helps a lot actually. I was afraid that it was prolonged or something like that. Wouldn't be able to take kids to that.

WookieMan says

If one thinks they're smarter than Disney execs

There are several things going on, sure, ppl need to make money. That's the world we live in.

And at the same time, there's also this aspect of culture. In terms of culture, what the original 'Star Wars: A New Hope' was, was the hero's journey for everyone interested in Sci-Fi/Fantasy who was born between let's say 1970 to 1980. Yes, it was a generational thing and many of us were inspired by those films as a result.

I probably would have studied accounting, instead of applied chemistry, if it weren't for 'Star Wars'. And yes, you wouldn't know about me today, if that were to have happened.

I would have been a cynic, from birth, thinking that money was the only thing which mattered, versus adventuring into the stars and developing the sciences for humanity.

Sure, today, I know that those were lies and that we're run by shithead corporate cronies and garbage CEOs/CFOs/COOs/CIOs, etc, but if I thought that way as a kid, what would make me different from let's say a serial killer who cares nothing for anyone at all?

You see, that's the legacy of the original Star Wars. It made us better ppl. It made us want to strive for things, not just having them handed to us on a platform with nonsense like women are born perfect and that men are garbage w/o their guidance.

WookieMan says

The original movies are as ridiculous if not more than these new ones

You're clearly younger than several of us. I wouldn't say they are SJW just because they had minorities and a strong woman. That's fine. These latest films are full on SJW shit. I'm not going to go pay to see the new movie. I'll 'pick up' a copy and watch though now that the feedback here says they fixed some stuff so I don't have to pay to be indoctrinated into the Leftist bullshit.

Not paying until KK is fired.

Question: Where are the Males in millennial/gen-z movies? I don't mean pussies running around with dicks I mean manly men that boys can look up to as role models. I can't think of one. Where is a Han's solo or a Dirty Harry (or John Wayne for the older folks)?

Question: Where are the comedians? I don't mean women standup, that shit isn't funny. I mean real comedians that are millennial or gen-z?

just_dregalicious says

Question: Where are the Males in millennial/gen-z movies?

WookieMan says

There are PLENTY of other movies that are far worse with regards to the SJW agenda yet people are so focused on these new ones.

This is kind of my point. Everyone is so hung up on the purple haired cunt in The Last Jedi. They're focused on gravity in a sci-fi flick that has defied gravity since it's origination but somehow it's a problem now because of purple hair. Poe is an ass hole in all the movies and I love it. Even the black guy kills his woman sounding former storm trooper boss. Not saying you guys are wrong, I just don't see it being as egregious as many commenters here.

just_dregalicious says

I don't mean pussies running around with dicks I mean manly men that boys can look up to as role models.

Honest answer: DAD is your role model. Movies are for entertainment. If my kids look up to movies or sports stars, then I'm likely dead or had a brain injury.

And yes, I'm younger(ish) and have admitted so here (36). These movies have zero impact on my two boys lives, originals or reboot trilogies. Literally nothing besides entertainment. If you want to get upset about the female reboot of Ghostbusters, guess what, I'm on that train. These Star Wars movies are an absolute nothing burger in the attempt to feminize and neuter guys compared to what else is out there. They're looking to grab an extra 5-10% market share with women into the franchise.

I'll close with this. In Guam We Trust.

WookieMan says

Honest answer: DAD is your role model.

My dad was a jerk, so there goes that story.

And in effect, when Luke redeemed his own father at the end of 'Return of the Jedi' (1:29 to 2:00), believe it or not, it gave me hope as well.

www.youtube.com/embed/TNDwCsFzS8c

Unfortunately, that relationship never resolved itself, like it did for Luke.

WookieMan says

purple haired

Ms Lesbo didn't tell anyone of her plan and treated Poe like he was a common criminal when in fact, Poe was the only one, sticking his neck out for the so-called resistance, rebellion, or whatever that motley crew thought it was.

And yes, when her plan was laid out, it was as stupid of a plan as anyone with a pair of binoculars or even 20/20 vision, could see small vessels exiting to the nearby planet.

Seriously, was everyone on the 1st order's bridge near sighted?

WookieMan says

Honest answer: DAD

I'm sure you're a great Dad and your kids are lucky. I still think it's best for a culture to have multiple role models. If we had strong male role models like we used to I suspect this 3rd wave feminist crap would still just be fringe.

just_dregalicious says

I'm sure you're a great Dad and your kids are lucky. I still think it's best for a culture to have multiple role models. If we had strong male role models like we used to I suspect this 3rd wave feminist crap would still just be fringe.

Yes, because we have dysfunctional households (FYI, my own family) and single moms, all over the place.

With that, the "clan" influence is very anti-male and somehow, kids only have things like Star Wars or Star Trek to look up to and now, both of those franchises are SJW and anti-male at their respective cores.

Just yesterday, I was at a restaurant where all the ladies at an adjacent table were yapping while the silent guys were quietly playing with their smart phones. Seriously, that's where our society is going, men are being reduced to gamers and eunuchs.

Rin says

I was at a restaurant where all the ladies at an adjacent table were yapping

That would make me want to puke.

just_dregalicious says

Rin says

I was at a restaurant where all the ladies at an adjacent table were yapping

That would make me want to puke.

I was enjoying a dish of Arancini, so I didn't want to puke that out, so I did my best to ignore them.

Saw Rise of Skywalker the other day, LOVED IT! They stuck to the main story, no side-quests, and some pretty cool reveals about the dark side. And the ending was perfect, didn't try to replicate the Ewok village celebration, which was a great call.

Hollywood lives in a social bubble, lots of gay and feminist influences that keep pouring in, and eventually those left wing lobbying groups get their way.

As of today, 'Rise of Skywalker' has hit $815M globally.

Now that the holiday season is wrapping up, this movie has already done too well, to in any way or form, be considered a flop. It'll easily top the $1B mark and level off somewhere in that exalted zone between 'Dark Knight Rises' and 'The Avengers'.

In effect, this is the fourth 'Indiana Jones & the Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls', a stupid, idiotic film which still grossed $786M. Remarkable, considering what a joke that was against any of the films near 'Raiders of the Lost Ark'.

Haven’t seen rise of sky walker yet. It’s entirely due to the fetid turd that was the last Jedi.

However, The Mandalorian is amazing. Everything Star Wars is supposed to be. Interesting characters, cool space scenes, mysterious stories.

I hope disney learned it’s lesson about shoveling sjw garbage down our throats.

IJ4 was a disappointment compared to first 3.

Rin says

As of today, 'Rise of Skywalker' has hit $815M globally.

Now that the holiday season is wrapping up, this movie has already done too well, to in any way or form, be considered a flop. It'll easily top the $1B mark and level off somewhere in that exalted zone between 'Dark Knight Rises' and 'The Avengers'.

In effect, this is the fourth 'Indiana Jones & the Kingdom of the Crystal Skulls', a stupid, idiotic film which still grossed $786M. Remarkable, considering what a joke that was against any of the films near 'Raiders of the Lost Ark'.

Fortwaynemobile says

IJ4 was a disappointment compared to first 3.

But the fact that IJ4 made money, is the reason why they'll have more sequels, despite it adding nothing to the legend of Indiana Jones.

Ok, I was able to find a pirate server and got a chance to watch TROS, to one, corroborate the spoilers and two, not to pay Kathleen Kennedy Inc for that effort.

And here's my take ... while the story is preposterous and perhaps,completely infeasible (given the fact that now the Force can not only be used for psychic calls but also for the teleportation of small sized objects), along with a host of other stupid stuff, the movie did do something which TLJ completely failed at ... it didn't throw the guys under the bus.

Yes, in this story, Poe and Finn were both good leaders & heroes, and were even able to attract some good-looking lady friends (NO, not Rose, the chunky Asian) w/o the whole thing looking like a bunch of love sick teenagers, always pining after Daisy Ridley in some lame ass love triangles. Yes, the boys grew up even though I'm sure they didn't get laid until the movie was officially over.

So the men were handled well and this even includes the First Order's Hux, who was made to look like a complete loser in the first two movies. Here, he indicates that he's actually got some purpose and could not accept that the First Order could be run by a dickwad like Adam Driver.

And surprisingly, even Adam Driver wasn't Keanu Reeves redux in this movie, which was a breathe of fresh air.

So all and all, stupid story but not a complete SJW flop like 'Last Jedi'. It's basically an Independence Day -minus because like ID4, it was more comical than serious.

As long as one sees this movie as let's say 'Escape of LA', a parody (almost to the point of being farcical) of the far superior original, 'Escape from NY', then it's not unwatchable.

Ok, looks like my prediction is on target, here's the web url on the box office gross

https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/worldwide/all-movies/cumulative/all-time



It's going to pretty much be in that zone between 'Dark Knight Rises' and 'Avengers', as expected after a successful holiday week.

Sorry, but that's enough financial success for Kathleen Kennedy to spend the rest of her career at Lucasfilm's helm. Yes, I know, life sucks and then you die.

https://babylonbee.com/news/in-new-episode-the-mandalorian-has-to-protect-baby-yoda-from-being-ruined-by-rian-johnson

“ U.S.—In the latest episode of Disney+’s hit show The Mandalorian, Baby Yoda -- widely regarded as the greatest cultural contribution of the last one hundred years -- faces his greatest threat. And that threat: Rian Johnson, full of ideas.
I’ve got some great ideas for your kid there,” says an eager Rian Johnson as he approaches the Mandalorian and Baby Yoda on a backwater planet. “What if we find out he does have a name, and it’s ‘Glorp’? And what if we find out he’s been able to talk all this time, but he sounds like a surly cab driver? That will blow people away.”

The terse Mandalorian responds with, “No,” “That’s a horrible idea,” and “I’ll think about it” to all of the ideas while trying to lose Rian Johnson, who then attempts to steer the Mandalorian and Baby Yoda to a casino planet where he should have “lots of fun adventures.”

Eventually, an increasingly deranged Johnson corners the Mandalorian and suggests that maybe in one episode Baby Yoda could just be suddenly killed off with no resolution to who he was, since “the show isn’t really about Baby Yoda.” He also suggests giving the Mandalorian a plucky sidekick who could give a speech about how “bounty hunting is really about love.”

The show ends with the Mandalorian convincing Rian Johnson to instead work on his own property in a galaxy even longer ago and much farther away.

This episode is rated TV-MA for Star Wars fans for being the scariest thing ever aired.“

Face it Disney hasn't been Disney since Walt died.

I would put any Disney era full feature films up against any Family Animation made since then.
Not a single one could out do, Dumbo, Bambi, Snow White and the Seven Schmucks, Jungle Book ect..

Rumors: Disney and Lucasfilm Panicking, thinking about making Last Trilogy non-Canonical to save Franchise while Hamill still alive.

Are we finally seeing financial concerns trump Wokeness in Hollywood?

www.youtube.com/embed/9H91ZTzqVI4

That would be a good first step. Next step would be the firing of Kathleen Kennedy and every one of her producers and toadies.
I don’t know if they can produce better content and stories in the future, but they have to begin with jettisoning the detritus of SJW Woke Wars from the canon.

just_dregalicious says

If we had strong male role models like we used to I suspect this 3rd wave feminist crap would still just be fringe.

Absolutely.

What we have is a failure of American men to actually be men.

Most of it is attitude. Men should literally be strong and take no shit from women.

There are three good external things men can do to change their internal lives:

1. grow a beard if at all possible
2. lift weights daily
3. own a gun

I'm serious. Each one of those works to increase the traditional masculine attitude that we badly need right now, though there are many others.

Disney paid a freakin' fortune for Lucasfilm.

George Lucas thought his long-term employee who he raised up from the typing pool will preserve his legacy; instead, she made it all about herself and WOMYN.

The only thing saving Kennedy is the fact she's a woman.

www.youtube.com/embed/26-VzfBZg1w

It's hard to give cunt a bad name, but she's succeeded.

Patrick says

1. grow a beard if at all possible
2. lift weights daily
3. own a gun

I'm serious. Each one of those works to increase the traditional masculine attitude that we badly need right now, though there are many others.

Aside from the beard and no 3, since I live in Massachusetts, I think I'm the only guy on PatNet who's completely rejected women, having nothing to do with them outside of hoeing.

Looks like Kennedy is being softly dropped from Lucasfilm. Apparently, she is going to start her own Woke Female Film Company.

Jon Favreau might be named an interim head, since the Mandalorian was successful (DISCLOSURE: I haven't seen any Star Wars since 1-3, which also sucked, but at least it sucked in a normal way and not in a woke way)

www.youtube.com/embed/4i_hhsrPVDs

Sigh*** No more Strap On Light Sabers.

Rin says

So let's stop with the Disney bashing.

They re-hired James Gunn.

They also hired Victor Salva after his child rape conviction. His rape victim protested the opening of Powder.

Fuck Dizzney.