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WookieMan
2019 Dec 15, 9:03am
WookieMan
2019 Dec 15, 9:03am
Onvacation says
That’s why I insist on telling people to watch it (at least as much as you can) without viewing the sound bite clips from ANY media.
Dems look like a deer about to be smashed by a semi if you watch it. A few have a little passion, but most are just going through the motions it seems. He’s been put up to it, but all Nadler does is keep repeating the same line he’s been fed. You can tell he doesn’t believe it. And yes, republicans are doing the same thing, they just show more conviction and belief in what they’re saying. And that’s why support for impeachment keeps dropping.
I have been watching the impeachment. The democrats are looking old, weary, and out of touch with reality.
That’s why I insist on telling people to watch it (at least as much as you can) without viewing the sound bite clips from ANY media.
Dems look like a deer about to be smashed by a semi if you watch it. A few have a little passion, but most are just going through the motions it seems. He’s been put up to it, but all Nadler does is keep repeating the same line he’s been fed. You can tell he doesn’t believe it. And yes, republicans are doing the same thing, they just show more conviction and belief in what they’re saying. And that’s why support for impeachment keeps dropping.
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Shaman
2019 Dec 15, 6:20pm
Shaman
2019 Dec 15, 6:20pm
More supporting evidence. Now a group of five Democrats are putting their front man forward to declare they don’t support impeachment. Others are waffling. Pelosi is trying to bribe them with PAC money and legislation money for their districts. But the New Democrats in Trump supporting districts HAVE to know that voters will never forgive them for trying to oust their choice for President over nothing at all.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/15/buying-impeachment-nancy-pelosi-aligned-pac-spends-millions-help-swing-district-democrats/
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/15/buying-impeachment-nancy-pelosi-aligned-pac-spends-millions-help-swing-district-democrats/
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Chiromancer
2019 Dec 16, 11:05pm
So you have two Dems so far, looks certainTrump is going to be impeached. My prediction stands maybe 5 Dem vote present or no and could be as few as 2
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WookieMan
2019 Dec 17, 5:17am
WookieMan
2019 Dec 17, 5:17am
Chiromancer says
Just fucking vote on it already. To the average American that doesn't know the process, this makes the Democrats look foolish. Like they're delaying. I personally think they are. Behind closed doors I'd guess there are more on the fence than is publicly known. They may not have the votes. Work on a weekend. Do whatever to get it done if you actually believe in it. Not seeing that.
I'm in a purple district in the IL suburbs of Chicago. I can tell you that impeachment is not popular here. Not even from the biggest Trump haters (my two liberal arts college professor neighbors). The is the closest information I'll give here about where I live, but my house rep. Lauren Underwood will not get reelected if she votes for impeachment. I'd bet money on it.
So you have two Dems so far, looks certainTrump is going to be impeached. My prediction stands maybe 5 Dem vote present or no and could be as few as 2
Just fucking vote on it already. To the average American that doesn't know the process, this makes the Democrats look foolish. Like they're delaying. I personally think they are. Behind closed doors I'd guess there are more on the fence than is publicly known. They may not have the votes. Work on a weekend. Do whatever to get it done if you actually believe in it. Not seeing that.
I'm in a purple district in the IL suburbs of Chicago. I can tell you that impeachment is not popular here. Not even from the biggest Trump haters (my two liberal arts college professor neighbors). The is the closest information I'll give here about where I live, but my house rep. Lauren Underwood will not get reelected if she votes for impeachment. I'd bet money on it.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 17, 7:05am
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 17, 7:05am
Chiromancer says
Trump is definitely not going to be impeached. I hope they drag out the impeachment trial and call every witness possible on the Bidens and anything that remotely strikes their fancy using their Senate Impeachment quasitrial powers.
So you have two Dems so far, looks certainTrump is going to be impeached. My prediction stands maybe 5 Dem vote present or no and could be as few as 2
Trump is definitely not going to be impeached. I hope they drag out the impeachment trial and call every witness possible on the Bidens and anything that remotely strikes their fancy using their Senate Impeachment quasitrial powers.
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Patrick
2019 Dec 17, 7:25am
Patrick
2019 Dec 17, 7:25am
WookieMan says
@WookieMan which suburb? I'm from Chicago Ridge (southwest) then later lived in Park Ridge (northwest).
I'm in a purple district in the IL suburbs of Chicago.
@WookieMan which suburb? I'm from Chicago Ridge (southwest) then later lived in Park Ridge (northwest).
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WookieMan
2019 Dec 17, 7:27am
WookieMan
2019 Dec 17, 7:27am
Lol. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/12/impeachment-warranted-also-bad-idea/603616/
Even the Atlantic is hinting impeachment might not be a good idea. Giving a back door excuse that "maybe impeachment isn't good for the country." No shit. The articles and stories are shifting if you're paying attention. I think they're trying to figure out who the scapegoat is going to be for not impeaching. Given her age, I think they are going to bus toss Pelosi. Just a guess.
Even the Atlantic is hinting impeachment might not be a good idea. Giving a back door excuse that "maybe impeachment isn't good for the country." No shit. The articles and stories are shifting if you're paying attention. I think they're trying to figure out who the scapegoat is going to be for not impeaching. Given her age, I think they are going to bus toss Pelosi. Just a guess.
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WookieMan
2019 Dec 17, 8:11am
WookieMan
2019 Dec 17, 8:11am
Patrick says
I'll keep it to Lauren Underwood's district and that I'm west of Chicago (not northwest or southwest of Chicago). My town is too small and someone savvy enough could probably dox me here if they were inclined to based on my previous comments. Since it's a big enough city, all I'll say is I was born in Aurora, IL (Party on!)
I know where both "Ridges" are, lol, funny you lived in two towns with that in it. Haven't spend much time in either though. 1/3 of my life has been in Chicago itself (Pilsen and Taylor St area) and the other 2/3 far West suburban living. 1/2 my adult life though has been split between the two.
WookieMan saysI'm in a purple district in the IL suburbs of Chicago.
@WookieMan which suburb? I'm from Chicago Ridge (southwest) then later lived in Park Ridge (northwest).
I'll keep it to Lauren Underwood's district and that I'm west of Chicago (not northwest or southwest of Chicago). My town is too small and someone savvy enough could probably dox me here if they were inclined to based on my previous comments. Since it's a big enough city, all I'll say is I was born in Aurora, IL (Party on!)
I know where both "Ridges" are, lol, funny you lived in two towns with that in it. Haven't spend much time in either though. 1/3 of my life has been in Chicago itself (Pilsen and Taylor St area) and the other 2/3 far West suburban living. 1/2 my adult life though has been split between the two.
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Chiromancer
2019 Dec 17, 8:41am
NoCoupForYou says
No he is going to be impeached, he very likely wont be convicted and removed by the Senate.
Trump is definitely not going to be impeached.
No he is going to be impeached, he very likely wont be convicted and removed by the Senate.
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WookieMan
2019 Dec 17, 8:53am
WookieMan
2019 Dec 17, 8:53am
Chiromancer says
Let's see the vote. My house rep will not get reelected if she votes yes to impeachment. This isn't as cut and dry as you'd like to think. They know they're not going to remove Trump from office. There are more on the fence then you think or is being broadcasted.
No he is going to be impeached
Let's see the vote. My house rep will not get reelected if she votes yes to impeachment. This isn't as cut and dry as you'd like to think. They know they're not going to remove Trump from office. There are more on the fence then you think or is being broadcasted.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 17, 8:53am
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 17, 8:53am
He's going to testify under oath. It's going to be magic.
After his testimony scorches the Democrats, empowered to reveal all kinds of shit, they'll do the usual Left switcheroo and say "How DARE he testify under oath! This is bad for national security" - a complete 180 from their current stance that he is hiding malfeasance and truth must be brought to light. Remember that an Oikophobes purpose is to destroy the native and familiar, not to push any alleged high principles, but to get revenge for being frumpy and high school teasing.
Trump wants the impeachment trial. I think he wants to testify publicly under oath. It'll be fun.
After his testimony scorches the Democrats, empowered to reveal all kinds of shit, they'll do the usual Left switcheroo and say "How DARE he testify under oath! This is bad for national security" - a complete 180 from their current stance that he is hiding malfeasance and truth must be brought to light. Remember that an Oikophobes purpose is to destroy the native and familiar, not to push any alleged high principles, but to get revenge for being frumpy and high school teasing.
Trump wants the impeachment trial. I think he wants to testify publicly under oath. It'll be fun.
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RC2006
2019 Dec 17, 9:08am
RC2006
2019 Dec 17, 9:08am
Tim Aurora says
I think he would ignore questions and ramble on about whatever pops into his head.
NoCoupForYou says
Trump wants the impeachment trial. I think he wants to testify publicly under oath. It'll be fun.
I doubt that Trump will ever testify. He is unable to speak truth ( but may qualify every sentence with I do not remember but .. )
I think he would ignore questions and ramble on about whatever pops into his head.
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Shaman
2019 Dec 17, 9:49am
Shaman
2019 Dec 17, 9:49am
Tomorrow we will see! I kind of hope that I’m wrong and the vote passes to impeach him. It will make for high fucking drama and a national SPOTLIGHT on this whole corrupt process. People who have been steadfastly ignoring this bullshit will have to take notice and that will give the Republicans their greatest chance in a generation to show the Democrats up for the lying scumbags that they truly are.
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WookieMan
2019 Dec 17, 10:03am
WookieMan
2019 Dec 17, 10:03am
Lol. Just tuned into the Rules Committee. Nadler isn't there..... This is falling apart as we sit here. Wow.
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Bd6r
2019 Dec 17, 10:07am
Bd6r
2019 Dec 17, 10:07am
WookieMan says
Just like it all fell apart last 2 times. But do not worry, they will come up with something else. Perhaps Mongolian Collusion, Babylonian Corruption Ring, or Olmec Bribe Scandal. All while anything real will not be looked at.
This is falling apart as we sit here
Just like it all fell apart last 2 times. But do not worry, they will come up with something else. Perhaps Mongolian Collusion, Babylonian Corruption Ring, or Olmec Bribe Scandal. All while anything real will not be looked at.
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RC2006
2019 Dec 17, 10:11am
RC2006
2019 Dec 17, 10:11am
I'm betting Dianne Feinstein accuses Trump of employing Chinese spies next.
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WookieMan
2019 Dec 17, 10:30am
WookieMan
2019 Dec 17, 10:30am
HEYYOU says
Nadler doesn't show. They send Jamie Raskin, who looks like he just fell into a tub of chapstick. Sorry, you choose a life of public service, family emergencies don't matter when you're trying to impeach the leader of the US. Bad look.
Predictions make one look like a fool.
Fools aren't time travelers that know what happens in the future.
Nadler doesn't show. They send Jamie Raskin, who looks like he just fell into a tub of chapstick. Sorry, you choose a life of public service, family emergencies don't matter when you're trying to impeach the leader of the US. Bad look.
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Chiromancer
2019 Dec 17, 2:30pm
NoCoupForYou says
On that I agree it will be a blast if he testifies. He would be foolish to testify and I am sure his lawyers will advise against it as he will almost certainly purger himself, biggly.
think he wants to testify publicly under oath. It'll be fun.
On that I agree it will be a blast if he testifies. He would be foolish to testify and I am sure his lawyers will advise against it as he will almost certainly purger himself, biggly.
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WookieMan
2019 Dec 18, 8:11am
WookieMan
2019 Dec 18, 8:11am
WTF did Joe Kennedy just do??? Holy shit. This guy got elected (because of name....)
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Bd6r
2019 Dec 18, 8:35am
Bd6r
2019 Dec 18, 8:35am
WookieMan says
You are a very tolerant man. I switched TV off 30 seconds after starting to watch this...it was unbelievably painful stupidity.
WTF did Joe Kennedy just do??? Holy shit. This guy got elected (because of name....)
You are a very tolerant man. I switched TV off 30 seconds after starting to watch this...it was unbelievably painful stupidity.
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WookieMan
2019 Dec 18, 9:21am
WookieMan
2019 Dec 18, 9:21am
rd6B says
I agree, it was awful. I'll beat this horse to death though. Watching it matters. This is both sides of the aisle. These are our most directly representatives and it's an utter joke. It's pitiful on so many levels.
WookieMan saysWTF did Joe Kennedy just do??? Holy shit. This guy got elected (because of name....)
You are a very tolerant man. I switched TV off 30 seconds after starting to watch this...it was unbelievably painful stupidity.
I agree, it was awful. I'll beat this horse to death though. Watching it matters. This is both sides of the aisle. These are our most directly representatives and it's an utter joke. It's pitiful on so many levels.
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WookieMan
2019 Dec 18, 9:32am
WookieMan
2019 Dec 18, 9:32am
WTF? Nadler is now there? Missed the rules committee for a family emergency yesterday? They're not even hiding how much they know this is bull shit. Lefties... explain?
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Shaman
2019 Dec 18, 10:38am
Shaman
2019 Dec 18, 10:38am
Ok, I’m still sticking by my prediction, but here’s an even trickier possibility. The articles are bullshit, the obstruction charge is total bullshit especially since it’s being reviewed by the Supreme Court which in itself validates Trump’s actions. The Abuse of Power article isn’t referenced in the Constitution as a reason for impeachment. So an argument could easily be made that it’s unconstitutional on its face!
Since the Supreme Court Chief Justice will preside over the trial, an attorney or counsel for Trump’s side could make a motion to dismiss based on the charges being unconstitutional, and Roberts could confirm (with good conscience) that this is indeed so, and the trial is skipped altogether. Which both sides want, especially Pelosi’s side. They get the “impeachment” they wanted without a costly trial which they didn’t want.
It would go a long way towards explaining why they went ahead with impeachment on total bullshit articles.
Since the Supreme Court Chief Justice will preside over the trial, an attorney or counsel for Trump’s side could make a motion to dismiss based on the charges being unconstitutional, and Roberts could confirm (with good conscience) that this is indeed so, and the trial is skipped altogether. Which both sides want, especially Pelosi’s side. They get the “impeachment” they wanted without a costly trial which they didn’t want.
It would go a long way towards explaining why they went ahead with impeachment on total bullshit articles.
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Shaman
2019 Dec 18, 6:42pm
Shaman
2019 Dec 18, 6:42pm
So... I was wrong! Democrats are crazier than I ever had thought! They want the Presidency and know they haven’t a prayer vs. Trump at present so they’re gambling that tarring him with the impeachment brush will do the trick and make people hate him enough to pull the lever for their guy or gal.
They don’t care if they lose the House. They weren’t doing anything with it anyway. To get their progressive agenda done requires the Supreme Court and that requires the President to appoint activist Liberal justices! So they’re going for broke, impeaching Trump over fucking nothing just to smear him.
It’s disgraceful and it’s going to lead to their ultimate demise as a party.
Honestly, I couldn’t be happier! They’ve signed and sealed their own execution order. It’s all done except for the sky screaming.
They don’t care if they lose the House. They weren’t doing anything with it anyway. To get their progressive agenda done requires the Supreme Court and that requires the President to appoint activist Liberal justices! So they’re going for broke, impeaching Trump over fucking nothing just to smear him.
It’s disgraceful and it’s going to lead to their ultimate demise as a party.
Honestly, I couldn’t be happier! They’ve signed and sealed their own execution order. It’s all done except for the sky screaming.
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2019 Dec 18, 9:13pm
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2019 Dec 18, 9:13pm
Tim Aurora says
You are very out of touch if you think there’s Republicans out there in any appreciable numbers that don’t support President Trump.
Shaman saysHonestly, I couldn’t be happier! They’ve signed and sealed their own execution order. It’s all done except for the sky screaming.
I will wait till the next election and I predict that Trump and the Republicans will be defeated. Conscientious Republicans will vote against this morphed Trump party for the sake of democracy. Hopefully the next president can reunite the US.
You are very out of touch if you think there’s Republicans out there in any appreciable numbers that don’t support President Trump.
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Ceffer
2019 Dec 18, 10:38pm
Ceffer
2019 Dec 18, 10:38pm
So. Congress is a rigged kangaroo court, with the Dems going from shameless to disgraceful. It's clear from their body language they are being commanded from their on-high handlers to proceed. They don't believe anything they are saying. They've turned it from a legislative body to a transparent whorehouse.
Nothing to see here, move on.
Nothing to see here, move on.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 18, 10:38pm
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Dec 18, 10:38pm
Tim Aurora says
I hope America takes the irresponsible Democrats out to the woodshed just like Corbyn's Labour got beaten. Kept from a whiff of power for a generation.
Not the most politically aware democrat can actually tell me specifically what the President is being impeached for.
"Abuse of Power"
"What specific abuse did he commit?"
"He specifically abused his powers, Orange Man Very Bad, Very abusive of his powers."
Supposedly, it was some kind of bribe but that's not mentioned in the articles at all.
The Dems will behave just as Labour UK is behaving now - total denial, blame the public, act flabbergasted their policies and attitude was firmly rejected. They might, like some Momentum Labourites, insist the Media wasn't biased enough for them.
I will wait till the next election and I predict that Trump and the Republicans will be defeated. Conscientious Republicans will vote against this morphed Trump party for the sake of democracy. Hopefully the next president can reunite the US.
I hope America takes the irresponsible Democrats out to the woodshed just like Corbyn's Labour got beaten. Kept from a whiff of power for a generation.
Not the most politically aware democrat can actually tell me specifically what the President is being impeached for.
"Abuse of Power"
"What specific abuse did he commit?"
"He specifically abused his powers, Orange Man Very Bad, Very abusive of his powers."
Supposedly, it was some kind of bribe but that's not mentioned in the articles at all.
The Dems will behave just as Labour UK is behaving now - total denial, blame the public, act flabbergasted their policies and attitude was firmly rejected. They might, like some Momentum Labourites, insist the Media wasn't biased enough for them.
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Chiromancer
2019 Dec 18, 10:47pm
Shaman says
I was right, not that it required clairvoyance just get out of the right wing echo chamber once in a while it might help predictions.
.. I was wrong!
I was right, not that it required clairvoyance just get out of the right wing echo chamber once in a while it might help predictions.
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Al_Sharpton_for_President
2019 Dec 19, 3:46am
Al_Sharpton_for_President
2019 Dec 19, 3:46am
Trump did the unforgivable. He went after a very vulnerable Democrat standard bearer, and attempted to shine a light in an area all had agreed was off limits - the obvious corruption of our "leaders." How do the Dems explain Hunter Biden's mysterious talents that led to such a large payout? Or Pelosi's incredible wealth? Or Epstein's connected friends? It's a warning shot from the PTB. Remember, senators from both parties voted to confirm criminal bankster Hank Paulson. That is not an accident.
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Onvacation
2019 Dec 19, 5:47am
Onvacation
2019 Dec 19, 5:47am
Chiromancer says
Nobody, here or in Congress, can state the high crime or misdemeanor our president has committed because he is only guilty of trying to make America great. His opponents got nothing but hate.
I was right, not that it required clairvoyance just get out of the right wing echo chamber once in a while it might help predictions.
Nobody, here or in Congress, can state the high crime or misdemeanor our president has committed because he is only guilty of trying to make America great. His opponents got nothing but hate.
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2019 Dec 19, 5:57am
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2019 Dec 19, 5:57am
willywonka says
It’s a desperation move...a Hail Mary.... to prevent Republican presidents 12 more years, which would lead to a 7-2 conservative majority on the SCOTUS after Ginsberg and Breyer kick the bucket.
That would likely lead to decades with a conservative majority.
Trump did the unforgivable. He went after a very vulnerable Democrat standard bearer, and attempted to shine a light in an area all had agreed was off limits - the obvious corruption of our "leaders." How do the Dems explain Hunter Biden's mysterious talents that led to such a large payout? Or Pelosi's incredible wealth? Or Epstein's connected friends? It's a warning shot from the PTB. Remember, senators from both parties voted to confirm criminal bankster Hank Paulson. That is not an accident.
It’s a desperation move...a Hail Mary.... to prevent Republican presidents 12 more years, which would lead to a 7-2 conservative majority on the SCOTUS after Ginsberg and Breyer kick the bucket.
That would likely lead to decades with a conservative majority.
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WookieMan
2019 Dec 19, 6:01am
WookieMan
2019 Dec 19, 6:01am
Chiromancer says
It's not an echo chamber unless you only listen to Fox, which I don't at all. This will likely be the demise of Democrats as a US political party. I think it's unfortunate as I think competition to get the best people makes our government better. I would not be surprised at all to see them run out of money or literally go bankrupt. Yesterday was a sad day, and not for the reasons most people think.
Oh well. I guess we can at least enjoy the coming circus that won't involve the POTUS being removed and then getting another term. Warren and Sanders are fucked now too and any other Senator running. I hope to god this wasn't to push Biden through to get the nomination as well. Jesus, as I keep thinking of game plans for Dems, they all result in failure. ALL of them.
Shaman says.. I was wrong!
I was right, not that it required clairvoyance just get out of the right wing echo chamber once in a while it might help predictions.
It's not an echo chamber unless you only listen to Fox, which I don't at all. This will likely be the demise of Democrats as a US political party. I think it's unfortunate as I think competition to get the best people makes our government better. I would not be surprised at all to see them run out of money or literally go bankrupt. Yesterday was a sad day, and not for the reasons most people think.
Oh well. I guess we can at least enjoy the coming circus that won't involve the POTUS being removed and then getting another term. Warren and Sanders are fucked now too and any other Senator running. I hope to god this wasn't to push Biden through to get the nomination as well. Jesus, as I keep thinking of game plans for Dems, they all result in failure. ALL of them.
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ignoreme
2019 Dec 19, 6:25am
I think we are giving way to much credit to the Democrats here. This isn’t some grand scheme to win back the presidency.
The only thing this vote did was protect Pelosi and other Democrats in liberal districts from being primaried. They’ve been using TDS to whip up their base for the last 4 years and now they get to reap what they sowed. After 2018, impeachment was inevitable or Nancy and Chuck would have been out.
Now this will go to the Senate the following will happen:
1. Trump will be acquitted.
2. There will be either no trial or a very short trial.
3. Democrats will lose the house in 2020
4. Trump will remain president.
There is literally no good news for Democrats in this vote other then Nancy gets to stay Democrat minority leader and gets to keep getting paid by whoever is paying her.
The only thing this vote did was protect Pelosi and other Democrats in liberal districts from being primaried. They’ve been using TDS to whip up their base for the last 4 years and now they get to reap what they sowed. After 2018, impeachment was inevitable or Nancy and Chuck would have been out.
Now this will go to the Senate the following will happen:
1. Trump will be acquitted.
2. There will be either no trial or a very short trial.
3. Democrats will lose the house in 2020
4. Trump will remain president.
There is literally no good news for Democrats in this vote other then Nancy gets to stay Democrat minority leader and gets to keep getting paid by whoever is paying her.
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ignoreme
2019 Dec 19, 6:31am
WookieMan says
I’m fairly sure there won’t be a long trial in the Senate. It fucks the Democrat top tier candidates too much. Also it fucks Biden cause then we get to see Hunter plead the 5th.
If Democrats are doing anything clever it’s that they sent such crappy articles that Roberts will throw them out on day 1 and that’s probably intentional.
Warren and Sanders are fucked now too and any other Senator running. I hope to god this wasn't to push Biden through to get the nomination as well.
I’m fairly sure there won’t be a long trial in the Senate. It fucks the Democrat top tier candidates too much. Also it fucks Biden cause then we get to see Hunter plead the 5th.
If Democrats are doing anything clever it’s that they sent such crappy articles that Roberts will throw them out on day 1 and that’s probably intentional.
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WookieMan
2019 Dec 19, 7:10am
WookieMan
2019 Dec 19, 7:10am
ignoreme says
We'll see. I think Trump wants a long Senate process. I know most Republicans don't and probably for their own reasons. Everyone has been fucking around on the side and this could open a can of worms for a lot of people. Trump doesn't believe there's a legitimate candidate that can beat him and unfortunately he's probably correct. He knows there's not enough proof or support to remove him. Whether the Dems know it or not, Trump just stuck the knife in their back and I think he wants to twist it and make it more agonizing.
There's also the cash situation: https://www.opensecrets.org/parties/ Republicans literally have $100M more cash on hand and little to no debt. Trump won 2016 with substantially less cash compared to the DNC and Hillary. If his strategy is the same AND he has the cash in swing states, 2020 is going to be embarrassing. All this impeachment shit is food for his base and will likely turn a lot of independents towards him as the economy is kicking ass and taking names. Hell, they might not have to spend that much and can build a huge war chest of cash for future elections for purple districts. This is why I think the Democratic Party could literally crumble and go bankrupt.
WookieMan saysWarren and Sanders are fucked now too and any other Senator running. I hope to god this wasn't to push Biden through to get the nomination as well.
I’m fairly sure there won’t be a long trial in the Senate. It fucks the Democrat top tier candidates too much. Also it fucks Biden cause then we get to see Hunter plead the 5th.
If Democrats are doing anything clever it’s that they sent such crappy articles that Roberts will throw them out on day 1 and that’s probably intentional.
We'll see. I think Trump wants a long Senate process. I know most Republicans don't and probably for their own reasons. Everyone has been fucking around on the side and this could open a can of worms for a lot of people. Trump doesn't believe there's a legitimate candidate that can beat him and unfortunately he's probably correct. He knows there's not enough proof or support to remove him. Whether the Dems know it or not, Trump just stuck the knife in their back and I think he wants to twist it and make it more agonizing.
There's also the cash situation: https://www.opensecrets.org/parties/ Republicans literally have $100M more cash on hand and little to no debt. Trump won 2016 with substantially less cash compared to the DNC and Hillary. If his strategy is the same AND he has the cash in swing states, 2020 is going to be embarrassing. All this impeachment shit is food for his base and will likely turn a lot of independents towards him as the economy is kicking ass and taking names. Hell, they might not have to spend that much and can build a huge war chest of cash for future elections for purple districts. This is why I think the Democratic Party could literally crumble and go bankrupt.
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