Please log in to view images

« prev   random   next »

7
2

Impeachment Prediction 11/24/19

By Shaman follow Shaman   2019 Nov 24, 9:06am 1,879 views   182 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


There will be a vote to impeach but a lot of Democrats will be voting “present” and the vote will fail. This absolves leftist Democrats who can say “we did our duty but these blue dog Democrats wouldn’t get on board!” And the Democrats with competitive districts can say “we voted based on the evidence not partisan concerns,” and everyone’s political positions are preserved.

Trump still gets to crow though

« First    « Previous    Comments 143 - 182 of 182    Last »

143   ignoreme   ignore (0)   2019 Dec 19, 7:44am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
I think Trump wants a long Senate process. I know most Republicans don't and probably for their own reasons.


I agree but he won’t get it. Republican and Democrat swamp don’t want a trial. The only way there is a trial is if they figure out some way via senate rules to not let Trump call witnesses. I don’t see why Republicans would agree to that even if they are swamp.

No, Nancy delivered on impeachment. Mission accomplished. Live to fight another day. Shaman miscalculated that Democrat leadership wouldn’t be willing to throw their party under the bus to keep personal power. He doesn’t understand these are sociopaths.
144   rd6B   ignore (1)   2019 Dec 19, 8:20am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Gabbard voted "present" - I am not disappointed with her!
145   Shaman   ignore (2)   2019 Dec 19, 8:23am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

ignoreme says
He doesn’t understand these are sociopaths.


That idea does make their actions more understandable. It’s as if they were on a certain path to destruction with hundreds of blinking arrows and signs warning of the cliff ahead but the train conductor said everything is going perfectly and we have plenty of fuel so full steam ahead!

It’s better this way. Such people deserve to lose goddam everything.
146   mell   ignore (4)   2019 Dec 19, 8:24am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
Trump doesn't believe there's a legitimate candidate that can beat him and unfortunately he's probably correct.


I wouldn't say unfortunately. He's certainly far from perfect but his track record compared to the previous losers is outstanding. I'd be looking forward to 4 more years of Trump. I'd eventually like somebody like Rand Paul in there but with a tight leash on immigration, but until Republicans or even heartland Democrats rediscover their ballz to stand up to the SJW regressive cultural-marxist leftoids like Trump did Trump is the best we can get.
147   WookieMan   ignore (5)   2019 Dec 19, 8:24am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Shaman says
It’s better this way. Such people deserve to lose goddam everything.

I think they just went all in holding a 2 and a 9 in their hand. It's bad.
148   WookieMan   ignore (5)   2019 Dec 19, 8:28am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

mell says
I wouldn't say unfortunately.

The only reason I say unfortunately is because I think competition is good for everyone including Trump. The Dem field is frankly embarrassing. Regardless of where I end up voting each election, an uncontested candidate is never a good thing for all of us. Creates complacency.

IMHO Trump is literally uncontested at this point. I think he's done fine/good to date, but I don't think it's a good situation overall. And the way the Dems are imploding, we're going to end up with one party rule and a potential super majority. That scares me a little bit if I'm being honest.
149   mell   ignore (4)   2019 Dec 19, 8:41am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
mell says
I wouldn't say unfortunately.

The only reason I say unfortunately is because I think competition is good for everyone including Trump. The Dem field is frankly embarrassing. Regardless of where I end up voting each election, an uncontested candidate is never a good thing for all of us. Creates complacency.

IMHO Trump is literally uncontested at this point. I think he's done fine/good to date, but I don't think it's a good situation overall. And the way the Dems are imploding, we're going to end up with one party rule and a potential super majority. That scares me a little bit if I'm being honest.


Fair point, but I def want to keep a tight leash on immigration for a while until this open borders frenzy has receded, currently many countries have changed or are changing from open borders nutjob policies to reasonable policies like they used to be and soon maybe even Dems will at least partially support those once they found out that they can't get any of their current nutjobs elected and then fire the Squad and the whole regressive cultural-marxist left that has besieged the Dem party for too long. I think we need 4 more years of Trump.
150   WookieMan   ignore (5)   2019 Dec 19, 8:49am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

JerryR says
WookieMan says
Shaman says
It’s better this way. Such people deserve to lose goddam everything.

I think they just went all in holding a 2 and a 9 in their hand. It's bad.


I didn't see Pelosi send it to the Senate. Is she really in any rush and why can't she still gather evidence? Tell us what says she has to send it and still can't gather evidence?

The bag of shit is burning on NP's front porch. If she wants to let it burn and start the house on fire, then go for it. Lol!
151   socal2   ignore (2)   2019 Dec 19, 8:54am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
That scares me a little bit if I'm being honest.


The Democrats need a thorough drubbing (like Labour had last week in the UK) to shake them free of their SJW and Marxist insanity.
152   NoCoupForYou   ignore (6)   2019 Dec 19, 9:51am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Hours before the Wednesday vote, Mark Rapparport said he knew what would transpire. The 56-year-old Costa Mesa real estate developer with sunglasses and a big smile got off his cellphone in Newport Beach and looked into his crystal ball.

House lawmakers, with a few exceptions, will vote along party lines and approve impeachment articles, he said. This kicks the can to the Senate, where a “BS trial” will commence, he continued. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) is likely to hold a trial with no witnesses, he predicted.

So far, he’s pretty much on the mark, and he’s deeply unhappy about it.

Still, he credits Pelosi’s “amazing instincts.” He believes the process so far has been “worth it.” But he’s looking nervously to the 2020 election, worrying about how the impeachment will play out and whether voters will turn their back on a president he says is deplorable.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-12-19/california-trump-impeachment-reactions
153   NoCoupForYou   ignore (6)   2019 Dec 19, 9:52am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Saying we're biased is fake news!
154   WookieMan   ignore (5)   2019 Dec 19, 10:07am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

JerryR says
Did Republicans get any Independents to side with them? You do know that fewer people voted to impeach Clinton than Trump and it was delayed due to bombing in Iraq.

What's your point? Each state gets two senators. The country feels that Republicans have a better vision for the country. House districts are mainly based on population. Most normal people don't give a fuck for the policies of SF, LA, Chicago and NYC. Cool, they get the House which is half of one branch and the other two are controlled by the other party. Temper tantrum continues.
155   WookieMan   ignore (5)   2019 Dec 19, 10:08am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

And fuck, they're going to lose the house after this. Winning I guess?
156   NoCoupForYou   ignore (6)   2019 Dec 19, 10:10am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

JerryR says

Did Republicans get any Independents to side with them?


What independents?

The only Independent in the House I can think of is Justin Amish, a Palestinian Hyper-Neoliberal China-outsourcer Anti-semite who won't be re-elected.

Edit: And, he was the only non-Democrat to vote to impeach Trump. He'll be selling generic silver rounds and pushing Gold IRAs by this time next year.
157   socal2   ignore (2)   2019 Dec 19, 10:12am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

JerryR says
Did Republicans get any Independents to side with them?


Did the Democrats get any Republicans to switch parties during the Clinton impeachment?
158   WookieMan   ignore (5)   2019 Dec 19, 10:17am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

NoCoupForYou says
JerryR says

Did Republicans get any Independents to side with them?


What independents?

This is a resurrection of a user that Patrick has banned in the past. I've already wasted too much time responding here and in other threads. It's too easy though to poke holes in a wet paper towel, so I go down that rabbit hole. lol.
160   willywonka   ignore (4)   2019 Dec 19, 10:34am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Whenever I find myself troubled by world events, especially by the USA at war with itself, I take solace in seeking wisdom by asking:

What would Corn Pop do?
161   mell   ignore (4)   2019 Dec 19, 10:44am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Can't stop the MAGA train. Don't try. Record low UE, no regime change wars and securing the borders. 4 more years guaranteed.
162   Ceffer   ignore (4)   2019 Dec 19, 10:46am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

willywonka says
What would Corn Pop do?

Swing a chain, wrap it around Trump's neck, and drag him to Attica with Putin still stuck in his ass?
163   WookieMan   ignore (5)   2019 Dec 19, 10:50am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

JerryR says
WookieMan says
And fuck, they're going to lose the house after this. Winning I guess?


When one makes so many predictions and so few turn out to be right I take those people's opinions with a grain of salt.

List 'em chief....

I mentioned in this actual thread that I thought Shaman was overly optimistic about Dems voting not to impeach. Wasn't a knock, just being realistic. I thought more would turn myself and I was wrong. What you don't understand is that it doesn't matter what the representatives do. It's what the voters do 11/2020.

There has been no victory with this. I'm not going to use buzzwords that everyone else is using. This is going to go down as the worst mistake in the history of American politics. If you're enjoying it, I don't get it. No one should enjoy what's going on.
164   mell   ignore (4)   2019 Dec 19, 11:17am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Trump will win 2020 by a landslide. Only thing Dems can hope for is a recession. Since they hate America its probably what they're hoping for. Trump economy is on fire. Let's get more years of MAGA!
165   WookieMan   ignore (5)   2019 Dec 19, 11:51am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

JerryR says
Hmmm, how do you know what I do or don't understand? Actually its not really about the voters. If it was then Clinton would have won. It's really about the electoral college.

Are you high? Voters determine the electoral college. I know you know this and are just trolling as you have in the past.

And yes, I do know what you don't understand. 😂
167   ignoreme   ignore (0)   2019 Dec 19, 12:23pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Shaman says
It’s as if they were on a certain path to destruction with hundreds of blinking arrows and signs warning of the cliff ahead but the train conductor said everything is going perfectly and we have plenty of fuel so full steam ahead!


Oh, Nancy saw this coming a long way off and didn’t want to do it. Her base forced her hand. She had to impeach or she would have been primaried. At that point a non-sociopath would have given the vulnerable dems cover to vote present and the vote would have failed like you predicted.

As a sociopath though she doesn’t care about the good of the Democrat party. What’s best politically for her and other “safe” Democrats is to get the impeachment done, even though they risk losing control of the House now, at least they won’t be primaried.
168   NoCoupForYou   ignore (6)   2019 Dec 19, 12:25pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

JerryR says
Have you not heard. Nancy hasn't set the silver platter down yet. Republicans throwing a temper tantrum about that too.


Have you not heard? Senate doesn't need to wait, the Constitution only requires a House Vote, no formal delivery is mentioned.

Senate trial can begin immediately.

Frankly, we need lots and lots of witnesses testifying in the Republican Senate under penalty of perjury and contempt.

Hunter Biden should be called right away.
169   ignoreme   ignore (0)   2019 Dec 19, 12:41pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
If you're enjoying it, I don't get it. No one should enjoy what's going on.


We are at peak TDS right now. Leftists living in their bubbles can’t even understand the rest of the country. They are happy about the impeachment because they think it hurt Trump somehow...

It’s not rational but I guess if you live in SF it makes sense.
170   Shaman   ignore (2)   2019 Dec 19, 3:21pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I don’t listen to Trump much. His style of talking annoys me. But nobody better has been proposed yet, so I’m sticking with him for 2020. The economic fundamentals, border security, trade deals, and irritating Leftists is all wrapped up in a nice orange present. I don’t have to listen to him talk to get those benefits!
171   Shaman   ignore (2)   2019 Dec 19, 3:23pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Besides, what am I gonna do, go to Biden who likes talking about kids jumping on his lap and playing with his leg hair? What the fuck! The guy is a loon and a pervert and also corrupt, as well as having a bad deal for America. I’ll stick with the POTUS I know.
172   mell   ignore (4)   2019 Dec 19, 3:29pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

JerryR says
Can you make sense of this? This sounds like a crazy homeless person talking, scary

I assure you that 1) Trump rarely if never uses a dish washer and 2)I only have to push the dishwasher button once. And the dishes come out clean.

This is the guy you support?


What part of that didn't you understand? Seems pretty clear to me. Some household anecdotes. Nothing wrong with that. DT doesn't use a tele-prompter like Obummer, so yeah it's a bit hacky sometimes. So what.
173   NoCoupForYou   ignore (6)   2019 Dec 19, 3:44pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

This is so great. The Democrats pursued a political impeachment, and are now putting it in a holding pattern for pure political purposes.

This is something that could only make sense to Big City Dem Politicians in Chicago or SF, it doesn't play in Peoria.

The hilarious thing is, the Dems think they are Winning Bigly.
175   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (2)   2019 Dec 19, 4:26pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

willywonka says
What would Corn Pop do?


Find corn mom?
176   Chiromancer   ignore (0)   2019 Dec 19, 4:31pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
And fuck, they're going to lose the house after this.


So we have a thread where in every Trumplicker was wrong in their predictions, immediately making more predictions....
177   Booger   ignore (4)   2019 Dec 19, 4:35pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Trump is still our president.
178   Patrick   ignore (1)   2019 Dec 19, 8:28pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

WookieMan says
This is a resurrection of a user that Patrick has banned in the past.


Yup, pretty sure you're right. Same tone.
181   WookieMan   ignore (5)   2019 Dec 20, 12:50pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
WookieMan says
This is a resurrection of a user that Patrick has banned in the past.


Yup, pretty sure you're right. Same tone.

JerryR says
WookieMan says
It's too easy though to poke holes in a wet paper towel,


Tell me more how Star Wars is in the genre of comedy.

Lol, yup Patrick.

JerryR still caught up on something you know you're wrong about? I didn't say Star Wars was a comedy. I didn't say I ONLY watch comedies. Hell, many comedies have serious parts to them, are they now dramas? You understand you're wrong. The problem is you didn't bring a ladder into the hole to get out. Keep digging bro.
182   WookieMan   ignore (5)   2019 Dec 20, 1:07pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Chiromancer says
WookieMan says
And fuck, they're going to lose the house after this.


So we have a thread where in every Trumplicker was wrong in their predictions, immediately making more predictions....

I was wrong. Haven't seen anyone else here not own up to it. Thought more Democrats would flip and that didn't come to fruition. It's more shocking than Trump being elected in the first place.

So now that I'm wrong and have admitted it. What does that change? You think this was a benefit to the Democrats or our country? We're worse off today than we were last week because of this. If you want one party in supreme control of all 3 branches, this is what has been accomplished.

« First    « Previous    Comments 143 - 182 of 182    Last »


about   best comments   contact   one year ago   suggestions