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Great news Renewable Power will never replace Modern Power, because it was never meant to. Acceptance is the first step now move on.
2019 May 15, 1:37pm 1,158 views 9 comments
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HeadSet
2019 May 15, 1:47pm
HeadSet
2019 May 15, 1:47pm
The Reason Renewables Can't Power Modern Civilization Is Because They Were Never Meant To
Let me add a caveat:
"Unless the first world population stabilizes to a renewable resource sustainable level." That is, renewable energy plus more efficient use will work as long as the 1st World population is low enough not to out demand the system.
Let me add a caveat:
"Unless the first world population stabilizes to a renewable resource sustainable level." That is, renewable energy plus more efficient use will work as long as the 1st World population is low enough not to out demand the system.
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Tenpoundbass
2019 May 15, 4:31pm
Tenpoundbass
2019 May 15, 4:31pm
HeadSet says
There in lies the problem. You said plus more efficient use. Having to store it in Batteries is not sustainable. A report recently published showed LED lights are ruining people's eyesight. The low energy lights in general are not suitable filament light substitute. All it did was ruin my once 21/21 vision. Between that, and reverting on Printing standards that had always been in place for Safety reasons and to make sure everyone could read informational text, on labels, bottles, signs, and tags. Every room in my house 2 to 5 light sources now. Where as before you only needed one overhead. Lamps in the living room were intentionally dim, so you could turn off the overhead and have a more cozy setting.
If this were 30 to 40 years ago, the Greatest Generation in their 50's and 60's would have Sued every damn body involved with creating the whole Green sham they've perpetrated on us. They've sold us inferior shit, regardless the health effects. Even look at Monsanto. As long as some official Academic says "Oh this is better, and 100% safe." Then that's it. Out with the old and in with the new. GMO everything and weed killer in all of it.
Renewable power was only enriching the people Obama gave billions to, and we've got nothing to show for it. It was supposed be cheap and more powerful by now. We're still with 1980's solar technology today. And 1890 Windmill charge a battery, technology.
That is, renewable energy plus more efficient use will work as long as the 1st World population is low enough not to out demand the system.
There in lies the problem. You said plus more efficient use. Having to store it in Batteries is not sustainable. A report recently published showed LED lights are ruining people's eyesight. The low energy lights in general are not suitable filament light substitute. All it did was ruin my once 21/21 vision. Between that, and reverting on Printing standards that had always been in place for Safety reasons and to make sure everyone could read informational text, on labels, bottles, signs, and tags. Every room in my house 2 to 5 light sources now. Where as before you only needed one overhead. Lamps in the living room were intentionally dim, so you could turn off the overhead and have a more cozy setting.
If this were 30 to 40 years ago, the Greatest Generation in their 50's and 60's would have Sued every damn body involved with creating the whole Green sham they've perpetrated on us. They've sold us inferior shit, regardless the health effects. Even look at Monsanto. As long as some official Academic says "Oh this is better, and 100% safe." Then that's it. Out with the old and in with the new. GMO everything and weed killer in all of it.
Renewable power was only enriching the people Obama gave billions to, and we've got nothing to show for it. It was supposed be cheap and more powerful by now. We're still with 1980's solar technology today. And 1890 Windmill charge a battery, technology.
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Tenpoundbass
2019 May 15, 4:38pm
Tenpoundbass
2019 May 15, 4:38pm
Thinking outside the box would be something like. Had they invented Capacitors that quickly charge, from solar or wind. Then have a way to convert the quick release of the power from the Capacitors to recharge batteries over 10 or 20 minutes. That way have the Solar or Wind source, charge huge banks and arrays of Capacitors. That way you have a huge surplus of capacitors charged. When the sun is not shining or the wind isn't blowing. Rather than selling it back to the Grid. You're always charging a capacitor.
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MolotovCocktail
2025 Aug 20, 1:54pm
MolotovCocktail
2025 Aug 20, 1:54pm
Trillions wasted on wind & solar have not changed the global balance of electricity from coal & oil. It's unlikely to change in coming decades. Over past decades, natural gas & coal remained relatively unchanged. But nuclear declined, wiping out contributions from wind & solar.
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Ceffer
2025 Aug 21, 6:34pm
Ceffer
2025 Aug 21, 6:34pm
Green measures are a perfect Satanic Inversion line array:
Their deployments are based on lies about 'global warming' and the environment
They are 'designed to fail' to throw populations into panic and failure and increase the wealth of those holding monopolies on energy resources.
They do not recover their own costs. They cost more to build and operate than any savings that they return to society. They have to be heavily subsidized.
They are themselves environmental hazards with their plastics, batteries, and metals. There will be toxic landfills in relatively short order of 'green' machines that cannot be economically replaced and nothing can be done with them except place them in fields, dumps and landfills. Europe already has vast fields of battery vehicles that are abandoned because they are too expensive to fix or replace batteries or cannot be updated.
They are subject to the rules of rapid turnover and no repair due to updating and planned obsolescence. They are the opposite of 'renewable'. They are only 'trashable' due to the finite limits of electronics in general, companies going out of service, components not replaceable and the general trend of things always changing and 'upgrading'.
They are access points to the grid for sabotage through their foreign manufactured electronics i.e. they can be designed to destroy the grid on remote command
Their deployments are based on lies about 'global warming' and the environment
They are 'designed to fail' to throw populations into panic and failure and increase the wealth of those holding monopolies on energy resources.
They do not recover their own costs. They cost more to build and operate than any savings that they return to society. They have to be heavily subsidized.
They are themselves environmental hazards with their plastics, batteries, and metals. There will be toxic landfills in relatively short order of 'green' machines that cannot be economically replaced and nothing can be done with them except place them in fields, dumps and landfills. Europe already has vast fields of battery vehicles that are abandoned because they are too expensive to fix or replace batteries or cannot be updated.
They are subject to the rules of rapid turnover and no repair due to updating and planned obsolescence. They are the opposite of 'renewable'. They are only 'trashable' due to the finite limits of electronics in general, companies going out of service, components not replaceable and the general trend of things always changing and 'upgrading'.
They are access points to the grid for sabotage through their foreign manufactured electronics i.e. they can be designed to destroy the grid on remote command
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stereotomy
2025 Aug 22, 1:36am
stereotomy
2025 Aug 22, 1:36am
It's true, electronics and batteries are disposable compared to electromechanical machines. Batteries last at most 5 years, electronics (electrolytic capacitors, SSD or HDD disk drives, and any electronics subjected to high heat cycling) anywhere from 5 to 25 years.
I have small engines that are 50 years old and keep running with sustainable maintenance. My wife's car is 17 years old and still running with (sometimes expensive) maintenance, but we're not throwing shit away every 5 years.
Good wood furniture made from old growth trees is a multigeneration asset. The best quality furniture uses renewable glues and finishes like hide glue and shellac. Modern furniture can't hold a candle to this stuff.
I have small engines that are 50 years old and keep running with sustainable maintenance. My wife's car is 17 years old and still running with (sometimes expensive) maintenance, but we're not throwing shit away every 5 years.
Good wood furniture made from old growth trees is a multigeneration asset. The best quality furniture uses renewable glues and finishes like hide glue and shellac. Modern furniture can't hold a candle to this stuff.
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mell
2025 Aug 22, 5:29am
stereotomy says
Log cabins last longer than most "modern" houses.
Good wood furniture made from old growth trees is a multigeneration asset. The best quality furniture uses renewable glues and finishes like hide glue and shellac. Modern furniture can't hold a candle to this stuff.
Log cabins last longer than most "modern" houses.
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MolotovCocktail
2025 Nov 10, 12:53pm
MolotovCocktail
2025 Nov 10, 12:53pm
MolotovCocktail says
Solar power that isn't bullshit:
Exowatt P3
Most of it is in a standard shipping container. Produces 25,000 kilowatts each.
Fresnel lenses heat a big ass ceramic brick in the container to 1,000°C. An industrial fan blows air across the hot brick. Hot air drives a Stirling engine.
Fresnel & Stirling systems are 200+ year old tech. Industrial fan what? 120?
24/7 dispatchable electrical power. 3 - 4 cents per kw.
Ceramic brick is good for 50 years continous operation.
They are striving to get that down to 1 cent over time and scale.
Everything is 100% made in America.
www.exowatt.com
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelshellenberger/2019/05/06/the-reason-renewables-cant-power-modern-civilization-is-because-they-were-never-meant-to/#12e32e27ea2b
The Reason Renewables Can't Power Modern Civilization Is Because They Were Never Meant To
Over the last decade, journalists have held up Germany’s renewables energy transition, the Energiewende, as an environmental model for the world.
“Many poor countries, once intent on building coal-fired power plants to bring electricity to their people, are discussing whether they might leapfrog the fossil age and build clean grids from the outset,” thanks to the Energiewende, wrote a New York Times reporter in 2014.
With Germany as inspiration, the United Nations and World Bank poured billions into renewables like wind, solar, and hydro in developing nations like Kenya.
But then, last year, Germany was forced to acknowledge that it had to delay its phase-out of coal, and would not meet its 2020 greenhouse gas reduction commitments. It announced plans to bulldoze an ancient church and forest in order to get at the coal underneath it.
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After renewables investors and advocates, including Al Gore and Greenpeace, criticized Germany, journalists came to the country’s defense. “Germany has fallen short of its emission targets in part because its targets were so ambitious,” one of them argued last summer.
“If the rest of the world made just half Germany’s effort, the future for our planet would look less bleak,” she wrote. “So Germany, don’t give up. And also: Thank you.”
But Germany didn’t just fall short of its climate targets. Its emissions have flat-lined since 2009.
Now comes a major article in the country’s largest newsweekly magazine, Der Spiegel, titled, “A Botched Job in Germany” ("Murks in Germany"). The magazine’s cover shows broken wind turbines and incomplete electrical transmission towers against a dark silhouette of Berlin.