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anonymous
2019 Feb 1, 1:37pm
Killing the environment isn't good for anyone but don't tell the current administration....let's just keep it a secret
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Heraclitusstudent
2019 Feb 1, 2:48pm
Heraclitusstudent
2019 Feb 1, 2:48pm
willywonka says
I'm fairly certain neither food, nor coal or iron were shipped by Europeans from the new world to the old one.
European certainly imported plants like potatoes and corn. But they didn't need to kill millions to do this.
Also they didn't willingly kill millions. It accidentally happened that imported diseases did that.
Natural resources and food shipped from the New World helped Europe's population to expand. It also allowed people to stop farming for sustenance and begin working in other industries for spare money.
I'm fairly certain neither food, nor coal or iron were shipped by Europeans from the new world to the old one.
European certainly imported plants like potatoes and corn. But they didn't need to kill millions to do this.
Also they didn't willingly kill millions. It accidentally happened that imported diseases did that.
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Patrick
2019 Feb 1, 6:02pm
Patrick
2019 Feb 1, 6:02pm
Heraclitusstudent says
Exactly.
And the children of Indian women with Spanish men were much more likely to survive these diseases, which is why Mexico is almost entirely mestizo now.
Also they didn't willingly kill millions. It accidentally happened that imported diseases did that.
Exactly.
And the children of Indian women with Spanish men were much more likely to survive these diseases, which is why Mexico is almost entirely mestizo now.
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clambo
2019 Feb 2, 5:29am
The article was interesting; the only thing I wondered was how many millions of people really inhabited North and South America at that time. I always had imagined it was not such a large number.
There were cases when blankets were given to American Indians which were "infected" by sick colonists, an early example of biological warfare.
I was curious of the history of Baja Sur Mexico and they had a few people running around who didn't like monogamy; they had fewer men than women from inter-tribal warfare and didn't like the morality thrust upon them by the Missionaries.
There were cases when blankets were given to American Indians which were "infected" by sick colonists, an early example of biological warfare.
I was curious of the history of Baja Sur Mexico and they had a few people running around who didn't like monogamy; they had fewer men than women from inter-tribal warfare and didn't like the morality thrust upon them by the Missionaries.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Feb 2, 5:33am
MisdemeanorRebel
2019 Feb 2, 5:33am
clambo says
Didn't happen, no theory of bacterial infection. In the 1600-1800s, if somebody died on a ship, his possessions would be auctioned at the mast; other sailors would have no problem buying the blanket and even the clothing of a man who died from smallpox or any other disease. On land, items belonging to single/widowed people would be sold or given away as charity without any thought to disease. By the Revolutionary War, they used to thread needles in the flesh of afflicted individuals and run it through their own arms, the first attempt at vaccination - but more to do with "Hair of the Dog" idea than any concept of Disease Transmission.
There was also an idea that murky, moist, nasty air spread disease, from which we get the word malaria - bad air. People were more concerned with finding high or windy and dry places in any kind of outbreak since they believed all major diseases/plagues were from humid, dank conditions (also why they lit big fires and closed all windows when sick, to dry and heat the room).
There were cases when blankets were given to American Indians which were "infected" by sick colonists, an early example of biological warfare.
Didn't happen, no theory of bacterial infection. In the 1600-1800s, if somebody died on a ship, his possessions would be auctioned at the mast; other sailors would have no problem buying the blanket and even the clothing of a man who died from smallpox or any other disease. On land, items belonging to single/widowed people would be sold or given away as charity without any thought to disease. By the Revolutionary War, they used to thread needles in the flesh of afflicted individuals and run it through their own arms, the first attempt at vaccination - but more to do with "Hair of the Dog" idea than any concept of Disease Transmission.
There was also an idea that murky, moist, nasty air spread disease, from which we get the word malaria - bad air. People were more concerned with finding high or windy and dry places in any kind of outbreak since they believed all major diseases/plagues were from humid, dank conditions (also why they lit big fires and closed all windows when sick, to dry and heat the room).
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Bd6r
2019 Feb 2, 7:09am
Bd6r
2019 Feb 2, 7:09am
Why Genghis Khan was good for the planet
Laying waste to land scrubbed 700m tonnes of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere
https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2011/jan/26/genghis-khan-eco-warrior
KILL ALL HUMANS! PRESERVE ENVIRONMENT!
Laying waste to land scrubbed 700m tonnes of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere
https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2011/jan/26/genghis-khan-eco-warrior
KILL ALL HUMANS! PRESERVE ENVIRONMENT!
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Patrick
2019 Feb 2, 10:19am
Patrick
2019 Feb 2, 10:19am
clambo says
@clambo Actually that never happened. Was entirely fabricated by a SJW academic:
https://quod.lib.umich.edu/p/plag/5240451.0001.009/--did-the-us-army-distribute-smallpox-blankets-to-indians?rgn=main;view=fulltext
But now that asshole's lie has become "common knowledge" and is used to encourage racism against white people.
There were cases when blankets were given to American Indians which were "infected" by sick colonists, an early example of biological warfare.
@clambo Actually that never happened. Was entirely fabricated by a SJW academic:
https://quod.lib.umich.edu/p/plag/5240451.0001.009/--did-the-us-army-distribute-smallpox-blankets-to-indians?rgn=main;view=fulltext
In this analysis of the genocide rhetoric employed over the years by Ward Churchill, an ethnic studies professor at the University of Colorado, a "distressing" conclusion is reached: Churchill has habitually committed multiple counts of research misconduct—specifically, fabrication and falsification. While acknowledging the "politicization" of the topic and evidence of other outrages committed against Native American tribes in times past, this study examines the different versions of the "smallpox blankets" episode published by Churchill between 1994 and 2003. The "preponderance of evidence" standard of proof strongly indicates that Churchill fabricated events that never occurred—namely the U.S. Army's alleged distribution of smallpox infested blankets to the Mandan Indians in 1837. The analysis additionally reveals that Churchill falsified sources to support his fabricated version of events, and also concealed evidence in his cited sources that actually disconfirms, rather than substantiates, his allegations of genocide.
But now that asshole's lie has become "common knowledge" and is used to encourage racism against white people.
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European settlers killed 56 million indigenous people over about 100 years in South, Central and North America, causing large swaths of farmland to be abandoned and reforested, researchers at University College London, or UCL, estimate. The increase in trees and vegetation across an area the size of France resulted in a massive decrease in carbon dioxide (CO2) in the atmosphere, according to the study.
Carbon levels changed enough to cool the Earth by 1610, researchers found. Columbus arrived in 1492, "CO2 and climate had been relatively stable until this point," said UCL Geography Professor Mark Maslin, one of the study's co-authors. "So, this is the first major change we see in the Earth's greenhouse gases."
Before this study, some scientists had argued the temperature change in the 1600s, called the Little Ice Age, was caused only by natural forces.
But by combining archaeological evidence, historical data and analysis of carbon found in Antarctic ice, the UCL researchers showed how the reforestation -- directly caused by the Europeans' arrival -- was a key component of the global chill, they said.
"For once, we've been able to balance all the boxes and realize that the only way the Little Ice Age was so intense is ... because of the genocide of millions of people," Maslin told CNN.
The methodology
Researchers analyzed Antarctic ice, which traps atmospheric gas and can reveal how much carbon dioxide was in the atmosphere centuries ago.
"The ice cores showed that there was a larger dip in CO2 (than usual) in 1610, which was caused by the land and not the oceans," said Alexander Koch, lead author of the study.
A small shift in temperatures -- about a 10th of a degree in the 17th century -- led to colder winters, frosty summers and failing harvests, Koch said.
The implications
The implications of the study go beyond climate science and also contribute to research in geography and history, Maslin said, noting that deaths of indigenous Americans directly contributed to the success of the European economy.
Natural resources and food shipped from the New World helped Europe's population to expand. It also allowed people to stop farming for sustenance and begin working in other industries for spare money.
"The really weird thing is, the depopulation of the Americas may have inadvertently allowed the Europeans to dominate the world," Maslin said. "It also allowed for the Industrial Revolution and for Europeans to continue that domination."
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/02/01/world/european-colonization-climate-change-trnd/index.html