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Tesla as an Investment

By Patrick follow Patrick   2018 Dec 22, 8:42pm 18,664 views   337 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share    


What do people think about Tesla (TSLA)?

It's over $300, with a loss of $10/share, but revenue just keeps going up. Hard to figure out what a fair price is since it doesn't make money yet.

How would you come up with a fair price per share?

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298   zzyzzx   ignore (2)   2019 Apr 4, 12:06pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

$269.69/share -$22.12 (-7.58%)

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/tesla-falls-reporting-worst-sales-172712125.html

Tesla falls after reporting their worst sales numbers in history
299   MrMagic   ignore (10)   2019 May 20, 8:17am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
What do people think about Tesla (TSLA)?


@patrick... did you buy around the time you made this thread?

Tesla's stock tumbles toward multi-year low after Wedbush slashes price target, again.

Shares of Tesla Inc. TSLA, -5.10% tumbled 5.8% toward a 2 1/2-year low in morning trade Monday, after analyst Dan Ives at Wedbush slashed his price target, citing "major concerns" about the trajectory of the electric car maker's growth prospects.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/teslas-stock-sinks-toward-multi-year-low-after-wedbush-slashed-price-target-again-2019-05-20




EJECT.... EJECT..... EJECT....
300   mell   ignore (5)   2019 May 20, 8:44am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I continue to meet steadfast believers who keep buying more unless they're broke. I have never liked Teslas story but it's too early to write them off - however it's clearly not looking good. They need to be careful that no big investor pulls the plug, it's propped up mainly by big money, the retail fans are a small fraction.
301   B.A.C.A.H.   ignore (0)   2019 May 20, 10:18am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I am interested in stocks of companies that solve problems.

Over paying for a Status Symbol is not solving a problem.
302   theoakman   ignore (0)   2019 May 20, 10:33am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

longs are unethical, they typically spread false rumors and endless optimism to pump a stock up and sell
303   Booger   ignore (7)   2019 May 22, 4:41am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

$199.31/sh -5.77 (-2.81%)
Pre-Market: 7:38AM EDT

https://finance.yahoo.com/video/morgan-stanley-cuts-worst-case-213318555.html

Morgan Stanley cuts worst-case price for Tesla to $10
304   zzyzzx   ignore (2)   2019 May 31, 11:28am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Down to $185.61 per share!
305   E-man   ignore (0)   2019 May 31, 4:01pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Tesla is a status symbol? 😂😂😂

If Tesla is a status symbol, what about MBZ, BMW, Porsche, Lexus, Acura, Jaguar, Cadillac, etc...?

Haters are going to hate.
306   E-man   ignore (0)   2019 May 31, 4:04pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

zzyzzx says
Down to $185.61 per share!


It broke its $250 support. Looks like the next support is around $150-$160/share. We’ll have to wait and see.

I’m not so much of a stock guy. I’ll stick with real estate. Just got a nice payday today.
307   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch   ignore (56)   2019 May 31, 4:09pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

It's a penny stock at best.
308   B.A.C.A.H.   ignore (0)   2019 May 31, 4:49pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

E-man says
If Tesla is a status symbol, what about MBZ, BMW, Porsche, Lexus, Acura, Jaguar, Cadillac, etc...?

You are so right, E-man. But Lexus stock is not traded. Toyota stock is, and for decades they solved the problem of low quality /poor value for American consumers.
I hope you enjoy your Tesla, E-man. Not the same thing as investing in the stock, though.
309   E-man   ignore (0)   2019 Jun 1, 12:18am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

B.A.C.A.H. says
E-man says
If Tesla is a status symbol, what about MBZ, BMW, Porsche, Lexus, Acura, Jaguar, Cadillac, etc...?

You are so right, E-man. But Lexus stock is not traded. Toyota stock is, and for decades they solved the problem of low quality /poor value for American consumers.
I hope you enjoy your Tesla, E-man. Not the same thing as investing in the stock, though.


While all ICE companies said making electric cars were not feasible. Guess who solved that puzzle? Now, look at which companies are chasing Tesla? Porsche, MBZ, BMW, Volvo, Ford, GM, etc...

Haters are going to hate. Deniers are going to deny. I love my Tesla. No reason to deny it. It always puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. When I come back from a vacation, the first thing I do is to take my Tesla out for a spin. That’s how fun to drive it. How much does that worth?
310   BayArea   ignore (1)   2019 Jun 1, 7:11am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Tesla’s best days are ahead of it.

I live and work in the silicon valley. The car is adored by the masses.

With time the issues will be resolved and the stock price will hit all time highs.
311   mell   ignore (5)   2019 Jun 1, 10:04am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

BayArea says
Tesla’s best days are ahead of it.

I live and work in the silicon valley. The car is adored by the masses.

With time the issues will be resolved and the stock price will hit all time highs.


Seriously doubt that. It's a good car and there's no reason to hate it but it won't be able to make a profit before competition closes in. Maybe the batteries and gigfactories and other business such as patents etc. can save it but the car alone likely won't.
312   mell   ignore (5)   2019 Jun 1, 10:05am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

But if you gamble on the long term recovery, what would be a good entry point?
313   FortWayneIndiana   ignore (3)   2019 Jun 1, 12:49pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Any point is fine, you can’t time markets.

mell says
But if you gamble on the long term recovery, what would be a good entry point?
314   B.A.C.A.H.   ignore (0)   2019 Jun 1, 6:04pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

E-man says
Haters are going to hate. Deniers are going to deny. I love my Tesla. No reason to deny it. It always puts a smile on my face every time I drive it. When I come back from a vacation, the first thing I do is to take my Tesla out for a spin. That’s how fun to drive it. How much does that worth?


Dude, it's not all about you.

Patrick's original question, was not if you think your Tesla is a great car.

His question was, is it a good stock in invest in? Since he posed that question, the stock has dropped considerably.

Just because some of us don't think TSLA is a good stock to invest in, does not mean that we are, as you put it, "haters". As a lifelong resident of the Bay Area, I hope Tesla thrives, because of the huge payroll here. Many in my community work in that factory, some in my family acquainted with Tesla employees. I don't know any personally, but I have met one at the gym. But, I do know folks who work for Tesla suppliers. You see, they don't just support families of their direct employees. There's also a legion of folks here who work for suppliers. I'm even related to some of those.

We are not "jealous" of your Status Symbol, and we are not Haters. We are grateful for folks like you for all you do for the local economy.

But, Patrick's question was about the stock as an investment. Even after it dropped so much since he posed that question, it is even now still Priced For Perfection, for mass sales to a mass market that does not exit. Because, the mass market cannot afford for such expensive Status Symbols. A latte, perhaps. Maybe even a Michael Kors handbag or North Face jacket. But not a Tesla car.
315   komputodo   ignore (3)   2019 Jun 1, 6:26pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

about the same as I think about sodastream..
316   Patrick   ignore (1)   2019 Jun 1, 6:28pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

komputodo says
about the same as I think about sodastream..


I sure hope so. I did great with sodastream.
317   B.A.C.A.H.   ignore (0)   2019 Jun 1, 6:37pm     ↓ dislike (1)   quote   flag      

BayArea says
Tesla’s best days are ahead of it.

I live and work in the silicon valley. The car is adored by the masses.

With time the issues will be resolved and the stock price will hit all time highs.



Bitcoin and Crypto-currency
by BayArea on 5 Nov 2017 305 comments, latest 10 hours ago

BayArea says
What do you all think about it from an investment point of view today? I have some buddies in the finance world who are quite bullish on it and claim we are just scratching the surface. Judging by the recent performance, they may be right.

For people who are investing in Bitcoin, what are you using to invest and what recommendations do you have for a new investor?
319   BayArea   ignore (1)   2019 Nov 24, 6:09am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

B.A.C.A.H. says
Since he posed that question, the stock has dropped considerably.


It’s a moving target but the stock price is higher today than when Patrick posted.
321   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (2)   2019 Nov 24, 8:26am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Too volatile for me.

I did miss the initial boat. Did buy a 1,000 later and sold recently to not deal with constant up and downs of it.
322   B.A.C.A.H.   ignore (0)   2019 Nov 24, 9:22am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

BayArea says

It’s a moving target but the stock price is higher today than when Patrick posted.


True that. Up less than one dollar for calendar year.

It's not Cool, nor is it Hip, but SP500 up over 20% this year.
323   Patrick   ignore (1)   2019 Nov 24, 9:48am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Yes, I've made money on Tesla so far. Up 17% for me, but I have to admit I was in the red for a while.

Anyway, it's all basically just noise in the short term. Real investing is done in years and I haven't even owned it a year yet.
324   BayArea   ignore (1)   2019 Nov 24, 9:52am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

B.A.C.A.H. says
BayArea says

It’s a moving target but the stock price is higher today than when Patrick posted.


True that. Up less than one dollar for calendar year.

It's not Cool, nor is it Hip, but SP500 up over 20% this year.


Don’t forget the worst December since the Great Depression
325   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (2)   2019 Nov 24, 9:55am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

I’ve made 10% before selling. It was play money. It would be a gamble for me and I can’t do that.
326   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch   ignore (56)   2019 Nov 24, 10:20am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

What Tesla needs is a cheap version that comes with a home charger install included in the price guaranteed to be completed within 48 hours of signing.

The CANNIBAL ANARCHY edition should have a 500 mile range, no doors or glass or trunk.
327   jazz_music   ignore (15)   2019 Nov 24, 1:24pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Tesla garbage!

M134 Mini gun is passe!

Get this Prius with a 20mm M61 Vulcan belt fed canon mounted on the roof.

6,600 ROUNDS PER SECOND = RESPECT!!!!! = $180,000 per minute of firing

WHY?

BECAUSE AMERICA!!!

328   jazz_music   ignore (15)   2019 Nov 24, 1:39pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

PRIUS OWNER GETS RESPECT FROM TESLA OWNERS

The Prius Vulcan How to Mount a Vulcan Cannon on a Prius:

HOW TO DO IT
329   jazz_music   ignore (15)   2019 Nov 24, 1:41pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

You did what with the budget?
https://youtu.be/aflx7nRZuRY
330   jazz_music   ignore (15)   2019 Nov 24, 1:52pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

'THE HAND OF GOD' M61 20MM VULCAN CANNON

LIVE IN LAS VEGAS' DESERT

331   jazz_music   ignore (15)   2019 Nov 24, 1:56pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

THE HAND OF GOD PRIUS VERUS JAGUAR S TYPE

TELSA LITHIUM BATTERIES WOULD MAKE A BETTER EXPLOSION!!!

=152
332   APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch   ignore (56)   2019 Nov 24, 2:00pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

M61! DON'T! LEAVE HOME WITHOUT IT!
334   Fortwaynemobile   ignore (2)   2019 Nov 24, 6:36pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

It’s been about 6% yoy profit for me. Not greasy, but not bad either.
335   EBGuy   ignore (1)   2019 Nov 25, 11:28am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Cybertruck makes an appearance at the 5:00 minute mark in the SNL DNC debate that I posted on the Bloomberg thread. There's no such thing as bad publicity. What is the probability that AhhhNOLD buys one of these
336   EBGuy   ignore (1)   2019 Nov 25, 3:06pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Well, this explains why it is style challenged...
He attributes its lack of curves to the machines that make it; they aren't strong enough to bend the ultra-hard steel, which is produced by Musk's companies. He plans to use the same alloy for SpaceX's Starship rocket.
"Reason Cybertruck is so planar is that you can't stamp ultra-hard 30X steel, because it breaks the stamping press," Musk tweeted. "Even bending it requires a deep score on inside of bend, which is how the prototype was made."
337   komputodo   ignore (3)   2019 Nov 26, 9:14pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag      

Patrick says
How would you come up with a fair price per share?

You need to make friends with a quant.

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