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2nd Amendment Discussion


               
2018 Feb 17, 11:51am   320,338 views  1,547 comments

by CajunSteve   follow (1)  

With all the talk about the school shootings, let's take a look at what the 2nd Amendment actually says:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Couple things to note in there:

1. The specific mention of a militia being the reason for the need to bear arms.
2. The 2nd Amendment never mentions the word gun at all.

So, what exactly is the definition of "arms"?

In 1755 Dr. Johnson’s Dictionary of the English Language was first published. It defined “arms” as “weapons of offence, or armour of defence.”

Weapons of offence would seem to include pretty much anything and everything, from knives to nuclear weapons. The US has already seen fit to ban some weapons of offence so the 2nd Amendment clearly has not been interpreted strictly as meaning that the US cannot ban all "arms". Therefore, the 2nd Amendment does not guarantee citizens the right to own whatever weapons they choose.

So it then becomes a question of which weapons should be banned, which should be strictly regulated, and which should be lightly regulated or not at all. Like anything else, we should weigh an individual's right with society's right. When looked at in that manner, it becomes very difficult to justify why fully automatic or semi automatic rifles should be allowed. What purpose do they serve an individual? And why would that purpose outweigh the extreme damage those weapons have cased society??

Patrick thinks the Chamber of Commerce is the worst organization, and he may be correct, but the NRA is not far behind.



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1516   Bd6r   2025 Jul 26, 7:29pm  



1517   ForcedTQ   2025 Jul 26, 8:50pm  

MolotovCocktail says

https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2025/07/17/seventh-circuit-says-illegal-aliens-have-no-second-amendment-rights-n1229290





If that’s the case, and I know it is, they also have no other rights enumerated in the constitution, because they are in the country illegally….
1519   RWSGFY   2025 Jul 30, 9:53am  

Patrick says






Do you have a rifle, Pat?
1521   Patrick   2025 Aug 13, 8:51pm  

RWSGFY says

Patrick says







Do you have a rifle, Pat?


A shotgun.
1524   Eric Holder   2025 Aug 15, 5:02pm  

Patrick says






Commie rifle, shit trigger finger discipline.... is that Russian Smokey?
1535   Patrick   2025 Sep 15, 11:54am  




For defense against Democrat violence.
1536   Patrick   2025 Sep 16, 10:22am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/dissing-unity-tuesday-september-16


Three years ago, in the midst of the pandemic’s second full year, on a scorching Independence Day in 2022, freedom-minded Florida resident Victor McDaniels made his stand. Victor took up his post at a major intersection in downtown Pensacola, holding a copy of the U.S. Constitution in one hand and waving at cars with his other hand. He’d set up a camera to film himself. Most importantly, he had a loaded pistol tucked into his pants using a waistband holster that was plainly visible to startled passers-by.

Only took about ten minutes for someone to call 911 and make an anonymous complaint —probably someone named “Karen”— before alert cops arrived on the scene. They checked Victor’s ID and found it valid. They asked for his concealed carry permit, and he produced it. They ran his priors and found his record clean. So they took his pistol, let him keep his holster, and charged Victor with a criminal violation of Florida’s concealed carry law, § 790.053.

According to the police report, Victor told the cops he’d planned to be charged, and intended to fight the charges “to the supreme court.” That’s Florida Man for you. All he needed to complete the scene was a pet alligator. Anyway, that’s where the story gets even more interesting.

Presumably according to plan, Victor’s lawyer moved to dismiss all charges, arguing that §790.053 violated the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution. Victor’s judge, probably sensing he was paddling around in deeper legal waters than he was comfortable swimming by himself, denied the motion. But —and this is remarkable— he, the judge, certified the question to Florida’s 1st Appellate Court. ...

Last week, on September 10th, Florida’s 1st District Court of Appeals finally struck down §790.053, the statute requiring citizens to smuggle their firearms instead of wearing them on their hips. In a remarkable opinion that liberally cited dusty old 1800’s case law, the court colorfully noted that, from the time of the Founding, “The right to keep and bear arms did not extend to the carrying of weapons in secret, which was regarded as the practice of the cowardly and the disreputable and as incompatible with the legitimate exercise of the right of self-defense.”

In other words, the Founders despised concealed carry. On the other hand, the judges noted, “open carry was understood to be the manner of bearing arms that gave full effect to the rights secured by the Second Amendment.”
1540   Patrick   2025 Sep 28, 9:09am  

Want to see the Left defend the 2nd Amendment?
Have President Trump call for a ban on gun sales to trans people...
1544   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Oct 14, 11:04pm  

My baby sis and bro in law give me shit for owning guns. I'm thinking of getting this for bro in law's xmas gift: https://dartarmoury.com/en-us/products/block-17-shell-ejecting-toy-pistol-dart-blaster-cosplay-prop

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