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1   lostand confused   2017 May 5, 10:37pm  

24% poll difference??

2   Peter P   2017 May 5, 10:45pm  

Nah, people are too sexist to vote for a woman president.

3   Booger   2017 May 6, 7:32am  

4chan now blocked in France.

4   Shaman   2017 May 6, 7:35am  

Nah, the French are a special kind of liberal cuck. Imagine a nation of Marcus's.
Sure, the countryside wants her, but the city dwellers are more numerous and love them some submission.

5   HEY YOU   2017 May 6, 9:27am  

Pussy Boy?
Is Trump running in France?
He already holds the title in the U.S.

6   RC2006   2017 May 6, 9:30am  

Libs are pulling thier new card out, the scary Russians.

7   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 May 6, 9:37am  

Peter P says

Nah, people are too sexist to vote for a woman president.

"Either way you're going to end up with a Woman in Charge - Myself or Angela Merkel" - Le Pen

LOL

8   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 May 6, 9:40am  

If you don't think the Media is Totally Biased, Check out this article:

France fights to keep Macron email hack from distorting election
http://news.trust.org/item/20170506132659-scwed

Imagine: "America fights to keep Iranian Hostages out of the Election"

9   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 May 6, 11:58am  

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

If you don't think the Media is Totally Biased, Check out this article:

Someone is hacking into the globalist favored party of the national elections around the world in an effort to make the world a more provincial, nationalistic, and chaotic place. There's a good chance that the Russian government is the guilty party or at least helping. It's quite possible that some other government or group that hates the current world order is helping or doing it as well. That's the big story, and an unbiased media would be reporting on that.

10   Shaman   2017 May 6, 3:49pm  

YesYNot says

hates the current world order

Most of us hate the current world order where the people are sold out by our politicians, taxed into poverty, and browbeaten into silence by the culture police. But then that's your idea of utopia, so of course you're upset you silly cuck!

11   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 May 6, 7:28pm  

YesYNot says

Someone is hacking into the globalist favored party of the national elections around the world in an effort to make the world a more provincial, nationalistic, and chaotic place. There's a good chance that the Russian government is the guilty party or at least helping. It's quite possible that some other government or group that hates the current world order is helping or doing it as well. That's the big story, and an unbiased media would be reporting on that.

Empires, that is superstates, are not known for their Human Rights commitments. They are usually run for, and ultimately collapse due to, their Oligarch Class.

And Obama helped Macron. Sorry, a US President carries the imprint of the USG for the rest of his life no matter what he does.

Obama also interfered on behalf of Remoaners in Brexit, openly and brazenly while he was President.

Globalists want to put more distance between the rulers and the populace, so they're less accountable.
A Globalist is somebody who wants to fulfill the first steps of 1984: Supranational Governments run by bureaucrats and corporate administrators in revolving doors.

Let me ask you a question, what do you think of the Direct Election of Senators? Do you think instead of the populace directly voting for the President, the Senate should vote?

12   just_passing_through   2017 May 6, 9:12pm  

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

the Senate should vote

Perhaps... If the Senators were still appointed by the states.

13   Shaman   2017 May 7, 5:53am  

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Do you think instead of the populace directly voting for the President, the Senate should vote?

It's a terrible idea for the most basic reason: it would drop the US from a very large coalition government (at least in theory) to a small coalition government. Small coalition governments the world over are almost universally corrupt, autocratic, and pay little attention to the will or needs of the people they govern. In short, this would be a giant leap toward the US becoming the new USSR.

14   joeyjojojunior   2017 May 7, 11:31am  

Early results are LePen losing by 31pts. Ouch.

15   RWSGFY   2017 May 7, 11:54am  

Don't quit your day job: you suck at future telling.

16   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 May 7, 11:56am  

As Expected - although it's about 20 pts.

Amazing performance by a minor party in France, not one of whose candidates have ever made it to the second round, and to all time record French Voting abstentions of 26%. An Outsider just got 40% of the vote, unheard of, against an Far Eurocrat Extremist Party endorsed near universally by the Elites.

A real Jeb! in France today.

Mit outgoing Reichmarshall Holland beside me, I, Merkel the First, Kaiserine of the 4th Reich, addnung to meinself der Title of Pressident of der Grossstadt of Frankia. Und now I pass der Title to mein loyal Berater, Macron.

17   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 May 7, 1:29pm  

Globalists want free trade to achieve three positive things:
1) make the overall economy more efficient through specialization
2) make countries more interdependent and therefore less likely to attack each other
3) help facilitate cooperation to solve global problems such as environmental issues, slavery, etc.

Other outcomes of globalization:
1) the value of labor is equalizing. In countries like the US, it directly decreases the value of labor that is not tied to geography (e.g. manufacturing) and indirectly decreases the value of labor that is tied to geography (e.g. nursing). This is seen as a negative by most people, but seen as a positive by the corporate manager class.
2) pollution shifting. This could be solved through trade deals, and the accounting methods are well developed.

The negative aspects of globalization are easy to see and bitch about. The positive aspects are sometimes ignored by people who have a complaint. Even if the complaint is legitimate, it's dishonest to not have a straightforward conversation about the benefits. I was hoping that Hillary would force this conversation in the campaign, but she was unfortunately, not a good enough leader to do that. When she was straightforward, like when she told people in WV that coal is not coming back, it didn't work well for her. People went for the sales guy who made them promises.

Anyway, some of the other things that conservatives like to bash the Dems about like SJWs don't have anything to do with globalization. I'm confused about how that came up.

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

They are usually run for, and ultimately collapse due to, their Oligarch Class.

Who is better known for it's oligarch class, the US or your beloved Russia?

18   Shaman   2017 May 7, 2:18pm  

Quigley says

Nah, the French are a special kind of liberal cuck. Imagine a nation of Marcus's.

Sure, the countryside wants her, but the city dwellers are more numerous and love them some submission.

Sometimes it's just fucking exhausting to be right all the time!
I need a beer.

19   BayArea   2017 May 7, 3:55pm  

I'm a little surprised. I thought France has been raped hard enough in recent years that I thought Le Pen's emergence was timely...

I guess it will take a little more raping for people to come around.

20   HEY YOU   2017 May 7, 4:26pm  

The French spoke: "Fuck Americans that don't like it."

21   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 May 7, 6:10pm  

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

"Either way you're going to end up with a Woman in Charge - Myself or Angela Merkel" - Le Pen

Guess which is the first leader Macron is going to meet? (Hint: Not Putin or May)
YesYNot says

Who is better known for it's oligarch class, the US or your beloved Russia?

Abramovich is seldom referred to as an Oligarch in Russia. Yet, Bezos, Buffet, the Koch Brothers, Soros, are also seldom called Oligarchs in the USA. The latter meddles in everything from Education to Immigration, not just in the US but worldwide.

He thinks Hungary doesn't have the right to regulate their own institutions of higher learning, and is now using his cash and power to sic Eurocrats on Orban.

I'm actually very positive. The EU on Greece, Hungary, Poland, Britain, etc. is showing the Iron Fist behind the pretty rhetoric and policy 'certainty'.

I welcome the iron fist of the EU, I can't wait until all of sudden, Merkel decides that combat units of the Bundeswehr can be used to put down Athenians. The masque will be off the 4th Reich/Eurasia.

YesYNot says

The negative aspects of globalization are easy to see and bitch about. The positive aspects are sometimes ignored by people who have a complaint. Even if the complaint is legitimate, it's dishonest to not have a straightforward conversation about the benefits. I was hoping that Hillary would force this conversation in the campaign, but she was unfortunately, not a good enough leader to do that. When she was straightforward, like when she told people in WV that coal is not coming back, it didn't work well for her. People went for the sales guy who made them promises.

There are few positive aspects. Wages go down, and perhaps electronics chotskies go down, but rents, medical costs, food, goes up up up or at least fails to be linked to wages.

Nor is it equally applied. Public Schools should have been disrupted by the internet at least a decade ago, with public school teachers furloughed. Think of the efficiency not to have to pay 6 figure admins and often, educators, all the utilities and building costs of obsolete brick and mortar schools. Administrators should be fighting off 500,000 H1-Bs, since it's ludicrous to pay an Assistant Dean of Diversity $120k/year when an Indian with 10 years' admin experience and a double minority (Indian, Woman) will do the job for $40k.

Public Education should have been rationalized years ago. We're losing tens of billions because of fear of change. :)

22   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 May 7, 6:30pm  

@YesYNot

Curious:
Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Let me ask you a question, what do you think of the Direct Election of Senators? Do you think instead of the populace directly voting for the President, the Senate should vote?

23   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 May 7, 6:56pm  

I guess you are asking if the president should be elected directly by the people or indirectly with the the people electing the senators and the senators electing the president. If so, I think that the people should select the president directly. I also think it should be by the popular vote. The only good argument for the electoral college imo is the firewall against voter fraud. The major drawback to the electoral college imo is the way it gives preferential treatment to swing states and the voters in them.

24   MisdemeanorRebel   2017 May 7, 7:09pm  

YesYNot says

I guess you are asking if the president should be elected directly by the people or indirectly with the the people electing the senators and the senators electing the president. If so, I think that the people should select the president directly. I also think it should be by the popular vote. The only good argument for the electoral college imo is the firewall against voter fraud. The major drawback to the electoral college imo is the way it gives preferential treatment to swing states and the voters in them.

Do you know how the President of the European Commission is picked?

Do you know how the President of the EC's cabinet members are selected?

Do you know where all laws must originate from in the EU?

Does the European Council have to abide by the EU Parliament's votes?

Can the European Parliament abolish laws by itself?

25   FNWGMOBDVZXDNW   2017 May 8, 3:41am  

Lashkar_i_Trumpi says

Do you know how the President of the European Commission is picked?

There are huge differences between the roles of the US executive and the EC President. Do you think everybody should be elected directly? How about the Supreme Court?

26   FortWayne   2017 May 8, 6:49pm  

Quigley says

Quigley says

Nah, the French are a special kind of liberal cuck. Imagine a nation of Marcus's.


Sure, the countryside wants her, but the city dwellers are more numerous and love them some submission.

Sometimes it's just fucking exhausting to be right all the time!

I need a beer.

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