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I can tell you this PCGyver. Only one candidate left in the race has claimed "It Will Never Happen"

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-single-payer-health-care-will-never-ever-happen/

This is the essence of Clinton Third Wayism and why she needs to be sent to down defeat. They will never actually push for Single Payer, and will always use the excuse of fierce political and industry opposition - while talking Insurance Industry money the whole time. It's a front, they have no intention of fixing our ridiculous health care system. If Hillary is elected, you can forget it. The Country Club Republicans will be back front and center after Trump loses, Hillary doesn't want it, and everything she does will be opposed.

It's pretty clear who the Establishment likes and who they loathe.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/select-sectors.php?sector=F

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/select-sectors.php?sector=H

These numbers are hard cold facts, not rhetoric.

And why I am correct to say there would have been very little practical difference between Jeb! and Hillary Presidencies.

Notice who doesn't make the top 5. People who dropped out 6 months ago got more money than the other major candidate did.

The Democratic Party must learn a lesson: "Don't you dare nominate another Clintonite neoliberal again."

PCGyver says

What we need is Medicare for all.

Gross

notice how communist the oldies get when it comes to social security and medicare

Medicare for all would likely only cost about twice as much as current Medicare. That being because old people need way more care than everyone else. We could get ER done for about half what is spent now.

the simple fact is these system were never meant to fund long term medical care the last 20 years of your life.

the boomers are financially breaking the backs of everyone else. they know they can't afford these medical treatments. how does 'socializing' it make it somehow more afforable? someone still has to pay these doctors their $250,000/year so they can buy the nice homes and german cars.

its not about making it more affordable. it just spreads the costs onto younger people.

its about enabling seniors to SPEND MORE on medical care.

why should young people live in poverty so old people can watch Wheel of Fortune for an extra 10 years? it's idiotic.

PCGyver says

The entire health-insurance industry consists simply of taking our money — and then paying us back around 80 cents on the dollar, or less. That’s all.

That is indeed the truth.

PCGyver says

Medicare’s administrative costs last year were $9 billion, compared with benefits of around $640 billion. That’s around 1.4 cents for every dollar paid out. Private insurers: around 20 times as much.

This is a misguided argument. Medicare's administrative costs are relatively low because providers bear a higher burden of the administrative costs such as, for example, claims management than they have to with private insurers, who take on more. Ask any provider who they prefer dealing with...medicare/medicaid vs private insurers.

Source - I worked for a very large health plan and provider for years where we dealt with Medicare/Medicaid reimbursements.