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Also, don't forget, men can take a taxi, across the border, for hoes in Tijuana city. There are no such venues in the SFBA, despite earning a six figure income.

How many places can you drive 45 minutes across the border and see a donkey show. SF cultural heritage pales in comparison.

Rin says

Also, don't forget, men can take a taxi, across the border, for hoes in Tijuana city

Well, I have live din San Diego. I don't know how it is now, but back then, you best not enter Tijuana. In fact they arrested a guy around that time in that area who admitted to disposing of over 200+ human bodies by dumping them in vats of acid. It is nasty drug cartel territory, not to mention the kidnapping for money brigade, who like to cut off fingers and send that as proof to family for ransom. Of course now they openly threaten the lives of our presidential candidates and our pop stars like Pitbull support that.

But apart from the south of the border issues-San Diego is lovely.

I used to go to Tijuana years ago and it was a dump back then but Adelitas is a fun place!

So is "Peanuts."

Yah San Diego is pretty sweet. The beaches are just ridiculous with fine women. Years ago I'd walk down mission beach and pass several keggers in three hundred yards. Then they passed a no alcohol on the beach law and everyone had to use hideout cups.

Quigley says

Then they passed a no alcohol on the beach law and everyone had to use hideout cups.

IMO those are some of the dumbest laws around. I just pour it into a cup and walk around with the cup.

I live in Bay Area and I'm sick of it too. What do you guys think of Seattle area? Isn't that a great option too?

Be sure to read this before moving to Seattle:
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/07/20/the-really-big-one

Very well written, and amusingly apocalyptic.

The North County is the only place to live in San Diego and the prices there are INSANE!

Heraclitusstudent says

Be sure to read this before moving to Seattle:

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/07/20/the-really-big-one

Very well written, and amusingly apocalyptic

You should read this.
http://www.wallyhood.org/2015/07/corrections-to-the-new-yorker-earthquake-story/

Ironworker says

I live in Bay Area and I'm sick of it too. What do you guys think of Seattle area? Isn't that a great option too?

Nearly all the people I knew able to tolerate it moved there from worse places.

The weather is horrid with 201 cloudy days a year of which 140 have measurable rain. That makes people depressed and mean - one guy actually hit me with his bicycle in an elevator because he thought my crutches and casted broken leg were taking up too much space.

Traffic is worse than in the SF Bay Area. On a sunny summer day it took me 3-4 hours to cover the 80 miles from downtown Seattle to Shelton. On one rainy day it took my wife 3-4 hours to travel 13 miles from Bellevue to Seattle.

I spent a few months on the East Side plus somewhat over a year in Seattle, but would have left sooner if I wasn't waiting for the signing bonus to vest which I used to reimburse my Redmond employer for over $60K in relocation costs.

drew_eckhardt says

What do you guys think of Seattle area?

drew_eckhardt says

The weather is horrid with 201 cloudy days a year of which 140 have measurable rain.

drew_eckhardt says

Traffic is worse than in the SF Bay Area.

I lived there for 6 years and agree with Ironworker completely. My reasons:
- The weather sucks ass...you really have to like rain, gloom, darkness and chilling cold to live there.
- The people are elitist snobs and very judgmental...surprising given it's supposed to be liberal and progressive.
- The women are not that attractive and overweight, but they think they're 10s because they are all the men have to choose from in that city. It's the prison syndrome.
- It's expensive. I moved from there to San Diego, and the cost of living is practically the same except for the state income tax benefit.

What's surprising is that you're surprised...

debyne says

The people are elitist snobs and very judgmental...surprising given it's supposed to be liberal and progressive.

Ironworker says

I live in Bay Area and I'm sick of it too. What do you guys think of Seattle area? Isn't that a great option too?

My opinion - Seattle is what SF area was maybe 20 years ago. If that appeals to you and you can stand the rain, go for it.

debyne says

- The people are elitist snobs and very judgmental...surprising given it's supposed to be liberal and progressive.

So in that regard he will find it exactly like SF.

Seattle and Oregon are wonderful 5 months out of the year unless you enjoy wet damp weather. I like beach areas in San Diego full of hot nubile women. No need to head to Mexico.

Here's why the Boston area beats both Seattle and San Francisco ... one, no one is running around, lying that the winters aren't cold and snowy. Then, next to let's say Chicago or Minneapolis, it's a pretty mild winter all things considered, since the less than 15 degrees mark is very common for many of those midwestern/Great Lakes cities.

For the most part, the Boston area is between 20 and 45 degrees for much of the winter, sans a few brutal dips in January or February. Wear a good jacket, the rest will take care of itself. And yes, even during the coldest days of the year, it can be bright and sunny outdoors. There's always a mix of sun, overcast, snow, and rain. There's never this continuous cloud hanging around so even the cold is buffered by the sunshine.

And finally, if one decides that the near 'burbs are too expensive, one can live on the Rte 495 beltway, and still go to Montreal on the weekends for strippers and escort action. There's no need to sit around at home and be depressed.

Maybe Detroit, a bridge ride to all the Canadian hookers you can eat.

Ceffer says

Maybe Detroit, a bridge ride to all the Canadian hookers you can eat.

This is why I'd introduced the idea of the Univ of Michigan, Ann Arbor campus, being the new IT development center of the country.

Easy access to Windsor ON for the routine strippers but then, for those who like the road trips, a 4.5 hour drive to Toronto city centre.

My gig was up. I looked into a contract with Exxon in the East Bay Area. Also Wells Fargo. But no-go.

I went home.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/VGF4ibgcHQE

holy fucking shit. why the fuck would you post this on the god damn internet?!

shut your mouth. san diego sucks. don't any mother fucker move here it's too crowded.

Blurtman says

The North County is the only place to live in San Diego and the prices there are INSANE!

100% correct. there are a few zip codes worth living in and they are highly competitive and EXPENSIVE.

landtof says

The North County is the only place to live in San Diego and the prices there are INSANE!

100% correct. there are a few zip codes worth living in and they are highly competitive and EXPENSIVE.

But isn't that true of many cities? Everyone talks about how cheap Texas is but when you look at the zip codes where the schools are good and everyone wants to live, the prices skyrocket in comparison.

Seattle, San Diego, SF?.....Is Fukushima fixed? Or is is a non issue?

debyne says

But isn't that true of many cities? Everyone talks about how cheap Texas is but when you look at the zip codes where the schools are good and everyone wants to live, the prices skyrocket in comparison.

yes, that's true - but the scaling is still insane: TX good zips can be around $600K to $800K for a glorious brand new family place (slightly less for existing), whereas SD is like $1.25M and up for something similar.

SD can be said to be at least twice the price of TX, within the prime zips. and i guess SD is the budget-friendly coastal CA city...

edit: i don't count highland park in TX, it is too elite.

debyne says

But isn't that true of many cities? Everyone talks about how cheap Texas is but when you look at the zip codes where the schools are good and everyone wants to live, the prices skyrocket in comparison.

Taken as a whole, Texas is much cheaper living than most other parts of the country. However, yes, if you're dumb enough to want to live in Austin, you'll pay a HIGH price. Parts of Dallas are a bit high but as a whole, Dallas is reasonably priced. Houston and San Antonio have some high priced areas but again, overall, they are reasonably priced. As far as schools, for the most part (and this holds true for much of the country) if you want a good school, you pay for a private one.

TX has sky high prop tax.
up to 3% depends on area.
CA is 1 to 1.25%

ALSO there will be zero appreciation other than 'rate of inflation' in TX real estate. So forget about getting a 100k HELOC one year after buying with low down. (pretty much that is normal in CA).

The benefits of stable real estate prices are probably worth it to many people who dont have a 'im not getting rich fast enough/CA mentality'

Yeah it's expensive in SD but still less than LA or Bay Area. Texas has ice storms, hundred days plus of brutal humid heat, giant bugs.
But it's cheap. If I had to deal with that I'd live in Florida.

PockyClipsNow says

So forget about getting a 100k HELOC one year after buying with low down. (pretty much that is normal in CA).

Is this really true in literal sense? Do you have actual statistics on this?

landtof says

yes, that's true - but the scaling is still insane: TX good zips can be around $600K to $800K for a glorious brand new family place (slightly less for existing), whereas SD is like $1.25M and up for something similar.

I agree that the scaling is different, but you're talking about flat, ugly, humid Texas vs beautiful San Diego...hard to argue which is a better place to live at least from a weather and scenery perspective.

But I can find beautiful homes in the Poway school district for $750K-$850K...$1.25M are McMansions.

PockyClipsNow says

TX has sky high prop tax.

up to 3% depends on area.

CA is 1 to 1.25%

Property taxes are similar in TX and Silicon Valley bay area

$375K x 3% = $11,250/year
$900K* x 1% = $11,250/year

* a 3/2 1959 ranch just sold for $920K in my slummy Sunnyvale neighborhood. It'd cost a lot more some place nice.

although here you also pay a 9.3% marginal income tax rate versus 0 there.

PockyClipsNow says

ALSO there will be zero appreciation other than 'rate of inflation' in TX real estate. So forget about getting a 100k HELOC one year after buying with low down. (pretty much that is normal in

I don't know about your investments but I've gained a 30% increase over a few years on San Antonio houses.

debyne says

I agree that the scaling is different, but you're talking about flat, ugly, humid Texas vs beautiful San Diego...hard to argue which is a better place to live at least from a weather and scenery perspective.

It's a huge state. My impression of the North is as you describe but if you know where you're going there is lots of great things to see. The hill country in the center of the state is anything but flat.

landtof says

holy fucking shit. why the fuck would you post this on the god damn internet?!

shut your mouth. san diego sucks. don't any mother fucker move here it's too crowded.

Yes, get out of the bay area and move to Texas. It sucks here in SD. Whatever you do don't move here.

PockyClipsNow says

CA is 1 to 1.25%

don't forget about mello-roos, and the certain future of the water usage tax as well as the jerry brown douche-bag environmental progressive california asshole tax.

and as already mentioned, there is 0% income tax in TX.

just_passing_through says

It sucks here in SD. Whatever you do don't move here.

it gets worse by the day, i swear. the city literally can't build enough to keep up. when i first moved here the pop was around 1.1M and now it is 3.3M.

add to that all the zoning and land use restrictions, as well as crabby boomers who think an over-crowded city needs to retain its "charming small town neighborhood feel" (translation: only we the blessed boomers can have houses) and you have a shit storm.

debyne says

beautiful San Diego...hard to argue which is a better place to live at least from a weather and scenery perspective.

this reminds me of the The Matrix, where all the people are plugged into VR in a vat of slime.

yes, the beauty of california is undeniable, but the politicians and the progressive coastal elites have made this place insufferable and humiliating to reside in if your AGI is under $300k. and they are sucking down tax dollars for pet projects and incentivizing organizations like fucking tesla motors - a brand that caters to the very same cronies, and offloads all the jobs to other states (god forbid anyone manufacture anything in CA - it would pollute the whole place and ruin it for our trust fund grandchildren!!!)

consider this delusion, when speaking of poway - a place that provides none of the coastal goodness.