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APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

sent the banks off of the tracks since, say, the Garn St-Germain was just a bad idea being peddled by industry.

That part he has right as that is when the bank starting centralizing. It is also when the banks had to demonstrate that they were "good citizens" and needed "public organizations" to vouch for them ergo the CRA. Which was started by Carter and completely morphed by Clinton.

Once again this book explains it: "Fragile by Design", written by a Columbia business school professor.

sbh says

and NATURAL law! Stand up when I say it, mutt!

And then there is the alcohol addled brain...

indigenous says

bob2356 says

and the only public union is cops? yep perfect reasoning, NOT

Sactly, I did not say that but you somehow inferred it, as goes more along with your "I will point out your illogic". Funny most of the time you are the one suffering from this common malady.

You said about cops "The vast majority vote their pocket book, IOW Democrat." and "Ds get elected by public unions" and "it stands to reason" that cops are voting democrat. There really isn't much logic or connection there anyway, but the implication (the only thing available since you are never willing to stand up and make a definative statement under any circumstance, I can see why you would use Aquinas and Aristotle) is that cops are voting in democrats to office as a quid pro quo for generous benefits and salaries. The logic problem is there is no evidence at all the cops are actually voting democrat. Your logic goes unions are democratic voters> cops belong to unions> cops are voting democrat. I realize you really aren't very good a logic but even you should see the fallacy in this.

Post on #6 :

indigenous says

HEY YOU says

The Right wing needs to get off it's ass and demand charges of treason for any R/C/T that receives any form of assistance funded by tax dollars.

The vast majority vote their pocket book, IOW Democrat.

And post # 11:

indigenous says

Really only public unions.

bob2356 says

I realize you really aren't very good a logic but even you should see the fallacy in this.

As should you realize that it is a reasonable assumption.

indigenous says

Post on #6 :

The topic was police, everyone was talking about police, HEY YOU was satirizing police, you were clearly talking about police, you responded to my comment about proving police voted D. Don't be a weasel, even though that's what you do best.

bob2356 says

The topic was police, everyone was talking about police, HEY YOU was satirizing police, you were clearly talking about police, you responded to my comment about proving police voted D. Don't be a weasel, even though that's what you do best.

Don't get upset Bobby...

Jimbo in SF says

So the cops are GOP voters, while taking advantage of their union benefits.

I think you're making a silly generalization.

I would be shocked if less than 60% of the cops in SF are democrat voters. Even more shoced if they were actually majority republican. How many of these SF cop friends do you have ?

You guys all need to stop talking about this. The Port Authority are not a bunch of police officers. They are political appointees masking as ones. It doesn't matter which way cops in SF vote. This is New Jersey and New York. The port authority has historically been a pit of political appointees from Bergen and Hudson county in NJ along with the city government of New York. The majority of political members in these areas are democrat.

The makeup of the Port Authority of NY/NJ has nothing to do with real cops and definitely has nothing to do with anything in San Francisco. Regardless of someone's views, it is a reasonable assumption that most Port Authority members are Democrats and it has nothing to do with which way police unions vote.

theoakman says

The Port Authority are not a bunch of police officers. They are political appointees masking as ones. It doesn't matter which way cops in SF vote. This is New Jersey and New York. The port authority has historically been a pit of political appointees from Bergen and Hudson county in NJ along with the city government of New York

WTF are you babbling about. PA recruits, hires and sends their cops to a police academy just like anyone else. PA cops aren't political appointees. The PA police are something like the 20th largest police force in the country. I read somewhere over 700 million people and god only knows how much cargo go through PA facilities a year. I think dealing with that volume of people and property qualifies them as real cops.

An awful lot of "reasonable" assumptions going on without any basis other than I said so.

bob2356 says

theoakman says

The Port Authority are not a bunch of police officers. They are political appointees masking as ones. It doesn't matter which way cops in SF vote. This is New Jersey and New York. The port authority has historically been a pit of political appointees from Bergen and Hudson county in NJ along with the city government of New York

WTF are you babbling about. PA recruits, hires and sends their cops to a police academy just like anyone else. PA cops aren't political appointees. The PA police are something like the 20th largest police force in the country. I read somewhere over 700 million people and god only knows how much cargo go through PA facilities a year. I think dealing with that volume of people and property qualifies them as real cops.

An awful lot of "reasonable" assumptions going on without any basis other than I said so.

You don't seem to be following. You don't get a job as a "port authority police officer" unless you are a relative or friend of someone already in the department or a politician. They don't do any real police work. They move cones. They don't "deal with volume". They sit in their cars and do nothing. It's all for show. Some people have gone through those tolls illegally and essentially skipped over 100k in tolls through their lifetime. Do you think you rack up 200k in overtime by actually doing work?

"You read". That's exactly the problem. Anyone who's lived within 5 miles of the GWB knows that the whole agency is a joke and a money pit.

theoakman says

You don't seem to be following. You don't get a job as a "port authority police officer" unless you are a relative or friend of someone already in the department or a politician

I dont' have to follow that bullshit. Ok you know so much, prove that.

theoakman says

"You read". That's exactly the problem. Anyone who's lived within 5 miles of the GWB knows that the whole agency is a joke and a money pit.

Yes I read. I didn't have time to go count everyone going through PA properties. Perhaps you would like to give it a try for a year of so and report back to us if the count is wrong.

You are saying you've lived within 5 miles of the GWB? So have I, starting probably before you were born and as recently as 2001, on both sides of the river. I don't know the whole agency is a joke and a money pit. There's plenty of political patronage no doubt. They also manage billions of dollars in public assets including 6 airports including 2 of the busiest in the country, 7 major ports, and a bunch of bridges and tunnels. Usually managing them pretty well considering how well anything else in NY/NJ runs.

What your beef with the PA, your sister get boffed by someone from the PA or something?

What your beef with the PA, your sister get boffed by someone from the PA or something?

Lol, what's my beef? The fact that it's gonna cost $30 to cross the GWB by 2020 at this rate.

What's with you and your fanatical defending of an agency that pays out 200k in overtime to an "officer"?

If you want similar comments, just read the comment section on the article from nj.com.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2014/12/police_dominate_port_authority_overtime_list_top_53_recipients_are_cops.html

Oh damn...you pulled out the before you were born card. And FYI, "as recently as 2001" is more like "as far back as."

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

These guys must need a good deal of specialized training just to know what to do in situations in which they have to distinguish jurisdictions, say, US Customs versus CBP, ICE and Postal Inspector, etc. Just making sense of your story and figuring out what part of it you own and other agencies have to manage must take some informed judgement.

I couldn't handle it: shoot someone for being black in the wrong township and some asshole will inject race into it! And which doughnut shops and hookers belong to which agency?

Then there's pronouncing "Poe-ut uh-THAH-tee" like the genetic-trash descendant of 19th-century old Europe rejects which you are.

Scorsese should make a movie about this, with the thickest possible accents, the longest voice-overs, and multiple period musical numbers disguised as plot development. Gritty, tough, tough, gritty...

"Jimmy and me, see, we dint know how gooud we hahd it. I grabbed the vig on the shippin' containuhs while Jimmy gave the inspectahs the run-around. It was like we was robbin' a bank wid no cahps arahnd!"

theoakman says

Lol, what's my beef? The fact that it's gonna cost $30 to cross the GWB by 2020 at this rate.

What's with you and your fanatical defending of an agency that pays out 200k in overtime to an "officer"?

If you want similar comments, just read the comment section on the article from nj.com.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2014/12/police_dominate_port_authority_overtime_list_top_53_recipients_are_cops.html

Yea, and everything else in NY/NJ is going to cost just as much. It's the price for living there and always has been "as far back as". Stop whining or move somewhere else.

I'm not fanatically defending anything. I said they do a pretty good job. Not a fantastic job, but pretty good. Did you actually read your own article btw? It says the PA felt that paying overtime was cheaper than bringing on new people. Maybe that was a good call, maybe not. But realistically 190 million in overtime in an 8 billion dollar budget isn't the end of the world. It makes nice headlines though.