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It's silly to think that we can forecast such things as global climate in advance.
It certainly feels like it. Today our highs are in the high teens and low in the single digits. Though nice to look at the fresh snow. I am just wondering what jan/Feb will look like.
"The data is pretty solid," Casey says. "If you look at the 100-year global temperature chart, you look at the steep drop off we've had since 2007, it's the steepest drop in global temperatures in the last hundred years."
If the guy is so certain, why doesn't he make a model based on measured solar activity that first explains the lack of warming these past 10 yrs, second predicts how it will change moving forward.
The world is known to respect laws of physic, right?
As air and ocean temperatures, the earth's crust begins changing, leading to more volcanic activity and earthquakes. Casey notes that the worst earthquake to strike the continental U.S. in modern times was in 1812 at New Madrid, Missouri – during the last great solar minimum.
Yes 1 earthquake in 1812 proves the sun affects the "earth's crust" and cold leads to earthquake.
Bravo.
Translation: I want corporations to pollute with no end because it increases short-term profits even though it harms long-term profits and economics as well as health, the food supply, political stability, etc. I hope that showing a "40-year cold spell" will convince enough dumb people that the overall temperature of the Earth isn't climbing even though anyone with half a brain will see that the two have nothing to do with each other.
Um, if we are truly entering a 40 year cold spell, I'd have to think that is related to global cooling.
Why don't we just wait and see what happens? If calamity strikes, I'm smart enough and resourceful enough to survive, so I'm not worried.
Translation: I want corporations to pollute with no end because it increases short-term profits even though it harms long-term profits and economics as well as health, the food supply, political stability, etc. I hope that showing a "40-year cold spell" will convince enough dumb people that the overall temperature of the Earth isn't climbing even though anyone with half a brain will see that the two have nothing to do with each other.
Correction to translation: he is selling a book. End of story.
Eek, with windchill it is close to -10F today. California dreaming !!!! LOL!!
Eek, with windchill it is close to -10F today. California dreaming !!!! LOL!!
82 today :)
Clearly Al Gore believes this Story in his subconscious mind. He does not think ocean levels will rise any time soon. His purchase of $9 million oceanfront villa in Montecito, CA shows that.
What the F does it have to do with Al Gore?
He won Nobel peace prize in 2007 for his work on climate change. Some people regard him as an expert on these issues :).
because you want him to.
If the guy is so certain, why doesn't he make a model based on measured solar activity that first explains the lack of warming these past 10 yrs, second predicts how it will change moving forward.
Correction to translation: he is selling a book. End of story.
And it's going to be very successful with the dimbulbs that want to believe him. gsr says
Clearly Al Gore believes this Story in his subconscious mind. He does not think ocean levels will rise any time soon. His purchase of $9 million oceanfront villa in Montecito, CA shows that.
Right. If he had bought land on some Island where a couple inches of increase (or less in his lifetime) was going to make a difference, you might have a point.
THe amazing thing is that the trend in solar impact on climate says that it should have been getting colder for the last 40 years, but the trends have been that it's getting warmer.
In other words the warming trend has been greatly muted by the solar cycle we've been in for several decades.
Below freezing here, which is not normal for November. I blame global cooling caused by solar activity.
It's all Al Gore's fault!!!
IOW, coal generated heat has been saving the day for the past 20 years.
who knew the chinese had it right all along?
THe amazing thing is that the trend in solar impact on climate says that it should have been getting colder for the last 40 years, but the trends have been that it's getting warmer.
In other words the warming trend has been greatly muted by the solar cycle we've been in for several decades.
THe amazing thing is that the trend in solar impact on climate says that it should have been getting colder for the last 40 years, but the trends have been that it's getting warmer.
Then why is it getting warmer on Mars?
Below freezing here, which is not normal for November. I blame global cooling caused by solar activity.
Another genius who refuses to understand that local weather and long term global climate change are two very very different things.
Correction to translation: he is selling a book. End of story.
I meant zzyzzx, not Clayton B. Reid.
Below freezing here, which is not normal for November. I blame global cooling caused by solar activity.
Another genius who refuses to understand that local weather and long term global climate change are two very very different things.
Haven't you been hearing this for years now? The GOP's lap dogs, feeling empowered after the past 2 weeks, are at it again. Every time they have to put a jacket on: "scientists are liars!!!!"
I don't recall any discussion of this last month:
September 2014 is now the hottest month recorded since 1880.
In a statement released Monday, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) announced that last month broke the global heat record by clocking in at an average of 60.3 degrees Fahrenheit.
This announcement comes after NASA, which uses different measurements, also crowned September as a record-breaking month.
Last May, June, and August all broke the global heat record as well, and 2014 is now on track to become the warmest year since record keeping began 135 years ago.
http://www.weather.com/news/september-hottest-global-record-20141020
Leave it to CIC to illustrate the sheer stupidity of conservatives. Every fall and winter it's the same damn talking point: it's cold outside, so climate change is a hoax.
Is it any surprise that The Daily Show constantly mocks this imbeciles? The real reason conservatives loathe The Daily Show and The Colbert Report is that those programs show conservatives to be the morons they are.
http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/4bdpjs/the-global-warming-hoax
http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/18l8gy/unusually-large-snowstorm
(Too bad, PatNet doesn't handle embedding Daily Show videos.)
Conservative hate in 3, 2, 1...
Evidence to back up their claims in infinity, infinity - 1, infinity - 2...
Every time they have to put a jacket on: "scientists are liars!!!!"
And don't forget the Pentagon. Those hippie pot-smokers are also claiming that climate change is a grave threat to national security.
Every fall and winter it's the same damn talking point: it's cold outside, so climate change is a hoax.
It's normally not very cold here until January. I.E. - we used to have fall weather up until the first few days in January around here. Now we get winter weather in November. I'd call that cooling.
The declining solar activity is def real. If that is a real trend with legs like this guy believes, global warming will be history. Big if of course.
The real reason conservatives loathe The Daily Show and The Colbert Report
There's a reason those shows are on a network called Comedy Central....
Yes, Republican politics is comically bad. Notice how you could not refute a single fact on any episode.
Eek, with windchill it is close to -10F today. California dreaming !!!! LOL!!
82 today :)
Had to turn on the car air conditioning yesterday. Today is even warmer.
You get what you pay for. :) :)
We also welcome everyone to visit So Cal during the holidays. Please bring money. :)
What the F does it have to do with Al Gore?
He won Nobel peace prize in 2007 for his work on climate change. Some people regard him as an expert on these issues :).
People who think shooting a messenger (among many others) changes the message.
Morons.
What the F does it have to do with Al Gore?
He won Nobel peace prize in 2007 for his work on climate change. Some people regard him as an expert on these issues :).
It's always the same: Idiots watch too much of their favorite propaganda outlet, get mindlessly excited about some specious narratives imprinted on them, then come on this board full of "passionate intensity" and regurgitate the stupid idea - still without the slightest hint of critical thinking.
Did they think by themselves Al Gore is part of a worldwide satanist conspiracy to punish Americans?
No... It's just regurgitated shit.
Then why is it getting warmer on Mars?
If you believe that, then how do you square it with (a) your belief that Earth is cooling and (b) your belief that solar activity is the determinant.
You're arguing with yourself.
From the site of the SSRC, Casey's front company:
In addition to the cold weather of this new climate era, the SSRC also believes along with other scientists and geologists, that there is strong likelihood of record volcanic eruptions and earthquakes that will take place during this next climate change. All of these predicted events are the result of the recently started 'solar hibernation,' a dramatic reduction in the energy output of the Sun.
Heh-heh. Quack. Quack quack!
Its staff of Supporting Researchers and Associate Scientists in the SSRC's sister company, The International Earthquake and Volcano Prediction Center (IEVPC) , includes some of the world's best researchers in the fields of solar physics, climate research, and geology including earthquake science and volcanism. For the IEVPC go to www.ievpc.org
Quack quack quack!
Interesting animation:
http://www.vox.com/2014/11/19/7246067/nasa-animation-carbon-dioxide
Interesting animation:
http://www.vox.com/2014/11/19/7246067/nasa-animation-carbon-dioxide
I have heard of Continental Drift, but never Continental Flatus.
Interesting animation:
http://www.vox.com/2014/11/19/7246067/nasa-animation-carbon-dioxide
More or less what CIC, zzyzzx and the captain are thinking about this:
"Aww there the fancy shmancy nancy boy scientists go again with all their book learnin, and their ciphering, and their computers, acting like they're better than me just because they have a much higher IQ and way more edumacation than me."
Interesting animation:
http://www.vox.com/2014/11/19/7246067/nasa-animation-carbon-dioxide
More or less what CIC, zzyzzx and the captain are thinking about this:
"Aww there the fancy shmancy nancy boy scientists go again with all their book learnin, and their ciphering, and their computers, acting like they're better than me just because they have a much higher IQ and way more edumacation than me."
hahaha, naaa they are already scouring the internet for the same graphic on the global spread of Ebola.
http://www.newsmax.com/newswidget/dark-winter-cold-global-cooling/2014/11/16/id/607672/
Climatologist: 30-Year Cold Spell Strikes Earth
With nasty cold fronts thrusting an icy and early winter across the continental U.S. — along with last winter described by USA Today as "one of the snowiest, coldest, most miserable on record" — climatologist John L. Casey thinks the weather pattern is here to stay for decades to come.
In fact, Casey, a former space shuttle engineer and NASA consultant, is out with the provocative book "Dark Winter: How the Sun Is Causing a 30-Year Cold Spell," which warns that a radical shift in global climate is underway, and that Al Gore and other environmentalists have it completely wrong. [Get "Dark Winter" with Free Offer – Click Here]
The earth, he says, is cooling, and cooling fast.
And unless the scientific community and political leaders act soon, cold, dark days are ahead.
Casey says the evidence is clear that the earth is rapidly growing colder because of diminished solar activity.
He says trends indicate we could be headed for colder temperatures similar to those seen in the late 1700s and early 1800s when the sun went into a "solar minimum" — a phenomenon with significantly reduced solar activity, including solar flares and sunspots.
If he's right, that would be very bad news.
"Dark Winter" posits that a 30-year period of cold has already begun. Frigid temperatures, and food shortages that inevitably result, could lead to riots and chaos.
Casey tells Newsmax, "All you have to do is trust natural cycles, and follow the facts; and that leads you to the inevitable conclusion that the sun controls the climate, and that a new cold era has begun." Casey is president of the Space and Science Research Corp., an Orlando, Fla., climate research firm.
His new book debunks global warming orthodoxy. For over a decade, he reports, the planet's oceans have been cooling. And since 2007, the atmospheric temperature has been cooling as well.
"The data is pretty solid," Casey says. "If you look at the 100-year global temperature chart, you look at the steep drop off we've had since 2007, it's the steepest drop in global temperatures in the last hundred years."
So how can the media and scientific elites make a case for global warming when it's actually cooling?
Casey suggests climate-change theorists have simply wedded themselves to the wrong theory, namely, that global temperatures respond to the level of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.
Any scientist suggesting otherwise is castigated as a heretic, though there are other prominent scientists who support Casey.
Noted Russian astrophysicist Habibullo I. Abdussamatov has argued that a new, mini-ice age has begun, though Casey doesn't go that far.
He does agree with Abdussamatov that the real driver of global climate is solar activity, namely sunspots. These correspond to shifts in global temperature with a greater than 90 percent accuracy, he says.
The environmental left focuses instead on ever-rising greenhouse emissions, suggesting nature is just taking a bit of a breather before the upward march in temperatures ineluctably resumes.
"There are two fundamental flaws with that," Casey says. "No. 1, the greenhouse-gas theory, and the global climate models that they produced, never permitted a pause. As long as CO2 levels were going up, the only thing that could happen was global temperatures could go up. That has not happened.
"No. 2, there could absolutely be no cooling, much less a pause. And yet we've been cooling for 11 years now."
The recent polar vortex that sent temperatures across the Midwest plunging to sub-zero records is not an aberration, Casey says.
If "Dark Winter" is right, that means the nation is busily preparing for the wrong calamity.
"We don't have 10 years," Casey warns. "We've squandered during President Obama's administration eight years . . . and we didn't have eight years to squander."
The worst of the cooling cycle, Casey predicts, will hit in the late 2020s and the early 2030s.
Food riots will break out, demand for heating oil will spike, and the failure of the corn crop will put the squeeze on ethanol.
He even predicts the United States will ban agricultural exports to feed its own citizens.
When Casey developed his theories in 2007, he emerged with several predictions.
Rising temperatures would begin to reverse themselves within three years. The sun would enter a phase of reduced activity he called "solar hibernation." And oceanic and atmospheric temperatures would enter a long decline.
So far, all of Casey's predictions have come true. He says, "My theory tells you when it will be cold . . . and it is the cold that kills."
Casey also posits that a long-term cold spell will have dire effects on the earth's geology.
As air and ocean temperatures, the earth's crust begins changing, leading to more volcanic activity and earthquakes. Casey notes that the worst earthquake to strike the continental U.S. in modern times was in 1812 at New Madrid, Missouri – during the last great solar minimum.
The climate changes also will affect human activity and may be a prelude to revolutionary politics. He says the French Revolution took place at the beginning of the last solar minimum in 1789.
"It could be one of the reasons Putin is so eager to get Ukraine," Casey says. "For many decades before Ukraine became independent, it was the primary source of wheat for the Soviet Union during cold weather times. Putin must have the wheat of Ukraine for the new cold era."
Casey has a worried look as he talks about the revelations in "Dark Winter."
"There is no human on earth, much less here in the U.S., who has experienced the depth and duration of cold we're about to experience — it's that serious," he says.
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