patrick.net

As I mentioned before. THis guy is a friend of my friend. He (my friend) has verified that this is a true story.

LIke I said, its not by intentions to get this guy money, but rather to point out what has happened to this particular guy

Everyone are still waiting for you to explain what happened, the story as told doesn't make sense. It shouldn't be that hard to ask your friend, the one who knows the true story that you brought into this, how this is all possible and the details. The fact you dance around this like Baryshnikov doing nutcracker makes me even more suspicious of this entire post.

39 Miike 2014 Feb 2, 10:59am

I sent an email to the team captain on that donation page, respectfully asking why Mike Choi doesn't get new insurance. So far, no answer. I'll let you know if she answers. Otherwise, I'm assuming it's a scam.

Probably what you should have done in the first place, rather than being so quick to accusing him of being a liar/scammer...

Listen, in all honesty, the only reason why I even write back to you guys is because I think its total bullshit how so many people on this forum are so quick to judge and make accusations without ANY evidence. If you have hard evidence and proof, thats one thing... but no one here can be sure either way whether this is true or not. So why not just give a benefit of the doubt or just not say anything to that matter... I just find it bizarre how so many of you with so little information can make a judgement and then furthermore slander this guy.

40 Miike 2014 Feb 2, 11:03am

You ask what proof we have it's a scam. The proof is that the situation described is not possible. I'm not interested in all your "maybe this" "maybe that" bullshit, Miike. If any of those things you made up are true, they should have been written on the donation page rather than the impossible fictional situation that is there.

Unless you can specifically state why that is proof, your argument here is pointless.

I brought up these "maybes" ONLY to prove we cannot and do not know what is going on... If you read carefully, it wasnt to say that this was the case for him. Even if these things were true, why do you insist they should have been on the donation page?

41 Miike 2014 Feb 2, 11:08am

bob2356 says

Everyone are still waiting for you to explain what happened, the story as told doesn't make sense.

What makes you think I have the knowledge to explain this. I have explained before that I do not have the details to this story. This link was simply placed on a friends facebook page. I asked if this was true and was told it was. that is that and nothing else.

What exactly about the story doesnt make sense to you? Please explain.

bob2356 says

The fact you dance around this like Baryshnikov doing nutcracker makes me even more suspicious of this entire post.

Im not dancing around anything. As I have mentioned several times before, I do not know the story in detail. that is not the point. THe point is that neither I nor ANY of you guys know the story, HOWEVER YOU guys are the ones making accusations and slandering this guy WITHOUT much or any information.
If you are accusing and slandering this guy, then the burden to prove your accusations are on YOU, not me.
MY entire point on this subject is, dont call this guy a liar or a scammer because really you dont know him nor the facts. You know what? I dont know him nor much of the facts either, but again, im not the one making these accusations.

42

Ceffer 2014 Feb 2, 11:49am

Evidence? I don't need no stinkin' evidence!

Evidence is for wusses who don't have the courage of their convictions.

43

TheOriginalSBH 2014 Feb 2, 11:51am

Yes.i agree with you because you have two eyes...

I just find it bizarre how so many of you with so little information can make a judgement and then furthermore slander this guy.

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elliemae 2014 Feb 2, 2:47pm

How big of an asshole are you for slandering a person you have never met without any evidence of what you claim he is doing?? SOunds like you are the asshole... Although I initially started this thread to as a criticism of Obamacare, I find that the majority of my time here as been trying to defend this guy from you and homeboy's slander and criticism...

Please unbunch your panties. I haven't slandered anyone. I've pointed out the inconsistencies in this story, which are certainly greater than the consistencies in the story.

You say that you initially started this thread as a criticism of "Obamacare," and it's a piss-poor example of problems with the program. Slander is where a person says something that isn't true, while libel is where a person writes something that isn't true.

Homeboy and I (as well as several other posters) were simply questioning this guy's motives, his story, and your unwavering support of something you read on the interwebs. You became guilty of libel at the point that you called us "assholes."

Look at it this way: if I were to say that you are either the world's most naÃ¯ve person to believe a story about someone you've never met and who has posted no verifiable information in order to authenticate the validity of the man's claims, you're incredibly stupid to believe it, you are a scammer who is attempting to gain support for your imaginary persona, or that you are an idiot who is so blinded by your hatred of the Affordable Healthcare Act that you would use such an asinine example of another persons claims to further your message - well, that might be libel.

I mean, if I were to say that. Which I didn't, 'cause it was merely an example...

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Homeboy 2014 Feb 3, 4:30am

I knew it...

I received an answer from the team captain:

Thank you so much for your question. As for Mike he was kicked out of his insurance because of the Obamacare. I'm not too familiar with the details about it but I know that currently he is trying to be approved for medi-cal since he has been unable to work for several months and has no income. I believe he is heading toward the final stages and has been close to death but God has kept him with his family. My hopes is to raise as much money as we can but anything even if we only raised $400 we are happy with whatever we can do. Hopefully the medi-cal gets approved soon so that we may at least proper hospice care soon. Thank you for your interest and have a blessed day!

I'm not convinced it's an outright scam, but it's certainly misleading. I mean, how do you ask for $500,000 and not know the details of the case you're raising the money for?

But here's the problem I have with your thread, Miike: You were so eager to turn this into an anti-Obamacare rant because of your obvious political proclivities, but this is actually an Obamacare WIN.

This guy is going to get Medi-Cal, which is FREE. Had he remained on his old policy, he would still be paying an insurance company for NOTHING, when he could be getting care and not having to pay at all for the insurance. I have no idea why he didn't immediately apply for Medi-Cal as soon as it was available to him, but that's HIS fault, not Obamacare's.

I just wish she had told the truth, that he is going to get Medi-Cal, but he was late in applying so he doesn't have it yet. Instead, she said he "can't get treatment" because of Obamacare, which isn't even a distortion of the truth; it's just an outright lie.

You can say I'm "defending" Obamacare all you like. I guess if you rabidly and insanely hate it for no good reason, it would seem to you that's what I'm doing. But really, I'm just tired of all the lies. I would be the first to admit there are problems with ACA, but if it were truly as horrible as some of you make it out to be, you wouldn't have to tell lies to make it sound worse than it is.

I actually hope this guy gets assistance. I'm just pissed at the people who are using a tragic situation to take a cheap political shot.

46 Miike 2014 Feb 3, 5:54am

I haven't slandered anyone.

You called this guy a scammer, without any proof. In fact it appears homeboy has emailed the person and has verified that this situation not a scam.

Homeboy and I (as well as several other posters) were simply questioning this
guy's motives, his story, and your unwavering support of something you read on
the interwebs.

Im sorry but you, homeboy and others were not simply questioning this guy. You guys went much further calling him a liar and a scammer.

Furthermore, my point was not to provide "unwavering support" for this guy, but rather to make you guys question your wnwavering criticism of a situation in which you have NO knowledge about.

you are a scammer who is attempting to gain support for your imaginary persona

oh ok.. so now I am a scammer.

Ok so now Homeboy got a response and it does not seem like it is a scam.... what an ASSHOLE you are. Even if you didnt believe this story, you didnt have to call him a scammer...

47 Miike 2014 Feb 3, 6:02am

I knew it...

you knew what?

You were so eager to turn this into an anti-Obamacare rant

You are right, this was originally an anti-obamacare thread. I dont deny this. I do not agree with obamacare so when I saw a person lose his insurance because of obamacare, I highlighted this. You do exactly the same, when you see anything good about obamacare you highlight them. This thread however evolved into more than a rant on Obamacare. Many, especially you, were so quick to attack and criticize this guy. As a result, the overwhelming majority of my responses has been in defense of this guy from your criticism, rather than me criticizing obamacare.

but this is actually an Obamacare WIN.

How? He lost his insurance in the middle of his ongoing treatment for cancer. WTF??!?!?! are you that blind and insane?

Oh wait...Homeboy says

This guy is going to get Medi-Cal, which is FREE. Had he remained on his old
policy, he would still be paying an insurance company for NOTHING, when he could
be getting care and not having to pay at all for the insurance.

Ok so he is getting free medi-cal. You must not know the medical system. I wouldnt take medi-cal even if it was free. The care you get as a medi-cal patient is HORRIBLE. When you say things like this, it makes it pretty clear you have no idea about medi-cal and how horrible the care you get with medi-cal. Trust, me I would be willing to bet a lot of money that he would rather pay to keep his old insurance than get medi-cal.

I have no idea why he didn't immediately apply for Medi-Cal as soon as it was
available to him, but that's HIS fault, not Obamacare's.

Do you know that he didnt? Considering how backlogged and slow the california govt is, I wouldnt be surprised that it took a long time... Even if he didnt, he shouldnt have lost his insurance to beging with.

You can say I'm "defending" Obamacare all you like.

You do, in all your posts this is all you do. You wont ever admit anything bad about obamacre, even when people lose their insurance during the middle of their cancer treatments...

48 Miike 2014 Feb 3, 6:12am

BTW homeboy,

what lies did I tell to make obamacare look worse than it is???

Furthermore, now that you emailed and got your answer, shouldnt you apologize for your actions?

How does it feel to have been calling a man dying of cancer a scammer and a liar? Like I said before, my main point in responding to you and others was that NONE of us really know whats going on... therefore no one should have been so quick to judge and criticize.

Your posts were without any compassionate, consideration, thought and it was certainly inhumane. I understand your zealous fervor for obamacare, but this is no way to act regardless of whether this guy criticizes obamacare or not...

49

Homeboy 2014 Feb 3, 10:34am

No Miike, YOU should apologize for politicizing a man's battle with cancer and turning it into an unwarranted attack on Obamacare.

Facts:

1. He is planning to go on MediCal.
2. Rather than being worse off, he is in fact BETTER off now, since he will be getting free medical insurance.
3. It is a LIE that he "can't get treatment because of Obamacare".
4. The fact that he lost his job and doesn't have any income has nothing to do with Obamacare.

You didn't care about any of these facts, and you had absolutely no interest in finding out the truth. You were quite content to use a lie to falsely criticize Obamacare, because of your own personal bias.

In fact, you are STILL lying. You still pretend that this guy's predicament is the fault of Obamacare, when in fact he can now get BETTER insurance for LESS money. And has the thread title changed? Nope, still the same.

It's still a scam, Miike. I'm just giving her the benefit of the doubt since she took the time to answer my email. I still think the situation is misrepresented, but I will give her the benefit of the doubt that she is simply ignorant and misinformed rather than being deliberately deceitful, although I'm probably being far too generous here.

You need to take some of that faux outrage and turn it inward.

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Homeboy 2014 Feb 3, 10:54am

You wont ever admit anything bad about obamacre

I say Obamacare has problems all the time. I even said it in this very thread. I don't think you know how to read very well. I just don't make up fake things like you do.

51 Miike 2014 Feb 3, 11:05am

No Miike, YOU should apologize for politicizing a man's battle with cancer and turning it into an unwarranted attack on Obamacare.

Still cant take responsibility eh? Homeboy does the only thing homeboy knows how to do... If I have politicized this mans battle with cancer (which you have been claiming vehemently was a scam) by reporting how a man lost his insurance in the MIDST of his fight with cancer... then im guilty. You are guilty of worse, by defending obamacare through slandering this guys, claiming that he is lying just to hurt obamacare. Who is worse? Ill will take my part of the blame, can you?

Facts:

1. THe man has cancer and you have been proclaiming this whole time he is an liar and a scammer

1. He is planning to go on MediCal.

2. He plans to get medical - why? Because he was kicked off his insurance because of requirements made by Obamacare.

2. Rather than being worse off, he is in fact BETTER off now, since he will be getting free medical insurance.

3. Are you serious? He lost his insurance in the MIDST of his care and currently has no care. How is that good???? Furthermore, now his only way to care is through medi-cal, the worst piece of crap insurance you can have. do you have ANY idea what kind of SHIT care he will get with medi-cal? YOu obviously have no idea because if you did, you would realize how F'in stupid that comment is. Ask anyone in health care and see if medi-cal is a good insurance plan. Im sure someone dying of cancer is thrilled about getting free medi-cal while losing his private insurance...

3. It is a LIE that he "can't get treatment because of Obamacare".

4. Perhaps he can get treatment once he gets in with medi-cal, but the fact at this moment is that he has no insurance cuz he has been discontinued DUE to obamacare. So until he can get on medi-cal this apparently seems to be true..

4. The fact that he lost his job and doesn't have any income has nothing to do with Obamacare.

5. no, but did anyone even claim this? now you are just making shit up.

You didn't care about any of these facts, and you had absolutely no interest in finding out the truth. You were quite content to use a lie to falsely criticize Obamacare, because of your own personal bias.

Unfortunately you didnt list any fact. Furthermore you found out the truth when you emailed that person... and the truth was that you were 100% wrong on this - this is not a scam and this is a real situation. Yet you still claim someone is lying? What did I lie about? I made NO claims...

In fact, you are STILL lying. You still pretend that this guy's predicament is the fault of Obamacare, when in fact he can now get BETTER insurance for LESS money. And has the thread title changed? Nope, still the same.

HIs predicament is the fault of Obamacare... he LOST his insurance because of Obamacare requirements, like millions of other people.

BETTER insurance? WHO is lying now? WTF you are seriously dumb haha. Medical is better insurance? I dont even need to know what his private insurance was... ANY private insurance is better than medi-cal.

It's still a scam, Miike.

still cant admit it... so you will call this guy a scammer even still...
THe person you emailed may be ignorant and misinformed, but this has not been the argument you have been making. THe argument you have been making is that this was a scam... grow up and grow a pair... admit when you are wrong.

52

Homeboy 2014 Feb 3, 12:30pm

Homeboy says

3. It is a LIE that he "can't get treatment because of Obamacare".

4. Perhaps he can get treatment once he gets in with medi-cal, but the fact at this moment is that he has no insurance cuz he has been discontinued DUE to obamacare. So until he can get on medi-cal this apparently seems to be true..

You are full of shit, liar. He can get insurance if he wants it. Prove otherwise, or shut the fuck up.

By the way, Bob asked you to explain this story that doesn't make sense. We're still waiting for an explanation.

53 Miike 2014 Feb 3, 1:06pm

Miike says

Homeboy says

3. It is a LIE that he "can't get treatment because of Obamacare".

4. Perhaps he can get treatment once he gets in with medi-cal, but the fact at this moment is that he has no insurance cuz he has been discontinued DUE to obamacare. So until he can get on medi-cal this apparently seems to be true..

You are full of shit, liar. He can get insurance if he wants it. Prove otherwise, or shut the fuck up.

By the way, Bob asked you to explain this story that doesn't make sense. We're still waiting for an explanation.

Can you tell me where I said he cant get insurance? You resorting to making up shit now eh?

You're not going to respond to any of the half dozen things I called you on out in the previous post???? This is your response? I supposed you are now left to making up things that I didnt say in efforts to divert attention from the bullshit that spews out of your mouth... I am particularly fond of how you think that this guy losing his private insurance was a GOOD thing since he is now able to get Medi-cal. Let me help you remember exactly what you said...

but this is actually an Obamacare WIN.

This guy is going to get Medi-Cal, which is FREE. Had he remained on his old policy, he would still be paying an insurance company for NOTHING, when he could be getting care and not having to pay at all for the insurance.

Rather than being worse off, he is in fact BETTER off now, since he will be getting free medical insurance.

Homeboy reposts someone else's words

when in fact he can now get BETTER insurance for LESS money.

Yes, losing your insurance in the middle of being treated for cancer is a good thing. Yes now being able to get Medi-cal (the worse possible insurance) is a good thing. You realize people only get medi-cal because they cant get ANYTHING else. Do you even know anything about Medi-cal???? YOur comments here are the dumbest things ANYONE has ever said in Pnet, that is one HUGE accomplishment!!!! Hats off to you..

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elliemae 2014 Feb 3, 3:01pm

Thank you so much for your question. As for Mike he was kicked out of his insurance because of the Obamacare. I'm not too familiar with the details about it but I know that currently he is trying to be approved for medi-cal since he has been unable to work for several months and has no income. I believe he is heading toward the final stages and has been close to death but God has kept him with his family. My hopes is to raise as much money as we can but anything even if we only raised $400 we are happy with whatever we can do. Hopefully the medi-cal gets approved soon so that we may at least proper hospice care soon. Thank you for your interest and have a blessed day!

1) The guy has no income, so he can't pay for his insurance. Certainly not the fault of "Obamacare."

2) Her hope is to get the MediCal approved so that "we may at least proper hospice care soon..."

FYI there are non-profit hospices nearly everywhere in the US, certainly in California. Surely one of them would be willing to provide care for poor Mike, whose cancer is "heading toward the final stages..." They would provide for "Mike's" needs, if he truly existed - and would do so in the same manner no matter what the payment source might be.

YOur comments here are the dumbest things ANYONE has ever said in Pnet, that is one HUGE accomplishment!!!!

Does anyone else find it suspicious that the photos were posted only after this shitstorm on p-net? And that Miike's grasp of the English language is about the same as that of the link? And that his arguments make as much sense as the linked story? It's almost as if the author of the link and Miike were one and the same.

Sadly (for Miike), his attacks on my character aren't the reason for the deep-seated depression I find myself in the midst of... As much fun as I'm having watching this Miike dude attempt to defend his position as a supporter of an obvious attempt to bilk people of their money, I have a bigger problem:

I agree 100% with homeboy. Is there a 12-step program to help me deal with it?

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Homeboy 2014 Feb 3, 3:01pm

Miike:

Explain how he is "unable to be treated for his cancer" because of Obamacare.

Explain how he was "kicked out of his insurance".

Explain how he needs $500,000 when he has already applied for Medi Cal.

Explain how insurance you have to pay for is better than insurance that is free.

Tell us what YOU know about Medi Cal. Actual facts, not just ranting.

Since you claim to be "a friend of a friend", it should be no problem for you to answer those questions.

56

Homeboy 2014 Feb 3, 3:04pm

I agree 100% with homeboy. Is there a 12-step program to help me deal with it?

Awww. Now that was just mean. And after I "liked" all your posts...

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Homeboy 2014 Feb 3, 3:13pm

Yes, losing your insurance in the middle of being treated for cancer is a good thing.

It is if the insurance you "lost" was a crappy catastrophic plan that didn't even meet the minimum standards, and you can get better insurance for free.

See, here's something you obviously don't understand: The problem with the old "system" (if you could even call it a system) was that people were getting these lame policies that didn't cover anything, because they were cheap. But then when they DID get cancer or some other major illness, they would find out the hard way that their policy had an extremely high deductible, or lifetime caps on benefits, or didn't cover the treatment they needed.

Here's how it used to go down: "Oh, sorry you still have cancer, but we already paid out all the money we have to, so you're just shit out of luck now. Oh, and by the way, you have a pre-existing condition, so now you can't get insurance AT ALL." That's why illness was the number one cause of bankruptcy. People lost their insurance ALL THE TIME. The difference now is that they can ALWAYS get it back if they want it.

Not only are you defending such a stupid, stupid system, you are insanely screaming, wailing, and ranting because it's not allowed anymore. You really are out of your mind.

58

elliemae 2014 Feb 3, 3:36pm

elliemae says

I agree 100% with homeboy. Is there a 12-step program to help me deal with it?

Awww. Now that was just mean. And after I "liked" all your posts...

mean? I woulda thought you'd have laughed your ass off at that one! tough crowd...

59 carrieon 2014 Feb 3, 7:43pm

What Mike may of implied by his title, "Gotta love Obama Care," is that if Mike Choi was indigent, he would be receiving free healthcare right now for the cancer treatment as a reward for not owning health insurance.

60 Miike 2014 Feb 4, 3:46am

1) The guy has no income, so he can't pay for his insurance. Certainly not
the fault of "Obamacare."

who said that? Stop making up shit.

FYI there are non-profit hospices nearly everywhere in the US, certainly in
California. Surely one of them would be willing to provide care for poor Mike,
whose cancer is "heading toward the final stages..." They would provide for
"Mike's" needs, if he truly existed - and would do so in the same manner no
matter what the payment source might be.

Great so he can get free hospice care, so its ok that he lost his insurance in the midst of his cancer treatment. Thats makes up for it!

Hey since you claim to be so knowledgable about this topic, why dont you help this guy and find him a good hospice? This is what yo do for a living no??

Sadly (for Miike), his attacks on my character aren't the reason for the
deep-seated depression I find myself in the midst of... As much fun as I'm
having watching this Miike dude attempt to defend his position as a supporter of
an obvious attempt to bilk people of their money, I have a bigger problem:

For someone claiming to be a social worker you have very little compassion and for that matter common sense. You claim I am attacking your character? Why would I need to do that? You have already done that for me by making personal attacks on a man dying of cancer.

61 Miike 2014 Feb 4, 3:49am

Explain how insurance you have to pay for is better than insurance that is
free.

You retard, not all insurance is the same. If you are dying and need tons of care, do you think getting crappy care through medical is good even if it is free???

Tell us what YOU know about Medi Cal. Actual facts, not just ranting.

Wait, why do you always want to put the burden of proof on me. You made the claim that medical was better than his private insurance. What proof do you have to back that up? Homecheese, why dont you do a little research on medical or for that matter ask your girlfriend elliemae and see how awesome medical is... its not hard.

Only a dumb shit would claim that losing your private insurance and now getting medical is BETTER in the midst of being treated for cancer. If you cant admit that then all reasoning and logic will be lost on you...

62 Miike 2014 Feb 4, 4:02am

It is if the insurance you "lost" was a crappy catastrophic plan that didn't
even meet the minimum standards, and you can get better insurance for free.

Was it crappy catastrophic insurance? Did he tell you that? Even if it was, I bet you that medical is most likely worse...

Not only are you defending such a stupid, stupid system, you are insanely
screaming, wailing, and ranting because it's not allowed anymore. You really are
out of your mind.

My title may have been a poke at obamacare, but please tell me where I am defending this current system??? I find that all of your agruments are structure in a way to avoid the topic at hand and to divert to another topic of your choosing...

Much of my posts have been a rebuttal to you and your girlfriends constant attacks and criticisms on this man that you do not know. As I have stated many times, my main problem with you is that you attack and criticize and slander this guy because you FEEL that this is a scam, even after you email the person and basically get a response (which you probably didnt expect). The problem is you guys took this guys comments on obamacare personally and got your panties in a bunch and then resort to slandering and criticizing him to basically discredit him. Thats what I have been calling you out on... You can try to change the subject as much as you want but the fact is you are pissed that obamacare was talked about negatively and now you are attacking...

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Homeboy 2014 Feb 4, 4:22am

Was it crappy catastrophic insurance? Did he tell you that? Even if it was, I bet you that medical is most likely worse...

The ONLY possible way anyone could "lose" their insurance due to Obamacare, is if that insurance was a bare bones catastrophic junk plan that didn't meet the minimum standards for insurance. THEREFORE, if he lost his plan due to Obamacare, it was not a comprehensive plan. And even if he did "lose" his plan (which the team captain seems very unclear on), he simply has to shop on the exchange and get a new plan, which it appears he has done.

Medi-Cal cannot possibly be worse than his own plan. By law, all insurance must meet minimum standards of coverage. If you claim that his insurance was canceled due to Obamacare, then it is also true that it did not meet the minimum standards of coverage, since there is no other provision in the ACA that would cause an insurance policy to be canceled. This is simple logic, Miike - obviously not your strong suit.

His previous insurance - monthly premium and did not meet minimum standards.

Medi-Cal - no monthly premium and DOES meet minimum standards.

Medi-Cal is better by any objective standard. If you disagree, prove otherwise.

See, the difference between you and me, Miike, is that I form my opinions through evidence and reason, whereas you just make shit up.

64

Homeboy 2014 Feb 4, 4:30am

Wait, why do you always want to put the burden of proof on me.

Because you screamed that Medi-Cal was no good. I believe you wrote:

Furthermore, now his only way to care is through medi-cal, the worst piece of crap insurance you can have. do you have ANY idea what kind of SHIT care he will get with medi-cal?

But you know, Miike? I KNEW you didn't have an iota of evidence to back that up. Because you're just flailing about with your bitter anti-Obamacare baseless rants. That's all you're doing here. I explained why he is better off now. You have done absolutely NOTHING to explain your angry tirade that Medi-Cal is "shit" and "the worst piece of crap insurance you can have".

65 Miike 2014 Feb 4, 11:18am

The ONLY possible way anyone could "lose" their insurance due to Obamacare, is if that insurance was a bare bones catastrophic junk plan that didn't meet the minimum standards for insurance. THEREFORE, if he lost his plan due to Obamacare, it was not a comprehensive plan.

YOu are clearly a retard that doesnt know crap. YOu imply that because these plans didnt meet the minimum requirements, the plan was bare bones. So because a plan didnt pay 100% for preventative care, its bare bones? If a plan didnt have maternity coverage, its bare bones? If a plan doesnt have childrens dental and vision its bare bones? If a plan doesnt pay for substance abuse, its bare bones? YOu are clearly a retard. A plan could have AWESOME coverage for EVERYTHING else, but not meet ONE requirement and it would not meet the standards for ACA. Are you really that stupid or just being deceitful as always?

Medi-Cal cannot possibly be worse than his own plan.

Medi-Cal - no monthly premium and DOES meet minimum standards.

Medi-Cal is better by any objective standard. If you disagree, prove otherwise.

See, the difference between you and me, Miike, is that I form my opinions through evidence and reason, whereas you just make shit up.

http://www.modbee.com/2013/03/09/2614005/patient-influx-too-few-doctors.html

I KNEW you didn't have an iota of evidence to back that up.

Let me ask you something... what do you know about medi-cal? Probably nothing. Now let me tell you why medi-cal sucks.

Have you ever seen how medi-cal patients are treated???? How long do you think it takes to get into see a primary care doc with medi-cal? How much time do you think a doctor spends with their medi-cal patients vs their private insurance patients? How long do you think you will have to wait to see a specialist? Can you even get access to specialists? How many physicians are willing to accept medi-cal? Does that mean you have to choose from 10 doctors instead of a 1000? Will you have to drive 40 miles to see someone rather than 10 miles if you had private insurance? Will you be seen by some foreign medical doc who you cant even understand? Can you get access to certain treatments and medications? Would some doctors purposefully try to avoid seeing medi-cal patients? YOu can talk all about how medi-cal meets minimum requirements. It may look good on paper, but in reality it performs like shit. You are living an dream if you think medi-cal is better... or you're just a fool. Probably the latter.

http://www.kevinmd.com/blog/2013/11/physicians-hesitant-medicaid-patients.html

http://www.chcf.org/publications/2010/07/physician-participation-in-medical

http://reason.com/blog/2013/11/25/who-will-treat-those-new-medicaid-patien

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2007/03/more-medicaid-means-less-quality-health-care

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2012/11/studies-show-medicaid-patients-have-worse-access-and-outcomes-than-the-privately-insured

just a few articles... too many to post.

If you dont believe me nor these articles, why not just ask any healthcare professional on the forum about medi-cal (medicaid)...

66 Miike 2014 Feb 4, 11:23am

BTW homeboy,

you going to continue slandering this guy by calling him a scammer? or have you forgiven him for criticizing obamacare?

67 carrieon 2014 Feb 4, 11:29am

The best plan is to not work and get everything for free, like homeboy as well as unfortunately 60% of today's population.

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elliemae 2014 Feb 4, 12:04pm

who said that? Stop making up shit.

His story has so many holes in it... yet you are able to come up with all sorts of inside scoop on this guy. Ya gotta be very low income in order to qualify for MediCal, so I figured this out.

Hey since you claim to be so knowledgable about this topic, why dont you help this guy and find him a good hospice? This is what yo do for a living no??

I am extremely "knowledgable" (hey, have you ever heard of "spell check?") about hospice, insurances and medical care. That is how I can sniff out a scam - which your good buddy appears to be perpetrating.

We are enjoying the shit out of harassing you over your unwavering support of some dude whose only proof he was screwed by the Affordable Healthcare Act is a posting on a site where he begs for money. He has so many believers that he has been able to raise $420. Yay!!!!

You can continue your failed attempts to attack those people who don't believe you. However, each time you write another post, you just look like a bigger idiot. And each time, I'm surprised because I didn't think it was possible.

BTW, I do not locate hospices for people for a living. It's not hard, all one of his supporters (or he, or his doctor, or you) needs to do is pick up a phone and call a local hospice. I'm hoping that you aren't so "retarded" (it takes one to know one) that you aren't able to dial a phone...

Let me ask you something... what do you know about medi-cal? Probably nothing.

We can read, Miike. Do you have any personal experience with MediCal, or do you simply believe everything you read on the interwebs?

Again - and for the last time, because this horse is so dead it smells - this guy's claim of his lack of medical care due to a failure of the Affordable Healthcare Act doesn't hold water.

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Homeboy 2014 Feb 4, 2:09pm

carrieon says

The best plan is to not work and get everything for free, like homeboy as well as unfortunately 60% of today's population.

You have been brainwashed by Rush Limbaugh.

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Homeboy 2014 Feb 4, 2:20pm

just a few articles... too many to post.

Interesting. The first article you posted says, "Low Medi-Cal rates are addressed, temporarily at least, by Obamacare. Starting in January and lasting two years, reimbursement rates for many primary care services in Medi-Cal will jump to Medicare levels, funded by the federal government."

And then the rest of the articles talk about how the reimbursement rates are lower than Medicare and doctors don't want to take Medi-Cal patients. So it looks like that problem has been solved.

What else ya got?

Besides, he doesn't have to get Medi-Cal if he doesn't want to. He's free to sign up for any insurance plan he wants.

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Homeboy 2014 Feb 4, 2:25pm