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They are, but when it comes to selling sex, they are a lot more equal by an order of magnitude.

Aaah, the "Craigslist Dinner Whore" in her match dot com incarnation.

Even though they shot from stage right for most of the interview, I couldn't help but keep thinking, "I wonder if someone realized they were played right before her septum was deviated?"

It makes me sick to hear her repeat how she thinks dating should be traditional and the man should pay. Perhaps it should be traditional and she should be ostracized by other women for not having a husband, and shunned by men for not having good (subservient) "wife" qualities. Or even more traditional than that, where she is her Father's "property" until she marries and is then her husband's property! I bet she cherry picks her morals the way she cherry picks her traditions. Dinner whore!

Real Men don't care, but they do accept her invention to free dinners with a discriminate eye.

Woman using man up, taking him for all he's worth - new female tradition.

And, lol, it's obvious this woman does not know how to cook - new female tradition.

A little sleaze can go a long way in today's world, and more and more often - rewarded.

meh

Probably a bit frigid/repressed. She just needs a good boning to unleash and connect with her mind, body and soul, rekindle her forgotten sexuality.

sbh says

Speaking of traditions, does anyone have a theory about the origin of men opening doors for women?

theory:

- doors were heavier back then; made of lumber, poorly constructed without hinges, door knobs and all the technology that makes them slide open with a slight push. they were harder to open.

- since the woman's hands were always occupied carrying sandwiches for their man, the man had to open the heavy doors.

In the early dating period of a relationship, I always thought that the person asking should be the one to pay. The person asking is the one who determines the venue... so it's kind of presumptuous to assume that the other person is in a position to split the bill.

That said, it's amazing how much times have changed in the last 15-20 years. When I was in my 20's, electronic dating was something to be mocked. Now it's as common as day.

I've been married a long time, so I'm sure things have changed a bit. I can't think of a time that I ever asked a guy out for a date. I would have felt like I was being too forward. But I also never accepted a date with a guy who I wasn't genuinely interested in getting to know better. If I couldn't see a particular guy as a "boyfriend," I had no interest in wasting his or my time (or money for that matter).

The thing that makes this women so disgusting is that she knew she had no interest in a particular guy, yet she went out with him for the sole purpose of getting a free, expensive meal. She's so callous that she charted this fact on an Excel spreadsheet. I'm surprised she would have admitted to this fact. At least it only cost these guys a dinner or two. It will be worse when she decides to upgrade from free dinners to 1/2 of a person's net worth.

1200/30 = $40 per dinner date, assuming she did this 30 times a month.

If she was upfront about her goals from the get-go - Free expensive meal for me - dinner (only) companion for you then fine. If however she is not up front about her goals or even worse alludes that the evening might go further if only her date would order a bottle of Cristal with her lobster well then she is nothing more than a common cock tease. Nothing worthy about that.

mell says

Probably a bit frigid/repressed. She just needs a good boning to unleash and connect with her mind, body and soul, rekindle her forgotten sexuality.

What she really needs is a nose job.

New Renter says

mell says

Probably a bit frigid/repressed. She just needs a good boning to unleash and connect with her mind, body and soul, rekindle her forgotten sexuality.

What she really needs is a nose job.

It's about giving back to society - can't always sleep with supermodels only!

I think Match.com is the land of free dinners. This story isn't even surprising.

I went to breakfast with a friend at IHOP last month. This guy is one of those perpetual, always losing out on the girl, type of guys. He's only around 5'5, and so he always only dated women around 5'1 or under because of heels. So his options are already limited just because of that.

Anyway, he tells me about this girl he meets in L.A from Match.com. They meet up, and right up front she's kind of rude, saying things like "I hope this isn't going to be a boring date!"

So he takes her to this fancy sushi place on the West side. The entire time, he tells me, she's very ADD. Texting, looking at Facebook, chatting with the waiter instead of him. Finally he just has it. He tells her she's being rude, and asking why is she not spending more time talking to him? He told me according to their profiles and initial phone conversations, they had so much in common. Both liked the same authors, both liked outdoor running, they even had the same religious and political affiliations. Everything seemed to "match" up.

She says, "I'm kind of ADD when I'm not really attracted to someone, or if someone is not exciting to me."

Damn. He pretty much told me he was crushed, and to add insult to injury when the $378.00 bill came, she didn't move a single muscle for her purse. So he ended up spending almost 4 bills on a HORRIBLE date with some self-entitled rude woman. I felt so bad for him. I told him NEVER to take a girl to a place like that on a FIRST date. Starbucks, coffee, and you find out in 15-20 minutes if there is chemistry. If not, hey, it cost you $5 to find out. No big deal. But $378?! I felt his pain.

turtledove says

In the early dating period of a relationship, I always thought that the person asking should be the one to pay. The person asking is the one who determines the venue... so it's kind of presumptuous to assume that the other person is in a position to split the bill.

The thing is in early dating the man is expected to ask and almost always does. I would always offer to pay but if she wants to split I would only let her if I didn't like her. If I liked the lady I would say something like "you can get next time" or "I'll only let you if I'm not going to see you again" so you get the second date ask in there and set the expectation at the same time.

Online dating is weird anyways. Most of the guys on there are total creeps. If you can convince a woman to go out on a date through the maze of email and bullshit and are normal and well adjusted they will throw themselves at you. I never had a problem paying because I got laid on like half of the first dates and most of the other half was by choice.

mell says

New Renter says

mell says

Probably a bit frigid/repressed. She just needs a good boning to unleash and connect with her mind, body and soul, rekindle her forgotten sexuality.

What she really needs is a nose job.

It's about giving back to society - can't always sleep with supermodels only!

Well I'm sure she's still available. Maybe you can fly her out - first class of course - for a dinner date.

Goran_K says

So he ended up spending almost 4 bills on a HORRIBLE date with some self-entitled rude woman. I felt so bad for him. I told him NEVER to take a girl to a place like that on a FIRST date. Starbucks, coffee, and you find out in 15-20 minutes if there is chemistry. If not, hey, it cost you $5 to find out. No big deal. But $378?! I felt his pain.

I am also thinking "Amateur"

zzyzzx says

Goran_K says

So he ended up spending almost 4 bills on a HORRIBLE date with some self-entitled rude woman. I felt so bad for him. I told him NEVER to take a girl to a place like that on a FIRST date. Starbucks, coffee, and you find out in 15-20 minutes if there is chemistry. If not, hey, it cost you $5 to find out. No big deal. But $378?! I felt his pain.

I am also thinking "Amateur"

"Desperate" and "Dumb Money" come to mind

Maybe he should overpay for a house! At least a realtor understands how to close a deal.

Mark D says

i thought american women are all about equality??!

Nope. They only want "equality" if it means they can get more than what they already have.

That woman is something that starts with a "C" and ends with a "unt".

Ceffer says

but when it comes to selling sex, they are a lot more equal by an order of magnitude.

We are not preventing you from getting free expensive dinner from a different man every day of the month. I am not sure if you live close enough to San Francisco to make that practical.

mell says

Probably a bit frigid/repressed. She just needs a good boning to unleash and connect with her mind, body and soul, rekindle her forgotten sexuality.

She's all yours. But take her to a hot dog stand for dinner. That way if she doesn't put out, you didn't blow any cash.

turtledove says

In the early dating period of a relationship, I always thought that the person asking should be the one to pay.

Ha ha. I wish. The rule of thumb is "You're the man - you're supposed to pay". I am impressed by a woman who offers to pay the bill. Many just flat out refuse, even if they make more money than the man.

Goran_K says

She says, "I'm kind of ADD when I'm not really attracted to someone, or if someone is not exciting to me."

Damn. He pretty much told me he was crushed, and to add insult to injury when the $378.00 bill came, she didn't move a single muscle for her purse. So he ended up spending almost 4 bills on a HORRIBLE date with some self-entitled rude woman. I felt so bad for him. I told him NEVER to take a girl to a place like that on a FIRST date. Starbucks, coffee, and you find out in 15-20 minutes if there is chemistry. If not, hey, it cost you $5 to find out. No big deal. But $378?! I felt his pain.

Holy shit. She's a giant cunt, but he's a fucking fool. The cue to bail was when she opened her yapper to bitch about not having a boring date. "Is that so? Well, have fun entertaining yourself."

First of all, you are a tard for taking someone on a $400 first date. The last thing you want to try to impress a woman with is your MONEY if you are actually looking for a relationship that has any chance of lasting. Not all American girls are terrible like this, but the odds of finding a decent one are slim as far as I can tell. Find one that has gotten some dirt under her fingernails at some point in life and you have a better chance. The same probably goes for guys. Spoiled, entitled pieces of shit are never fun.

The most comical part of the video is the scene with her current boyfriend/victim as they walk down the hall. He looks pretty embarrassed to be outed as her latest exploit, while being desperate enough to put up with it for a shot at smashing a 7. Somehow I bet that he only gets action on the limited occasions when she lets him, and that is probably preceded by him coughing up a large sum of money on some sort of bullshit. Requiring payment for sex...you know there is a name for that...

New Renter says

"Desperate" and "Dumb Money" come to mind

Maybe he should overpay for a house! At least a realtor understands how to close a deal.

Yeah, he has been pretty desperate the 5+ years I've known him. Nice guy, just... for lack of a better way to put it, he has absolutely no game.

On the bright side our mutual friend set him up with someone in our "mutual group", and they are going to a ball game supposedly. I hope it works out for him.

Straw Man says

It doesn't really matter whether her muscles are moving or not. Just say: "Waiter, split the bill" and pay your half. Problem solved.

Cooold blooded. I'll have to tell him that for next time.

turtledove says

That said, it's amazing how much times have changed in the last 15-20 years. When I was in my 20's, electronic dating was something to be mocked. Now it's as common as day.

I would scratch any Woman from my little black book, if they are out there randomly throwing darts.

Goran_K says

So he ended up spending almost 4 bills on a HORRIBLE date with some self-entitled rude woman. I felt so bad for him. I told him NEVER to take a girl to a place like that on a FIRST date. Starbucks, coffee, and you find out in 15-20 minutes if there is chemistry. If not, hey, it cost you $5 to find out. No big deal. But $378?! I felt his pain.

I'm thinking that a prostitute would have been cheaper, and better.

I can't argue with that statement.

Goran_K says

Straw Man says

It doesn't really matter whether her muscles are moving or not. Just say: "Waiter, split the bill" and pay your half. Problem solved.

Cooold blooded. I'll have to tell him that for next time.

Ironically THAT would be what it takes to get him laid.

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

No imagination. She should have guys drive her to and from work and take her on European vacations for a first date, too. Mow the lawn, wash the car, bathe the dog. She can operate software. All she needs is a good calendar program.

She needs to be a LOT better looking for that.

If she get that nose fixed maybe. Until then its just Dinner and a NO!

It's clear to me that, given the extreme lack of empathy this woman shows for the men she uses, she's a sociopath. Most sociopaths are like her, interested in playing (and winning) a particular game of their own devising that takes advantage of the good will of others to both obtain something for themselves and abuse people in a passive aggressive way. It's all about risk vs. reward. What can I get away with before getting caught, and much less, punished?
Normal women would never do this. I would run screaming from a woman like this no matter if she looked like Jessica Biel. The only way you win a game with a sociopath is to refuse to play.

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

New Renter says

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

No imagination. She should have guys drive her to and from work and take her on European vacations for a first date, too. Mow the lawn, wash the car, bathe the dog. She can operate software. All she needs is a good calendar program.

She needs to be a LOT better looking for that.

If she get that nose fixed maybe. Until then its just Dinner and a NO!

Depends how desperate the guys are. She could recruit some real grotesques that have never seen pussy they haven't paid for.

Yeah but then she has to look at them and eat. If she has that kind of gag control she has truly missed her calling.

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

Quigley says

The only way you win a game with a sociopath is to refuse to play.

Right. The first mission of a psychopath is to appear appealing. She looks so limp and lifeless, you have to wonder how desperate the guys are who put up with her wolfing down steaks and lobsters and champagne on their nickels.

Sociopaths find ways to MAKE you play. The honest ones just club you over the head and chase you through a death maze. The rest try to sell you a house.

Hysteresis says

meh

Worse nose ring ever.

Quigley says

It's clear to me that, given the extreme lack of empathy this woman shows for the men she uses, she's a sociopath. Most sociopaths are like her, interested in playing (and winning) a particular game of their own devising that takes advantage of the good will of others to both obtain something for themselves and abuse people in a passive aggressive way. It's all about risk vs. reward. What can I get away with before getting caught, and much less, punished?

You just described capitalism perfectly.

In her case, it was a "non-spread" sheet.

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

The guys should just slam up a turgid hard-on, stuff it into a hot dog roll and slather with onions and mustard and invite Ms Diner at Large to feast.

Is that a foot long?

APOCALYPSEFUCK is Shostakovich says

at Large to feast.

Is that a foot long?

And a foot wide, yes.

Why don't you guys get a room.

MsBennet says

Why don't you guys get a room.

Only if he buys me a really expensive dinner.

Goran_K says

I told him NEVER to take a girl to a place like that on a FIRST date. Starbucks, coffee, and you find out in 15-20 minutes if there is chemistry. If not, hey, it cost you $5 to find out. No big deal.

As the woman in these kinds of situations, I have to say that I would only meet a guy for a coffee date if it was a blind date or dating site connection. I don't want to endure dinner with some creepy guy or even with a nice guy that I have no romantic interest in. There are all these weird expectations that go along with a dinner date. No. Thank. You.

Coffee is a great first date if you don't know that you like someone.

If I guy tried to take me to a fancy sushi place on a first date, I would suggest coffee instead.

I don't want him looking across the table at me like I am a fresh catch. EW!