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The Dali Lama robbed Hari Krishna of the prize IMHO...

Kissinger he brokered peace in the middle East or something didn't he?

Now I'm curious, was that prize awarded before or after Israel walled off the Ghettos?

Mother Theresa was living a lie, She wanted to live a life of a Jersey Flapper, but some how got sentenced to a life of servitude to humanity in Calcutta, by proxy of the worlds expectations of her.

"And the United Nations Childrens Fund." That's Money!

AaaaaaaaaHahahahahahahahahahahahahaaa

Heh, oh Hohohohohoh ah oh,

Yeah.

Them grapes, they sour.

Woodrow Wilson,
Roosevelt,

You mean two of the worst US presidents ever? Oh, and Jimmy Carter, worst president since LBJ.

Ronald Reagan saved the whole damn world from the Evil Empire and he did not get a Nobel Peace Prize.

I will take a Nobu Gift Certificate over a Nobel Peace Prize.

Well, I for one am happy that Obama has won this prestigious international award.

It is an omen for posterity.

A fantastic kudo for our President and country.

President Obama won the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE.

w00t!

He shares the company of many nobel men and women who have made a difference.

I am so glad that Senile Old Regan didn't win it. Of course he would never have known it anyway, as I recall . . . he couldnt recall.

Anyway, Peter, since you want it, I'll give it to you:

I officially grant Peter P with the Nobu Gift Certificate.
Good for one free sour grape.

Well I suppose he could ferment then distill them and make Pisco,

Revisionists are getting better, they can alter history as it happens, with excuses and metaphors.

Sour grapes are good!

You can certainly ferment them, and get drunk, then you can say:

"Those damn revisionists, they be at work, blu, bla, bu, bu. Listen to them! They be revisionists!"

Ahahahahahahah oh, ah. . . it will make more sense then.

Rich, and fruity, with whipped cream and Marijuana on top!

Revisionists are getting better, they can alter history as it happens, with excuses and metaphors.

Just-in-time Revisionism?

(Correction: FDR did not receive a "peace" prize, Theodore Roosevelt did. Teddy was not as bad, although he was still a "progressive".)

Whatever. Just smack a label on it . . . And do it fast!!

That way we can use excuses, metaphors, and misdirection.

frodo says

Whatever. Just smack a label on it . . . And do it fast!!
That way we can use excuses, metaphors, and misdirection.

This is such an important issue to complain about - that our President received a Nobel Peace Prize? I can barely concentrate on this, 'cause Jon & Kate are heading back to court and I don't know what to wear while I'm watching the mega-coverage on my teevee.

The same people who are up in arms at the Peace Prize thing thought that Bush's "team" did a heckuva job when New Orleans was nearly wiped off the map. With so many real problems to complain about, they chose this?

Ugh. frodo says

Rich, and fruity, with whipped cream and Marijuana on top!

Don't sprinkle nasty tasting bud on my sour grape sundae; 'ludes make ya sleepy without attacking the taste buds.

"The same people who are up in arms at the Peace Prize thing thought that Bush’s “team” did a heckuva job when New Orleans was nearly wiped off the map. With so many real problems to complain about, they chose this?"

Not so Elliemae don't go getting all sentimental on us now.

Besides I'm not as much "up in arms" about it, any more so than any one is "UP in Arms" that I'm not Impressed by the Obama nod (to say the least).

I'm just being honest about my observations of this president. What I have to question people who want to be up my ass about that.

It's not like he is setting up agendas and axing them down in short order, in there kicking ass and taking names and scratching items off his short list. Give me a freaking break, and am being 100% honest, you guys are the ones stretching the truth, and forging Whoppers, to justify this Terd.

I plan on writing a witty comeback on here that makes the liberals very unhappy. Can I get credit for that now as long as I promise to do it using hope and change?

If I had two watchdogs that never stopped a crime, but always wanted to, I'd name them Hope and Change.

Just-in-time Revisionism?

Ha! even better...

is that an interpreted language?

Or how about "Java Historians" for short.

Lets see in just a few short years...

David Bowie was a coward...
Mary Magdalene was Jesus wife...
Pluto is not a Planet...
The Mayans saw the demise of the world in 2012, but they didn't for see their own demise over four centuries ago...
Columbus was an evil tyrant that was discredited and fell from grace... I have a hard time that History would have said other wise for over 400 years...
Lincoln was Gay...

just to name a few recent history revisions that claim other wise what we were taught in school.

all of which are 21'st century revelations.

He who controls the present, controls the past.

-- George Orwell

“The same people who are up in arms at the Peace Prize thing thought that Bush’s “team” did a heckuva job when New Orleans was nearly wiped off the map. With so many real problems to complain about, they chose this?”

NOLA was a disaster, but what is the wisdom of having one's home below sea level?

Where was Nola's freakin Ark! HUh?

They couldn't even use the damn bridge.

"The same people who are up in arms at the Peace Prize thing thought that Bush’s “team” did a heckuva job when New Orleans was nearly wiped off the map. With so many real problems to complain about, they chose this? "

I don't think this is fair. Yet again, partisan politicos are missing the point.

Bush was clear into his 6th year of soccer kicking the US in the nuts before the neo-con supporttards started to get a sniff that something might be fishy with this fellow. It was all the brainwashed, republicans-can-do-no-wrong idiots that gave him his political capital...which he quickly cashed in for himself and his friends...literally...at the expense of the entire world.

This time, we have Obama who is immensely popular and can do no wrong in the eyes of the massively brainwashed democrat supporters. This is a scary situation, and it bothers me that noone is holding him to his campaign promises. Why is it so hard for the democrats to judge this guy honestly?

Why hasn't he shut down Guantanamo? Why are we still fighting in Iraq? Where's the progress in Afganistan? What has he done for the Palestine/Israel/Iran conflict in the middle east? Why can't even he do something easy like allow gays to openly serve in the military?

In the meantime he has increased our deficit to 1.2 trillion? He hasn't gone through the budget with his "fine-toothed-comb."

He has actively engaged in Keynesian handouts, and generally appointed a slew of crooks to be his top advisors (especially his economic advisors)...and he basically kindly asked the Dali Lama to go fuck himself.

So, yeah, I have a huge problem with allowing any politician a free pass to hand out billions to his friends while ignoring everything he promised during his campaign. I have a huge problem with the brainwashed democrats assuming any criticism of their savior is coming from either a 1)racist 2)a Rush Limbaugh junkie or 3)a religious nut.

Well, on the bright side, he does speak well. What a joke.

"Well, on the bright side, he does speak well. What a joke."

That same logic did afford Regan to run his Cocaine for Guns scam on America while he and his wife told every one to just say no. They assumed that if the good lil wholesome white kids all said no, then only the blacks and Spanish hoodlums would buy the drugs they were unleashing on Burbdale America. So in retrospect Nancies' "Just say no" mantra was really an "IN COMMING" warning.

But as bad as my Dad hated and moaned about Reaganomics(I was to young to really first had evaluate the ramifications at the time). Obamanomics will not be as beneficial to as many people "DOWN THE ROAD" as Regan's economic strategies did.

When Obama's economic policies (Which in truth, is just a continuation of Bush's policies Let's be fair) fail, and they will. There will be many people that will clean up in the carnage, at the expense of all of these brainless nit witts thinking a $1800 a month (mandated) premiums, in tandem with $3,500 a month mortgages(being the median), is change and hope.

To that I say good luck with that you broken Turkeys.

But Reaganomics actually worked...

Many attacks on Ron's policies are really attacks on the Natural Law, under which the survival of the fittest ensures the evolution of the universe.

Funny that a lot of people worship Evolution nowadays.

Progressivism is so full of contradictions.

Peter P says

But Reaganomics actually worked…

If you want to call increasing the GDP and enriching only those at the top of the food chain...at the direct expense of a cripling national debt, an enormous trade deficit, and all US factory jobs sent overseas, then sure, it worked great!

The problem with Reaganomics wasn't the theory behind it, it was that he didn't actually follow through with what he was preaching. Also, going from a state controlled economy to a free market is kind of like defusing a bomb. If you cut the wrong wire first (in this case the tariffs)...then BOOOM!!! Bye, bye US factory jobs.

Ron Paul on Ronald Reagan:

"Tax revenues are up 59 percent since 1980. Because of our economic growth? No. During Carter's four years, we had growth of 37.2 percent; Reagan's five years have given us 30.7 percent. The new revenues are due to four giant Republican tax increases since 1981. All republicans rightly chastised Carter for his $38 billion deficit. But they ignore or even defend deficits of $220 billion, as government spending has grown 10.4 percent per year since Reagan took office, while the federal payroll has zoomed by a quarter of a million bureaucrats... big government has been legitimized in a way the Democrats never could have accomplished. It was tragic to listen to Ronald Reagan on the 1986 campaign trail bragging about his high spending on farm subsidies, welfare, warfare, etc... the IRS has grown bigger, richer, more powerful, and more arrogant. In the words of the founders of our country, our government has "sent hither swarms" of tax gatherers "to harass our people and eat out their substance." His officers jailed the innocent George Hansen, with the President refusing to pardon a great American whose only crime was to defend the Constitution. Reagan's new tax "reform" gives even more power to the IRS. Far from making taxes fairer or simpler, it deceitfully raises more revenue for the government to waste... I want to totally disassociate myself from the policies that have given us unprecedented deficits, massive monetary inflation, indiscriminate military spending, an irrational and unconstitutional foreign policy, zooming foreign aid, the exaltation of international banking, and the attack on our personal liberties and privacy. "
-- Letter to chairman of the RNC Frank Fahrenkopf, March 1987 [60]
http://www.textfiles.com/politics/ron_paul.txt

As long as the republicans kept preaching free market capitalism as their mantra, their brainwashed supporters kept voting for them, despite the fact that they were doing the exact opposite. This has gone on since 1981!!!!...and still people believe that the republican party actually stands for the free market. It's all HOGWASH, my friends. This is the gift the neo-cons have given the world. Why anyone who calls themselves a free market capitalist would support the republicans is beyond me. Of course if you criticised the Republicans you were accused of being a communist or anti-american or a bleading heart pinko LIBERAL.

Take note Democrats, as you now sound just like the 1983 to 2003 Republitards when you accuse any Obama criticism of being from a racist, an AM radio quack, or a religious zealot. The brainwashing follows a simple pattern of BS, that unfortunately 2/3 of the population seem incapable of successfully wading through.

This time around Democrats, its up to you to be better. Which, unfortunately, means we're screwed.

In lib world:
R supporters = brainwashed
D supporters = intelligent

In conservo world:
R and D dont mean shit, it's conservative vs liberal. And conservative D's will get my vote before a liberal R. Liberals will not do any such thing, they will vote party line evry time and that is the only reason they ever win anything. Conservative votes get split off very easy because each THINKS FOR THEMSELF. Libs, on the other hand, only have in common their lack of moral standards. The End.

In Waynes World:
Sh-wing!!

Frankly, I'm not sure anyone even knows what conservative or liberal mean anymore. I know that most republicans aren't conservative by my definition. As I complain about whoever is in power at the time, I generally get accused of being a liberal when the republicans are in power and a conservative when the democrats are in power.

The ONLY difference between the dems and repubs is that the dems are early in their power cycle. The Republicans have had 28 years to figure out that their own party was selling them down the river. Thus any republican with half a brain is finally angry at their leadership. This is by no means insinuates that repubs are smarter, as it should have taken them 8 years tops to figure this out.

"In lib world:
R supporters = brainwashed
D supporters = intelligent"

I do agree with this statement. Though this is ONLY due to the fact the dems have watched republicans steal and cheat for the last 28 years, and somehow think their own party has a higher set of morals. Of course they are wrong, but it will take them 20 years, a mountain of legislation mortgaging our future into the hands of the greedy power clique, and multiple major scandals to figure that out. As they are inevitably proven to be wrong (AGAIN), the roles will reverse, as they always do. The republicans will have a faithful following and the dems will be the skeptics, just as they were in the late 70's and early 80's.

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

It is quite unfortunate that neither group of supporters seems to be able think critically when it matters. Anyone that supports either major political party is part of the problem, IMHO.

Frankly, I’m not sure anyone even knows what conservative or liberal mean anymore.

Progressives believe changes ought to be forced upon the people. Conservatives allow progresses to emerge naturally.

It seems to me Republicans want to pass laws forbidding things that I like, While Democrats want mandate things I don't.

A gift for tot:
http://borowitzreport.com/index.aspx

Obama Named Country Music Entertainer of the Year
Surprise Selection Shocks Nashville

NASHVILLE (The Borowitz Report) - President Barack Obama stunned the country music world today by picking up its highest honor, Country Music Entertainer of the Year.

Mr. Obama was chosen unanimously, according to the Country Music Association, beating out such favorite as Carrie Underwood and Toby Keith.

In Nashville, country music insiders were shocked by Mr. Obama's selection, given that he has only been in office for eight months and during that time has yet to record a single country song.

But Mr. Obama was gracious in receiving the honor, saying that he was "honored and humbled" by the award before excusing himself to accept this year's Heisman Trophy.

lmao

It seems to me Republicans want to pass laws forbidding things that I like, While Democrats want mandate things I don’t.

Because both parties are progressive in the sense that personal responsibility has been outlawed.

CBOE--

Geez. I'm not a blinded liberal, but I think you are being overly harsh on our commander in chief. We're grading him on his accomplishments after less than a 1 year in office? I think it's premature, but let's go over your list anyway.

Closing Guantanamo--He has ordered it to be closed, but unfortunately Congress is standing in his way. He is the President, but in the US we have this nasty little separation of powers thing outlined in the Constitution.

Iraq-He is steadily drawing down our troops there. Obviously you can't just pack up and leave a country that you have destroyed. I think it was Colin Powell said something like--you break it, you own it. And that came to pass.

Afghanistan--That is where I think he is making the least progress. Sounds like it is being discussed at the highest levels right now. Personally, I'd rather they take their time and get it right...

Middle East--Clearly he is focusing a lot of time and effort on this dilemma. Leaning on Israel to stop their settlements, developing a new framework for talks to being, etc. Not sure how one can think nothing is happening there.

Budget-- Again, there is that nasty Congress. Spending is determined by our reps and senators, not our President. They have a habit of putting their pet projects in the budget even when the President doesn't want them. ie see the military budget...

I just think it's ridiculous to criticize Obama for not cleaning up the mess that it took Bush 8 years to create in 6 months. If he was a dictator or King it might be easier, but the way our government is set up now, it's next to impossible. Special interests and lobbyists run the show and not even the President can change that.

They have a habit of putting their pet projects in the budget even when the President doesn’t want them.

Answer: Line-item vetoing. The CSA thought of this over a hundred years ago.

It may take a constitutional amendment though.

tatupu70 says

Geez. I’m not a blinded liberal, but I think you are being overly harsh on our commander in chief.

I was trying to emphasize that the proper attitude to have towards Obama is VERY cautious optimism, not outright anger. However, a politician should never receive ecstatic, blind support, which is where most democrats seem to be with this guy. In general I am angry at our politicians though, so that probably came through a bit too much. I was also expressing my frustration with partisan politicos, as they are always brainwashed in the same way, whether they fall into the right, left, conservative, liberal, or some other completely meaningless description.

Mostly, I am confused that this guy can get an award for world peace before he has done anything except give fantastic speeches.

tatupu70 says

CBOE–
Geez. I’m not a blinded liberal, but I think you are being overly harsh on our commander in chief. We’re grading him on his accomplishments after less than a 1 year in office? I think it’s premature, but let’s go over your list anyway.
Closing Guantanamo–He has ordered it to be closed, but unfortunately Congress is standing in his way. He is the President, but in the US we have this nasty little separation of powers thing outlined in the Constitution.
Iraq-He is steadily drawing down our troops there. Obviously you can’t just pack up and leave a country that you have destroyed. I think it was Colin Powell said something like–you break it, you own it. And that came to pass.
Afghanistan–That is where I think he is making the least progress. Sounds like it is being discussed at the highest levels right now. Personally, I’d rather they take their time and get it right…
Middle East–Clearly he is focusing a lot of time and effort on this dilemma. Leaning on Israel to stop their settlements, developing a new framework for talks to being, etc. Not sure how one can think nothing is happening there.
Budget– Again, there is that nasty Congress. Spending is determined by our reps and senators, not our President. They have a habit of putting their pet projects in the budget even when the President doesn’t want them. ie see the military budget…
I just think it’s ridiculous to criticize Obama for not cleaning up the mess that it took Bush 8 years to create in 6 months. If he was a dictator or King it might be easier, but the way our government is set up now, it’s next to impossible. Special interests and lobbyists run the show and not even the President can change that.

Cough Cough Bull Crap cough cough(I say politely in your general direction)

I think it's unfair to expect Obama to fix any problem previous presidents didn't at least show interest in having a desire to fix. But

Obama is the man that said he'll shine our shoes, and do the dishes too, if we elect him. It's the obsequious gestures he made as a candidate, that has him on the hook now.

And if his obscene candidat goals weren't lofty enough the went on a world tour making more the first three months. I bet his advisers were giving him the ole nix-a hand under the throat.

trout--

I'm laughing--so what you're saying is that Obama hasn't achieved all of his promises in his first six months?? My word!! I agree--he must be a total failure. I mean, how hard is it to broker peace in the Middle East. It's not like they have been fighting for hundreds of years or anything. Or balance the budget during the worst recession since the Great Depression. That should be child's play. Or rebuild Iraq and establish a strong, free market government in the Middle East. All of these should problems should have been solved already... You're completely correct.

Of course he said he made promises during the campaign. And he is working towards making the promises a reality. But, these are huge, complex problems. And they can't be solved in 6 months...

"Obama hasn’t achieved all of his promises in his first six months?? "

No just one, actually not even that, just showing more than interest in doing just one thing.

and this is more than 6 months btw.

We don't want the bluebird of happiness, we want the bluebird of immediate gratification.

Hey, if that chunky kardashian tart can meet a guy and marry him in a month for our viewing pleasure (no, I didn't watch), why can't President Obama solve all the problems in the world in a day? What the hell is taking him so long?

He could be solving our national debt problem like Bush: National Debt as of Jan. 15, 2009: $10.6 trillion Debt when Mr. Bush took office: $5.7 trillion (Source: U.S. Treasury Dept.)

Obama also is a failure when it comes to vacations:
http://jonox.livejournal.com/25625.html
487 days at Camp David
490 days at Crawford Ranch
43 days at Kennebunkport Compound

Total: 1020 days, more than 1/3rd of his presidency. Bush set the record for most vacation time taken by president.

Carter took 79 days in 4 years.
Clinton took 152 days in 8 years.

Reagan took 335 days in 8 years.
Bush Sr. took 543 days in 4 years!

So much for the mythological Republican hard worth ethic.

pfft! so he takes less time off from lying, than other notable liars, big deal.
One day you guys will admit he's a politician. Only then we can all have constructive conversation, about survival compounds in Wyoming where the women folk make corn mash from recycled piss, to power generators that powers the radio, the men folk coalesce around taking turns in shifts bending the rabbit ears, to get better reception of our daily rations of Obama's follies.

Carter took 79 days in 4 years.
Clinton took 152 days in 8 years.

So much for the mythological Republican hard worth ethic.

Vacation must be good.

Reagan and Bush Sr., two of the best presidents in the 20th century, took a lot of vacations. Clinton was pretty good, so he took quite some days off.

Carter, the worst president since LBJ, took only 79 days.

Working hard is useless if you are on the wrong path.

Tenouncetrout says

pfft! so he takes less time off from lying, than other notable liars, big deal.
One day you guys will admit he’s a politician. Only then we can all have constructive conversation, about survival compounds in Wyoming where the women folk make corn mash from recycled piss, to power generators that powers the radio, the men folk coalesce around taking turns in shifts bending the rabbit ears, to get better reception of our daily rations of Obama’s follies.

I think that we all agree that he's a politician. He's not the devil, he's not the worst president in the history of the US, he's just a guy who's been elected to try to get us out of this mess. His detractors don't want to give him a chance, his enemies choose to use misinformation and inuendo to ruin him... It's all political bullshit.

He's not my savior. He's a man trying to fix a mess that's years in the making. He's blamed for many things that he inherited. Our country if fucked up and it'll take years to fix, just like it took years to make. But in this time of immediate gratification and 24 hours news cycles, he was doomed from the start.

Why anyone would want to become president is beyond me. Of course, why anyone would think that Sarah Palin has a brain is beyond me too.

"His detractors don’t want to give him a chance, his enemies choose to use misinformation and inuendo to ruin him… It’s all political bullshit."
Oh brother I listened to the Dade County School board on NPR the other night driving home. And lemme tell ya, it's no wonder our youth are girl smackdown posted on youtube. The Adults in charge to manage the school system that teaches them are a freakin' Jerry Springer show.

Every one that got a chance to get up to the mic to voice their oppinion about budget cuts, got up there and were bitcching about being fired and were pointing fingers at vendictive co workers. And conspiracies of co-workers ganging up on them reflecting the out come of them being laid off in this tax revenue strapped time.

Now I'm thinking at first what petty sour grapes. But I'll be damned if some custodian lady or cafateria worker, I'm not sure exactly who or what these peoples roles or duties in our school system was, but I got the idea that they weren't teachers, as Chaniquia, went to accuse the Elderly gentlemen heading the meeting, as being her babies daddy, and as the reason for her being terminated. Of course the Board director or who ever this gentlemen was(I really have no interest in this stuff, but this stuff was really Jerry Springer, before it jumped the shark) didn't even respond only told her that if she's going to name names, he was going to cut her microphone off.

This meeting had everyone Pissed off custodians, cafeteria workers and a security guard who was fired for having a gun school grounds, where he played "Cops and Robbers" begging for his job back, which he apparently was doing as a volunteer anyway. He just wasn't supposed to be packing heat.

But every one made their failures out to be someone else was out to get them. A janitor who was saying a cousin got his cousin hired on and the two of them set out to get him. Altering their duties exempting them from scraping gum and cleaning toilets, and would taunt him when he had to do those menial tasks.

Ladies and gentlemen our next batch Grassroots change simmering to a boil right here in South Florida school board meetings.
I lost hope for our country getting anywhere. As I realized some where in that lot was destined to be connected to the 2010 and 2012 elections somehow somewhere.
I guess what I'm saying...

Great men don't have "Detractors"

trout--Tenouncetrout says

Great men don’t have “Detractors”

Really--Abe Lincoln had many, many detractors. George Washington had detractors. Everyone, no matter how great, has detractors.

You're beginning to sound like a crotchety old man. I'm expecting to hear how you had to walk to school in the bitter cold, with 2 ft. snow, uphill (both ways).

We're in a recession now. Things are bad. It's happened before, it will happen again. The world is not ending.... Relax and take a vacation somewhere warm and sunny with drinks that come with umbrellas. It won't seem so bad then.

They have them they just aren't important enough to let them prevent what ever great thing it is they are trying to do.

So let the pisants moan, you're supposed to sally forth.
This guy is always getting ready to go.

Trying to mandate I pay 1200 to 1800 a month is not a "GREAT" thing by the way. So history isn't being denied some great event.