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Silicon Valley Bank Goes Under, Won't be the Last...


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2023 Mar 10, 9:47am   36,088 views  323 comments

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To get out of the collapse in 2008, apparently the plan was to never raise interest rates again. Now that it's impossible, the bubble is moving to banks. Funny thing is, I had applied for an open position with them about a month ago. Now I know why I never heard back...

Oh yeah, and to once again blow away the bullshit about everyone being insured, read the article about how some depositors will have to pray dividend sales will someday return their deposits to them.

For some fun search bank run and see what some of the top images are.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/300-billion-reasons-why-svb-contagion-spreading-broader-banking-system


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300   Eric Holder   2023 May 2, 10:43am  

Another boutique bullshit bank. "Oh, they were so focused on customer care, made their clients feel sooo special and it made them soooo loyal to their special bank....". Right.
301   Ceffer   2023 May 2, 11:45am  

Wells Fargo has been kind of creepy for a while. I keep the account because it is a few decades old business account that costs nothing, as it has gone through several bank mergers from other banks from where it started, but they continue to honor it on mostly the original terms, which you can't get any more.

Every time I go into a branch, all of the suited minions remind me of arch vampires, examining and sniffing me. They have developed a very strange corporate culture.
303   NuttBoxer   2023 May 11, 8:52am  

More bad news for PacWest as the bank consolidation in preparation for the CDBC continues...

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/pacwest-shares-crash-after-reporting-deposit-flight-accelerated-last-week
304   NuttBoxer   2023 May 15, 9:03pm  

"“Almost half of the 4,800 banks in the US are nearly insolvent, as they have burned through their capital buffers, The Telegraph reported earlier this week, citing a group of banking experts. According to Professor Amit Seru, a banking expert at Stanford University, around half of US lenders are underwater. . . .Around 2,315 banks across the US are currently sitting on assets worth less than their liabilities, according to a Hoover Institution report by Professor Seru and a group of banking experts, as cited by the media. The market value of the loan portfolios of these lenders is reportedly $2 trillion lower than the stated book value.” From RT"

https://www.rt.com/business/575878-half-us-banks-insolvent/
305   Blue   2023 May 15, 10:05pm  

NuttBoxer says

The market value of the loan portfolios of these lenders is reportedly $2 trillion lower than the stated book value.”

That $2T+ will show up in inflation sooner or later.
306   Patrick   2023 May 15, 11:32pm  

Yes, the Fed will just buy the crap loans with money they just printed, sticking all of us with the inflation bill every day.

The Fed should not exist.
307   HeadSet   2023 May 16, 8:31am  

Blue says

That $2T+ will show up in inflation sooner or later.

Sooner.
308   NuttBoxer   2023 May 16, 8:43am  

Yep, bankruptcy and a return to fiscal responsibility, or hyperinflation. There are no other options.

I hope that second outcome makes everyone here think long and hard about their assets that are worthless without the dollar.
309   Misc   2023 May 18, 11:29pm  

Just because interest rates were extremely low during the last cycle, doesn't mean they can't go lower than that.

In Europe and Japan, you had negative interest rates. Yes, their populations put up with that nonsense.

There can be a huge amount of debt created if we allow negative interest rates.
310   HeadSet   2023 May 19, 8:09am  

Misc says

There can be a huge amount of debt created if we allow negative interest rates.

Negative interest rates can happen during deflation when no one wants to borrow because they will be paying back with more valuable dollars. Not likely to happen during inflationary times.
311   mell   2023 May 19, 8:18am  

HeadSet says

Misc says


There can be a huge amount of debt created if we allow negative interest rates.

Negative interest rates can happen during deflation when no one wants to borrow because they will be paying back with more valuable dollars. Not likely to happen during inflationary times.

I'd say it's a function of a large amount of money circulating pared with risk aversion. When EU and US were heavily engaged in QE, negative rates happened ion the EU for some t-bills cause the banks were literally saying, please take our money and invest!
312   NuttBoxer   2023 May 19, 8:21am  

Misc says

Just because interest rates were extremely low during the last cycle, doesn't mean they can't go lower than that.


Then why have they gone higher? The Fed would have preferred they stayed low, makes inflation easier. Ahh, but free market says a correction must come, so it does. The control you speak of isn't possible.
313   HeadSet   2023 May 19, 8:48am  

mell says

negative rates happened ion the EU for some t-bills cause the banks were literally saying, please take our money and invest!

That was actually done by the ECB as a ploy to lower the value of the Euro.
315   AD   2023 Dec 27, 3:09pm  

Regional banks stocks were damaged the most by the Fed Funds rate rising from 0.25% to 5.5% and to the highest level in 22 years. Many had long term US Treasuries as assets which dropped in value. Perhaps they will rally in 2024 or 2025 just like beaten down healthcare and energy stocks.



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316   Patrick   2023 Dec 27, 5:03pm  

@ad Is that an image of market cap of all stocks? If so, holy shit - that means that something close to a third of the whole market is just a few big tech stocks.

Where did you get that image from?
317   EBGuy   2023 Dec 27, 6:00pm  

Patrick says

Where did you get that image from?

That map is of the S&P500 market cap. It does give one pause when you see the entire energy sector is slightly smaller than Microsoft...
https://finviz.com/map.ashx
318   zzyzzx   2024 Mar 1, 7:07am  

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/29/shares-of-nycb-fall-more-than-10percent-after-bank-discloses-internal-controls-issue-ceo-change.html

Shares of NYCB fall more than 20% after bank discloses ‘internal controls’ issue, CEO change
319   stereotomy   2024 Mar 1, 4:22pm  

The US hasn't had a functional economy beginning in 1987 when the PPT (Plunge Protection Committee) was first formed to deal with the 500 point drop in the DJIA. With the 2009 housing meltdown, the Fed assumed unlimited authority to buy up any assets in any quantity to "maintain price stability."

EJ from iTulip gave up on predicting the economy because he was convinced that it was essentially non-functional and purely run on inputs from the government and the Fed.

Hell, just look at gold. The conclusion to the Triffin Dilemma is right behind the Fed curtain. Once the curtain rises . . .
320   AD   2024 Mar 1, 4:46pm  

Patrick says

ad Is that an image of market cap of all stocks? If so, holy shit - that means that something close to a third of the whole market is just a few big tech stocks.

Where did you get that image from?


The heat map is from the FinViz website. It is the S&P 500. True Patrick, as I think the top 10 stocks of the S&P 500 make up about 39% of its market cap.

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321   AD   2024 Mar 1, 4:56pm  

stereotomy says

EJ from iTulip gave up on predicting the economy because he was convinced that it was essentially non-functional and purely run on inputs from the government and the Fed.

Hell, just look at gold. The conclusion to the Triffin Dilemma is right behind the Fed curtain. Once the curtain rises . .


True as its a central planned or rigged economy. The Fed can come in and buy up US Treasuries when the federal government goes on a spending spree to ward off a recession.

At least in 2000 during the dot.com bust, a lot of bad companies (and bad debt) like Garden.com and Pets.com dissolved. They were plenty of other "jobbers" that eventually gone to the wayside including even Yahoo and AOL.

Winning companies or "non-ringers" made out of the dot com bust like Amazon and Microstrategy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dot-com_party#Resurgence

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322   AD   2024 Mar 1, 8:28pm  

zzyzzx says

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/29/shares-of-nycb-fall-more-than-10percent-after-bank-discloses-internal-controls-issue-ceo-change.html

Shares of NYCB fall more than 20% after bank discloses ‘internal controls’ issue, CEO change


Deja vu all over again ...the next Silicon Valley Bank now is New York Community Bank

how more insolvent or distressed regional banks are out there ?

Maybe when the Fed Funds rate gets lowered from 5.5% to 4.5% when the 6 month simple moving average for PCE is below 3% then the regional banks with long term Treasuries as assets will not be in as much distressed conditions.

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323   Booger   2024 Apr 27, 12:12pm  

Philadelphia Bank just failed.

https://fortune.com/2024/04/26/philadelphia-bank-implodes-failure/

Regulators have closed Republic First Bank, a regional lender operating in Pennsylvania, New Jersey and New York.

The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. said Friday it had seized the Philadelphia-based bank, which did business as Republic Bank and had roughly $6 billion in assets and $4 billion in deposits as of Jan. 31.

Fulton Bank, which is based in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, agreed to assume substantially all of the failed bank’s deposits and buy essentially all of its assets, the agency said.

Republic Bank’s 32 branches will reopen as branches of Fulton Bank as early as Saturday. Republic First Bank depositors can access their funds via checks or ATMs as early as Friday night, the FDIC said.

The bank’s failure is expected to cost the deposit insurance fund $667 million.

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