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2020 Feb 15, 5:45pm   8,973 views  143 comments

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58   PeopleUnited   2023 Dec 20, 9:24pm  

I recall her stating that she had two kids. Her husband also had two additional Adult children from a previous marriage per the daily mail article linked above.

It really is a sad story. Hard to believe a guy could be so cruel, calculating and reckless.

He destroyed her, took his kids mother away, destroyed his career and now is going to prison. For what? Jealousy? TDS?

It just is crazy how reckless and vindictive some people can be.

It is also crazy that Patnet played a role in her murder. She was a Trump supporter which is interesting. Does anyone recall her reasons for supporting Trump?

As for her and the murderer, I suspect that they had had more trouble than just a silly/stupid online post. It’s hard to believe it was a happy marriage considering how it ended.

But now this little forum is famous for hosting a murder victims too! If there weren’t feds watching the site before 2016, there certainly are now. I have my suspicions about a few posters here and there. And there are probably plenty of watchers that never post, they just lurk.

Did anyone read about the kid who leaked all this classified documents “discord leaks?” It is amazing the stuff that goes on online and how stupid people are online. What was that kid thinking? Of course he is going to get caught!!!

When the NWO globalists finally take over completely this site will be Shut down. They can’t allow a place where people speak their minds to exist. In the new world order only approved speech is free speech. All unapproved speech is insurrection in their totalitarian fake democracy.

God bless those children, and protect them from the evils of this world as much as possible. It is a reminder that every day is precious, we all will pass on someday.
59   AD   2023 Dec 20, 9:28pm  

PeopleUnited says

I recall her stating that she had two kids. Her husband also had two additional Adult children from a previous marriage per the daily mail article linked above.


Good point. I checked https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/latimes/name/susann-sills-obituary?id=8815015

She did have 2 kids who were twins with Dr Sills, and she also had two step children who were the children of Dr Sills.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"She was an alumna of George Mason University and was awarded an MBA (International Studies) from University of Miami in 2000. She is survived by her husband, Dr. E Scott Sills and their twins, Mary-Katherine Estelle Sills and Eric Scott Sills II"
60   Patrick   2023 Dec 20, 10:27pm  

Yes, she had twins and Dr. Sills is their father.
61   WookieMan   2023 Dec 21, 3:44am  

PeopleUnited says

It really is a sad story. Hard to believe a guy could be so cruel, calculating and reckless.

It is and it isn't about a guy being cruel. Some people just have that in them. I couldn't physically harm another person myself. When I hurt myself and am in pain I puke. Trauma is disgusting and I couldn't do it to someone else unless it involved an intruder or someone trying to physically hurt my family. My wife can piss me off till my heart is about to explode, but I ain't laying a hand on her in anger.
62   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2023 Dec 21, 4:51am  

Patrick says

she posted her tits as a kind of celebration that Trump got the nomination.

Shit! I didn’t realize that. So this is the site that she posted her tits on?
63   PeopleUnited   2023 Dec 21, 4:53am  

WookieMan says

a guy being cruel. Some people just have that in them.

I believe it was cruel because it was premeditated.
64   WookieMan   2023 Dec 21, 5:10am  

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

Patrick says


she posted her tits as a kind of celebration that Trump got the nomination.

Shit! I didn’t realize that. So this is the site that she posted her tits on?

Yup. I believe multiple people have been contacted by authorities, obviously including Patrick. I know some of my comments were quoted in news articles. It's fucked up and sad.
65   stereotomy   2023 Dec 21, 7:10am  

This is the second site/forum I belong to that has had a member either murder or be murdered. That being said, both PatNet and the other site have been inspirational.

RIP Turtledove. I'm glad justice has finally been done.
66   Al_Sharpton_for_President   2023 Dec 21, 7:46am  

Damn! I haven’t been following this. That’s fucked up.
67   Patrick   2023 Dec 21, 9:45am  

stereotomy says

This is the second site/forum I belong to that has had a member either murder or be murdered.


Wow, what was the other one?
68   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2023 Dec 21, 4:17pm  

now that case is settled, which police department was it in Patrick? i’ll go file a PRR for the case information. this story saddens me too, she was a cool member here. and then one day out of nowhere post about her being dead was chilling.
69   Patrick   2023 Dec 21, 4:20pm  

@FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden It was in Orange County.

I would be interested in getting a copy of my testimony. Maybe you can just post it here.
70   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2023 Dec 21, 4:35pm  

Patrick says


FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden It was in Orange County.

I would be interested in getting a copy of my testimony. Maybe you can just post it here.


this one? https://www.ocso.com/en-us/

typically it’s police that investigates within city limits, county is just jail. but i can be wrong. i’ll call records see what i find out.
71   Patrick   2023 Dec 21, 4:37pm  

I think this is better:

https://orangecountyda.org/
72   AmericanKulak   2023 Dec 21, 5:07pm  

Ceffer says


I guess there is such a thing as convergent evolution.

Turnabout is fair play. Muh Principled Conservatism got us to maximum wokeness.

Any student complaining about a Rainbow Flag has probably gotten the same treatment 1000x already, but would never make the Press
73   WookieMan   2023 Dec 21, 7:10pm  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

typically it’s police that investigates within city limits, county is just jail. but i can be wrong. i’ll call records see what i find out.

Towns/cities don't have courts. Always county, state or federal. It was Orange County for sure if you want to dig in. You're probably gonna have to FOIA it though. Police really have no role outside of initial on site investigation. Basically witness to what happened. Patrick's testimony would be county level.
74   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2023 Dec 21, 7:26pm  

WookieMan says

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says


typically it’s police that investigates within city limits, county is just jail. but i can be wrong. i’ll call records see what i find out.

Towns/cities don't have courts. Always county, state or federal. It was Orange County for sure if you want to dig in. You're probably gonna have to FOIA it though. Police really have no role outside of initial on site investigation. Basically witness to what happened. Patrick's testimony would be county level.


i want to read the police reports. but yeah for testimony is another records request.
75   WookieMan   2023 Dec 21, 7:31pm  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

i want to read the police reports. but yeah for testimony is another records request.

Court reports of testimony will be better. Police reported it was an accident. They didn't press charges literally until they read comments here and seemingly admitted as much to the media. So what you'd get from local police is gonna be vanilla unless for some reason they redacted their records.
76   just_passing_through   2023 Dec 21, 8:07pm  

I liked her. Never interacted with her but enjoyed the arguments and the tits were a nice addition.

She married a freakish psychopathic looking guy, just say'in.

He's a doctor! though!
77   Rin   2023 Dec 22, 12:04pm  

just_passing_through says

She married a freakish psychopathic looking guy,


That's for certain!

Here's the thing, TD and I never saw things in the same way, however, where we got into a spat was when she defended my sister, who has some version of Histrionic Personality Disorder, as if I were taking my brother-in-law's side of the story ... as if I was betraying a bloodline sister. The fact, however, is that my entire bloodline (parents, cousins, etc) was putting up with the sister for decades. In other words, TD was not some wise and sagacious soul who departs wisdom upon the planet. She's basically a person who lived in a glasshouse, playing indoor baseball and even told me that her marriage was some poster child of a success story. Well, getting murdered by the beloved husband kinda puts a damper on that narrative.

And judging by the limited data, which is now coming out from the closed case, it's pretty obvious that domestic violence was happening in the Sills household for some time, otherwise, Dr Sills wouldn't have left all that incriminating evidence in the bedroom for investigators to find. You don't need the expertise of a Quincy, nor a Crossing Jordan, nor ever a Matlock, to figure this case out. Dr Sills was probably oblivious to that fact and thus, the day when he 'lost his cool' and went for the full strangulation, he probably didn't even consider the fact that evidence was abound, that the Sills household wasn't that of sugar and spice.

We had a case like this in MA where a guy was starting to beat his wife, as a result of job/economic stresses, and when she finally decided to walk out on him, he murdered her and the kids, before blowing his brains out with a shotgun. I think that unlike Dr Sills, he knew that he wasn't getting acquitted so he took his own life instead.

just_passing_through says

He's a doctor! though!


And that's why she married him. TD was the daughter of a surgeon and expected a similar lifestyle as an adult.
78   GreaterNYCDude   2023 Dec 22, 12:35pm  

Does he have the opportunity to appeal? Or is this Game, Set, Match?
79   Patrick   2023 Dec 27, 7:30pm  

One of the jurors told me this:


We found him guilty of second-degree murder. Sentencing date March 15th 9:00 a.m. courtroom C40 the 10th floor
80   WookieMan   2023 Dec 27, 10:13pm  

GreaterNYCDude says

Does he have the opportunity to appeal? Or is this Game, Set, Match?

Appeal what? 12 people found him guilty. Fine. Pay attorneys. A women that age doesn't die from falling down stairs. Injured yes. Husband calls and deals with any wounds, he was a doctor for fucks sake. You're not dead. That's for the elderly. There's no way to slice this. I wasn't in the courtroom. Use some logic is all I'm gonna say. It's obvious he killed her.
82   Ceffer   2024 May 3, 7:55pm  

Too bad she has become food for tabloid. I doubt sensationalism will serve her memory.
83   GreaterNYCDude   2024 May 3, 7:59pm  

B.A.C.A.H. says

Her story will be on a two hour episode of Dateline tonight.

https://www.nbc.com/nbc-insider/eric-scott-sills-murdered-wife-susann-sills-staged-her-death

Caught the tail end of it. Sad all the way around. Feel bad for the kids and the family.
84   Patrick   2024 May 3, 8:25pm  

Ceffer says

Too bad she has become food for tabloid. I doubt sensationalism will serve her memory.


Exactly. I don't want the scummy networks making money off of her death.
85   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2024 May 3, 9:03pm  

tragic story, husband scumbag.
86   richwicks   2024 May 3, 9:36pm  

WookieMan says


Well that's quite the range. Sad overall. Feel bad for the kids


Kids?

These are broken people, they should not have had kids. I've abstained myself. I wouldn't want to put children through my experience. If you have a good childhood, great, repeat it. My parents felt they had an obligation. Both my parents I've eked out had a terrible childhood. My siblings say they had great ones, but who would admit they didn't?

Most people are animals, not people.
87   richwicks   2024 May 3, 9:43pm  

PeopleUnited says

It is also crazy that Patnet played a role in her murder.


That's bullshit. Think about what you are saying. This an outlet, I dump here all the time, as you know. This site does not play a part in my life, it is an outlet. I need an outlet. This moderates me, it doesn't radicalize me, probably to much the shock of people. I'm so frustrated with society.
88   Blue   2024 May 3, 10:58pm  

Sad that patrick.net site has been mentioned couple of times in the show... including some comments and name(s) above! He has been booked under second degree murder for 15 years!
@Tenpoundbass you might want to watch it!
Did anyone suspect, one of those two investigators in the show was @Strategist! I enjoyed his comments though!
89   WookieMan   2024 May 4, 5:40am  

richwicks says

These are broken people, they should not have had kids.

I haven't watched the show yet. Kids "should" make an adult a better person though. From your rants here I actually do appreciate that you didn't have kids for what that's worth if you even take it as a compliment.

I didn't really want kids as a young man. Had them and I wouldn't change a thing. Took my nephew in, wouldn't change a thing. I also also would never in my life imagine harming my wife. It's sad, but at the end of the day there was a sick dude. He probably should have made the decision of not having children like you did. Some can handle it, some can't. Some can handle being married, some can't. This was clearly a case of that.

Note I'll watch it and edit/add on to this comment if I'm wrong. I called it and I wish I was wrong. Can't turn back the clock.
90   Booger   2024 May 4, 6:42am  

How can I watch this episode now?
91   WookieMan   2024 May 4, 10:06am  

Booger says

How can I watch this episode now?

Not sure. Been busy this morning. I think you need Peacock or have watched it live. Someone will get a link here eventually.
92   Tenpoundbass   2024 May 4, 10:25am  

richwicks says

My parents felt they had an obligation. Both my parents I've eked out had a terrible childhood. My siblings say they had great ones, but who would admit they didn't?


You're probably too young to remember that you set the tone of your relationship with your parents in your first 3 to 5 years.
Some toddlers are petty spiteful assholes in the making. All of the stuff you broke out of spite and anger when you didn't get your way. Perhaps your siblings were easier to sort out at that age. So they developed a more cohesive bond with their parents.

My two adult daughters were the most easy going, no fuss, no muss kids anyone could have ever had. I felt like I won the kids lottery with those two. I adopted 3 babies back to back, due to unforeseen circumstances. And let me tell you, the difference in those three kids and my first two kids are night and day. I used to think my Dad was a miserable asshole cantankerous curmudgeon, but after these three kids. It got me reminiscing about my actions as a child. I too was a rough row to hoe. It took those kids for me reconcile the fact that my Dad did do a great job in raising me. And all of the discipline I got was my own doing, not because he was a big fat meanie. Actually I liked my teen years with my father better than my early childhood. Once I mellowed out and became someone he could communicate with. We did more together. I have some fond bonding memories of us in my teens. That took these three Little Rascals to jog my memory how my childhood really was. It wasn't as bad as I remembered it was for years. And all of the crap I resented my father for in my childhood was really my own doing.
93   mell   2024 May 4, 11:00am  

Tenpoundbass says

but after these three kids. It got me reminiscing about my actions as a child. I too was a rough row to hoe. It took those kids for me reconcile the fact that my Dad did do a great job in raising me. And all of the discipline I got was my own doing, not because he was a big fat meanie. Actually I liked my teen years with my father better than my early childhood. Once I mellowed out and became someone he could communicate with. We did more together. I have some fond bonding memories of us in my teens. That took these three Little Rascals to jog my memory how my childhood really was. It wasn't as bad as I remembered it was for years. And all of the crap I resented my father for in my childhood was really my own doing.

This. Most men develop a better relationship with their Dad as they grow from boys to men, understanding that discipline is necessary and how hard a tantruming child can be on their hard working parents, especially the Dad as womyn are used to drama, causing a lot themselves. Asswhoopings are necessary
94   mell   2024 May 4, 11:02am  

Also most toddlers and young boys these days are socially inept and completely misbehaved, can't take them anywhere unless you want to be the asshole and make the hosts suffer. Plenty of times where I have advised a parent to give their kid a good spanking or remove them from my vicinity. Thee parents don't do their kids any favor, they ruin their future by making them unsociable. You need both the good and the hard times to mature
95   Blue   2024 May 4, 12:02pm  

mell says

Thee parents don't do their kids any favor, they ruin their future by making them unsociable. You need both the good and the hard times to mature

Some parents are not bad but naive or lack of skills trying to make the kid happy ALL the time and miss the opportunity for the kid to learn very important values in time and put him/her on a wrong path inadvertently irrespective of their financial status in my simple observation around. Life is short, karma very likely bites back to address all the bad deeds.
96   Patrick   2024 May 4, 1:10pm  

Tenpoundbass says


I used to think my Dad was a miserable asshole cantankerous curmudgeon, but after these three kids. It got me reminiscing about my actions as a child. I too was a rough row to hoe. It took those kids for me reconcile the fact that my Dad did do a great job in raising me. And all of the discipline I got was my own doing, not because he was a big fat meanie. ... That took these three Little Rascals to jog my memory how my childhood really was. It wasn't as bad as I remembered it was for years. And all of the crap I resented my father for in my childhood was really my own doing.


I had a similar experience. I thought my dad was awful until later when I realized he was actually a great dad.
97   thenuttyneutron   2024 May 4, 1:12pm  

I am half way through the show. I recall seeing the photo a long time ago but thought nothing more about it. I am sad to hear that it ended so badly.

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