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Ceffer says

Intel agency storefront doesn't care that 'genuine defamation' is lost in the bully pulpit subversion of the Constitution, which is the real target, just like feminism's target is destruction of the nuclear family, not women's rights.

Yes. Post Marxists and Globalists know that if they're just one opinion amongst many without special treatment by Media and Government, their views will be subject to criticism, and will "Prevent" the coming Technocrat Expert Global Government leading to (near) Utopia. Since persons and firms and other organizations prefer their liberties to outside control, Globaloney/Post-Marxism can never take hold in such an environment under normal conditions.

Therefore, nationalism, populism, and especially Liberty-based ideas must be crushed by using the power of Culture and Government. NGOs underwritten by Corporations and Governments are a perfect mechanism to get around legal restrictions (Shareholder Interest laws, 1A and State Constitution Free Speech) to use the wealth of the latter to achieve the ends under the guise of concerned Public Interest Groups.

Like the ADL, but also the Brennan Center, or this vile Global-fascist Front group, Liberties.eu:
https://www.liberties.eu/en/stories/ngo-why-they-are-needed-accountability-democracy-civil-organisation/11727

Patrick says

I believe the natural conclusion of unrestrained liberalism without boundaries is paedophilia and that is not a good thing.

Good summary.

AmericanKulak says

to use the wealth of the latter to achieve the ends under the guise of concerned Public Interest Groups

One problem is that there is nothing in the Constitution to protect the public from the power of extreme wealth to effectively censor free speech.

It's all about Globalism and Repressive Tolerance. Omidyar is a notorious globalist and anti-Zionist who fired Greenwald from the Organization he founded for not towing the Globaloney line.

https://www.jta.org/2017/03/12/united-states/anti-defamation-league-announces-new-silicon-valley-center-to-combat-hate-online
https://www.meforum.org/62170/ebay-founder-funds-anti-us-anti-israel-scholars

AmericanKulak says

It's all about Globalism and Repressive Tolerance. Omidyar is a notorious globalist and anti-Zionist who fired Greenwald from the Organization he founded for not towing the Globaloney line.

https://www.jta.org/2017/03/12/united-states/anti-defamation-league-announces-new-silicon-valley-center-to-combat-hate-online
https://www.meforum.org/62170/ebay-founder-funds-anti-us-anti-israel-scholars

Globaloney - I like it.

Patrick says

This “controversy” causes advertisers to “pause”, but that pause is permanent until ADL gives the green light, which they will not do without us agreeing to secretly suspend or shadowban any account they don’t like.

If advertisers depend on advertisement to sell their product, wouldn't this hurt the advertiser?

I think what we are on the verge of discovering is that advertisement doesn't actually increase product sales for the most part, that something else is going on.

Ron Coleman: "The ADL Has Lost Its Way. Elon Musk Is Right to Stand Up to Its Censorship"
https://www.newsweek.com/adl-has-lost-its-way-elon-musk-right-stand-censorship-opinion-1824691

Chaya Raichik (Libs of TikTok): "The ADL tried to deplatform me on X after defaming me"
https://humanevents.com/2023/09/04/libs-of-tiktok-the-adl-tried-deplatform-me-on-x-after-defaming-me-and-now-elon-musk-plans-to-expose-them


(She literally uploads TikToks of insane Trannies vowing to kill people who 'misgender' them)

richwicks says

I think what we are on the verge of discovering is that advertisement doesn't actually increase product sales for the most part, that something else is going on.

Whether advertising works, that's an issue - but advertising is the revenue basis for most Social Media. Punish with reduced advertising revenue to threaten social media into exercising Repressive Tolerance, which Speech is permitted is determined by NGOs underwritten by the Wealthy, by shadowy Foundations, and often Government grants. That way the secular, globalist corporate progressive viewpoint wins by default.

AmericanKulak says

Whether advertising works, that's an issue - but advertising is the revenue basis for most Social Media.

It's the CONDUIT to pay them off.

What I'm suggesting is that advertising isn't about advertising - it's about control.

Raytheon and Lockheed Martin doesn't have commercials on television in order to sell airplanes. They place advertisements there to guarantee that the "news" there promotes war.

Ever notice those annoying commercials where they are advertising a drug, don't tell you what ailment the drug treats, and just tell you to ask your doctor about it? Who the hell goes to their doctor to ask about a drug for which they have ABSOLUTELY no idea what the drug does?

Advertisement is mostly about controlling the propaganda and narrative, NOT about selling the product other than to have the narrative enable selling of the product. The reason that people concerned with vaccines were banned from Facebook isn't because "this is dangerous for children", it was dangerous for the bottom line of drug manufacturers. It doesn't matter a bit to Facebook if vaccines are dangerous or worthless or not. They don't care. They are bribed through advertisement to prevent discussion on that topic.

richwicks says

What I'm suggesting is that advertising isn't about advertising - it's about control.

Raytheon and Lockheed Martin doesn't have commercials on television in order to sell airplanes. They place advertisements there to guarantee that the "news" there promotes war.

Nobody is disagreeing with that. Advertising is revenue, and (Social) Media depends on Revenue. Hence getting advertisers to quit advertising until Media practices Repressive Tolerance on Speech-They-Hate is a form of social engineering.

Thought exercise: say that the Federal Reserve can just increment the bank account of anyone the ADL suggests. Then boycotts have no effect. Advertisers will get whatever cash they need anyway - created on the spot.

So the people running the Fed can:

1. reward advertisers who comply with the agenda
2. protect advertisers who are boycotted for complying with the agenda

This is one reason we need hard silver metal coins as money, with everything else marked "Only a debt, may default."

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/al-sharpton-jonathan-greenblatt-adl

You’re not confused. The ADL Is Becoming as Bad as You Think.

https://www.newsweek.com/pro-trump-cartoonist-sues-adl-10-million-calling-him-anti-semitic-1517808

Pro-Trump Cartoonist Sues ADL for $10 Million for Calling Him Anti-Semitic
BY AILA SLISCO ON 7/14/20 AT 7:36 PM EDT

The lawsuit, filed on July 10, seeks $10.35 million in damages. It claims that the ADL caused Garrison "insult, embarrassment, humiliation, mental suffering, anguish, injury to his name and professional reputation, and loss of business" by alleging anti-Semitism in a 2017 cartoon featuring liberal Jewish philanthropist George Soros, a frequent figure of scorn by the far-right.

Whatever happened with this lawsuit?

Patrick says

Thought exercise: say that the Federal Reserve can just increment the bank account of anyone the ADL suggests.

When I say the Federal Reserve is our government, I'm not exaggerating or kidding.

I go back to ADL being an Intel store front. The idea that they have an anchoring justification based on justice fades. The Intels operate according to psychopathy, that the ends justifies the means, whatever the methods or the people you beguile to execute those methods. The idea of financing such groups as boiler room covers is so common now, that any group with a nominally altruistic banner or name has to be questioned.

ADL from the get go trained and ran infiltration agents under false identities and false premises, classic legend creations and sheep dipping, into many organizations that they deemed as anticipatory intelligence gathering and rabble rousing. Those aren't the actions of a moral or philosophical organizational stance, they are tradecraft.

The good ole Peace Corps was used a spy front, which is why they wound up kicked out of countries. My ex BIL's(BIL was in Foreign Service State Department) brother was in the Peace Corps, starting in Africa and winding up in the Far East. When I saw a picture of him from Thailand, I thought, that's no hippy altruist, that is an obvious steely eyed spy dude.

Now, ADL manufacture the 'problems' to suit the agendas of their Intel patronage. The Intels don't care about credibility, they think they have won, and they only look at cause, effect and mapping of apparent 'success'. Maybe they are just running out the ADL as an expiring boiler room op milked for its last vestiges of useful bullshit, or it will become an established censorship and anti-Constitution branch enshrined in the Deep State.

Ceffer says

The Intels don't care about credibility, they think they have won, and they only look at cause, effect and mapping of apparent 'success'.

This is what "pride comes before the fall".

Their arrogance is actually wonderful.

Yes, I think arrogance is really the core motivation for the ADL/CIA/NIH corruption.

They think that they are smarter, and thus entitled to rule over the lesser beings who are all mere cattle anyway.

Sam Bankman-Fried personifies this attitude.

Yeah, this seems to be a little far afield from the defamation conceit.
"EXCLUSIVE
PayPal’s Unholy Alliance With ADL Opens the Door to a Massive Security Breach"

"As will soon become clear, PayPal’s deal with the disgraced ADL ought to be treated as seriously as a massive data breach or hack of its users’ information. Earlier this year a hacker going by the moniker “God User” posted information on over over 700 million LinkedIn profiles on the DarkWeb; in 2019 Facebook experienced a devastating data breach concerning over 500 million users, whose information appeared online. Paypal sharing its user data with a radical political organization with a possible history of illegal activity must be treated with no less seriousness. In fact, the situation is far worse, as PayPal is intentionally inflicting this vulnerability on its users; unlike the data breaches described above, PayPal seems to have no intention of fixing the situation."

https://revolver.news/2021/08/paypals-unholy-alliance-with-adl-opens-the-door-to-a-massive-security-breach/

Patrick says

Patrick says

Whatever happened with this lawsuit?

Dismissed by the judge for failure to make a claim.

BUT, I did see something that the ADL did pay somebody ~$10M recently for defamation, I'm trying to track it down.

ADL and SPLC have been extortionist scum for a very long time. I'm glad they've pushed things too far and people are finally waking up to the dishonest scam these slimy crooks are running.

Same goes for big pharma and their vaccine racket. They pushed it too far, now people have starting sharing evidence that not only these shots are useless/harmful, but other shots as well. I have great distrust for that industry now. The only vaccine I'll ever again take in my life at this point, or get my kids to take, is a rabies shot if we're bitten by some wild animal.

Karloff says

Same goes for big pharma and their vaccine racket. They pushed it too far, now people have starting sharing evidence that not only these shots are useless/harmful, but other shots as well.

@Karloff I agree.

The good news is that their truly outrageous demand that billions of healthy people get an experimental gene-modifying injection woke up a lot of people to the existing insanity of recommending ~70 injections for children, and barring children from schools if the pharma industry is denied a profit off of those children.

LOL! Their mission is to lawfare, extort, infiltrate, disinform, spy on and bankrupt as many non-MSM owned non-propagada outlets and voices as possible.

Be careful what you wish for. Big Mike always gets sloppy seconds.

Wow! Paper Mache and curtain rods really last a long time on the moon.

https://t.me/volmemes/29611

Ceffer says

LOL! Their mission is to lawfare, extort, infiltrate, disinform, spy on and bankrupt as many non-MSM owned non-propagada outlets and voices as possible.

The building owned by Craigslist at 222 Sutter in San Francisco is landlord to far-left magainze Mother Jones, among others. Craigslist is on the top floor. I know because I used to work there.

Craig personally funds Mother Jones:

https://www.motherjones.com/media/2018/08/craigslist-founder-craig-newmark-makes-1-million-gift-to-mother-jones/

I wonder if the building with the ADL and FBI is owned by one or the other.

I wish there was an alt to craigslist, it was perfect. I won't touch Facebook with a 10' pole, or Michele Obama's dick, same difference.

Maybe public sq could make one.

Many people have tried, but Craigslist has that first mover advantage, where everyone knows Craigslist already.

Huh, this article is from Aug 22, before the current flap:

https://anarchonomicon.substack.com/p/short-take-are-jews-the-american

Maybe at one point the ADL actually advanced Jewish interests, but at this point it's prettymuch entirely an organ for attacking American's historic free speech rights for the most corrupt aspects of the American regime, using appropriated jewish trauma to justify, empower, and enrich itself...

There is probably no organization on earth that is more actively dangerous to Jews living in America than the ADL going about trying to actively tie the Jewish diaspora to the mast of an increasingly despised and hated censorship/security/warfare state, that is already showing signs of taking on water. Jews who many of whom actively resent the censorship wars and wasted tax money themselves.

The challenge is that noticing the class and structural conflict reveals how difficult the problem actually is to solve, and how interests, not uniformly across ethnicities, but for countless people, genuinely do diverge.

TL; DR : There is a major Class conflict between Flyover Americans and the Administrative/ bureaucratic state, Jews are disproportionately represented in the Administrative State... most likely by regime design as countless states have done with vulnerable minorities... Risking that the class conflict will turn into an ethnic conflict.

Dual citizenship neocon kapos, operating as a wedge of morally and ethically indifferent executive hatchet men class in government, ultimately being sacrificed as sin eating knights and bishops by the Globalist machines, absorbing all the obloquy and hatred, could be a thing.

It would be consistent with the Globalists and NWO, failing on the world stage, dissolving their store fronts in return to anonymity, changing their names and titles while heading out the back doors with their creaking tomes of Satan sanctified bloodlines and tunnels full of stolen treasures, to rise again under different aegis.

They would regard it as another bout of misdirection, reducing the world to ashes to bed their new Phoenician phoenix.

Somebody proffered an hypothetical list of the 'Committee of 300' (supposedly the layer under the Swiss Octagon), and it was loaded with European Royalty titles, many of them entirely obscure to the public mind.

LOL! A demolition sledge hammer for every tack and nail.

Patrick says

Mark Levin was being attacked as an Aunty Semite today on twitter for applauding the potential ADL defamation case.

Here's a great piece:

No More ADL
When it comes to Jews, the organization now does more harm than good
BY LIEL LEIBOVITZ

Kyrie Irving, a kooky basketball player who believes that the Earth is flat, that JFK was shot by bankers, that the COVID vaccines were secretly a plot to connect all Black people to a supercomputer, and that Jews worship Satan and launched the slave trade?

Or Jonathan Greenblatt, the head of the Anti-Defamation League, who accepted $500,000 from Irving last week without even meeting or even talking to the all-star—and who was then forced to give back the donation when Irving blatantly refused to apologize?

Let’s think about it for a minute. One of these guys is a weirdo with dumb opinions he may or may not actually believe. The other is running a soulless racket which just made it clear that you can say whatever you want about the Jews and buy your indulgences at a discount price.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/no-more-adl-liel-liebovitz-kyrie-irving

Right, if ADL was legit, they'd ask to speak to Irving, not give him a freakin' Indulgence for 500 Florins to be paid to the Cathedral of St. Greenblatt of the Acceptable Speech.

https://twitter.com/stclairashley/status/1699941308423426344



Very creative fundraising!

https://twitter.com/OzraeliAvi/status/1699998388266160457

Avi Yemini
@OzraeliAvi
Orthodox Jewish Rabbi BLASTS the ADL

Thank you @BaseballPesach for eloquently articulating what so many of us in our community feel.

STOP. THE. ADL.

Orthodox Jews are pretty reliably conservative.

Around Santa Cruz, you hear the people who suckle at the breast of propaganda and defend it. In attempting to broaden anybody's 'Overton Window', the process of grief over denial being dismantled needs to be addressed.

The person in denial hears information that is uncomfortable truth, and they simply deny it and shrug it off at first. If they keep hearing it, they then try various strategies to minimize the information (conspiracy theorists, etc. these strategies are often provided to them by the propaganda, like the belittling 'smirk' that the propaganda bots talking heads use). The next stage is anger and retaliation that the truth is intruding on their blue pill comfort zone. If the person actually wakes up, the next stage is depression due to the disturbing realization that what they thought they knew was false or deceptive, and they were had. After that comes recognition, acceptance, and solidification of the sense of self and the new insights.

However, those first seeds need to be planted and insisted upon, and the truth seekers need to realize they will go through an unpleasant process during the early stages of denial. People will break through at their own pace.

The anti free speech Intel ops like ADL try to amplify, enforce and institutionalize the 'anger and retaliation' phase with lawfare and extortion and guilt tripping to prevent the acclimation and acceptance of the free speech information. ADL has gotten absurd and is a parody.

All just fake, for attention?