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Misc says

The pro-Ukrainian NGOs stated themselves that only about 200 people were killed in about 500 attacks. If Russia had purposefully attacked the medical facilities of the Ukraine the death toll would have been easily in the tens of thousands. Were Ukrainian units stationed near these facilities? I would probably say yes, thus Russia was permitted to attack those military units.

I agree that in a single deliberate attack on a hospital there would easily be a few hundred casualties. I concede that I don't have any information so show that it was not the Ukraine that first attacked civilian infrastructure.

You use phrases such as "Russia was permitted", and, "retaliatory measures are allowed". Are these your personal beliefs, or are referring to certain treaties or other legislation?

yawaraf says

I agree that in a single deliberate attack on a hospital there would easily be a few hundred casualties. I concede that I don't have any information so show that it was not the Ukraine that first attacked civilian infrastructure.

You use phrases such as "Russia was permitted", and, "retaliatory measures are allowed". Are these your personal beliefs, or are referring to certain treaties or other legislation?

There's no rules in war.

Russia has found that time is on their side. They are apparently are going to go through a war of attrition recognizing this war is actually one against the United States and NATO.

The US commonly destroys infrastructure. The US has killed an estimated 9 million people in the last 20 years in 7 wars, which you can't even name. Russia is just going to sit back and let Europe crumble, which is the United States' mad dog. This war is likely to go on for years.

How happy is it, to Russia, that the destruction of the Nordstream I and II can be blamed on the United States, and with the stupid statements of Biden promising that those pipelines would be shut down one way or another? Russia may not only destroy NATO, but the EU itself. If the EU wasn't run by a bunch of quisling traitors, 20 years ago, Europe would have made alliances with Russia and pulled Russia into modernity and democracy, if they weren't run by traitors - controlled by the United States.

https://slaynews.com/news/european-officials-reach-limit-with-joe-biden-accuse-usa-of-profiting-from-war-in-ukraine-report/

“The fact is, if you look at it soberly, the country that is most profiting from this war is the U.S. because they are selling more gas and at higher prices, and because they are selling more weapons,” one senior official told politico.

“We are really at a historic juncture,” the official added before complaining about trade disruption from U.S. subsidies and high energy prices.

“America needs to realize that public opinion is shifting in many EU countries.”

Rockefeller stooge Biden Actor creating artificial shortages of fuel to jack up inflated, speculative prices for his masters. How sweet it is. Wouldn't want those pesky Russkie pipelines keeping the prices down.

https://slaynews.com/news/biden-admin-unable-account-20-billion-us-aid-sent-ukraine/

Biden Admin Unable to Account for $20 Billion in U.S Aid Sent to Ukraine

I bet they would find that "lost" $20 billion if they were to look in their own pockets.

Patrick says

https://slaynews.com/news/biden-admin-unable-account-20-billion-us-aid-sent-ukraine/

Biden Admin Unable to Account for $20 Billion in U.S Aid Sent to Ukraine

I bet they would find that "lost" $20 billion if they were to look in their own pockets.

Biden looks inside pocket: oh how did all this money get here?

https://zero-sum.org/us-aid-to-ukraine-invested-in-crypto-ftx-scheme/

Nobody has even commented on Ukraine in 2 days and it's no longer in the "news". Almost like it's yet another US war for money laundering that will drag on for a few years, if not decades.

richwicks says

Nobody has even commented on Ukraine in 2 days and it's no longer in the "news". Almost like it's yet another US war for money laundering that will drag on for a few years, if not decades.

The establishment is trying to figure a way to appease the peasants after proclaiming that the Ukrainians are winning since the military operations started.

They may be in negotiations with the Russians about ending the conflict, but since that would be admitting that the Russians get to keep territory, it wouldn't play well for the TV audience. They gotta get it out of the news for a while for them to spin it properly.

Misc says

They may be in negotiations with the Russians about ending the conflict, but since that would be admitting that the Russians get to keep territory, it wouldn't play well for the TV audience. They gotta get it out of the news for a while for them to spin it properly.

The US will drag this war out for as long as possible - for at LEAST 6 more months if not years, and when it ends, I bet there's barely a mention of it in "the news". The US will claim "Ukraine won" (no matter WHAT happens to Ukraine) and that "Russia lost" and the US "news" media will parrot that bullshit endlessly

https://babylonbee.com/news/absentminded-joe-biden-accidentally-mails-stimulus-checks-to-defense-contractors-instead-of-americans

https://babylonbee.com/news/zelensky-seen-sitting-on-mall-santas-lap-asking-for-another-50-billion

Duh, the reasons are that Ukraine:

1. is useful for money laundering "aid" back to Democrats' pockets
2. has strong evidence of the Biden Crime Family's corruption
3. has evidence of US bioweapons production

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/ukrainian-president-zelenskys-wife-goes-paris-begs-money-goods-reportedly-goes-40000-euro-shopping-spree/

Ukrainian President Zelensky’s Wife Goes to Paris and Begs for Money and Goods Then Reportedly Goes on 40,000 Euro Shopping Spree

https://notthebee.com/article/reports-show-that-very-little-of-the-aid-sent-from-the-united-states-and-europe-to-ukraine-is-getting-to-its-intended-recipients-including-weapons

To date, the United States, the European Union, and a handful of other countries have sent $100 billion in aid to Ukraine, including weapons and "other" aid like piles of cash. According to a "sensitive but unclassified" cable from the United States embassy in Kyiv, reported on by Politico, there's been some difficulty tracking where all this aid is going.

U.S. Ambassador Bridget Brink, who sent the cable, says that chaos on the ground and a history of corruption makes wars like the one in Ukraine very expensive and difficult to track.

In April, Jonas Ohman, the president of an organization moving aid into Ukraine, said that only 30-40% of aid was making it to its intended destination.

African nations have complained that weapons the West has sent to Ukraine to aid in its fight against Russia have started to pour into their nations via Ukrainian arms dealers.

Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari warned,

Regrettably, the situation in the Sahel and the raging war in Ukraine serve as major sources of weapons and fighters that bolster the ranks of the terrorists in the region.

He is referring to the Boko Haram terrorists eradicating Christians across the region for those keeping track.

Stinger and Javelin missiles sent to Kiev are being sold on the black market in Albania and Kosovo.

The Finnish National Bureau of Investigation said intelligence suggests that some of the weapons sent to Ukraine had made their way to Finland, Sweden, Denmark, and the Netherlands and were being used by motorcycle gangs.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/12/14/us-ukraine-aid-cable-00073803

Patrick says

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/ukrainian-president-zelenskys-wife-goes-paris-begs-money-goods-reportedly-goes-40000-euro-shopping-spree/

Ukrainian President Zelensky’s Wife Goes to Paris and Begs for Money and Goods Then Reportedly Goes on 40,000 Euro Shopping Spree

“Reliable store clerk” (with no name) - that's solid evidence right there! Right on par with "safe and effective vaccine".

https://babylonbee.com/news/congress-warns-of-government-shutdown-if-we-dont-fund-ukraine-by-friday

Patrick says

Musk is pretending to be incapable of understanding very simple things. Most of that $45B is old military hardware, originally made and useful for pushing CCCP Commie KGB fuckers shit up to their esophaguses, but not much else. You don't really close Mexican border with Patriot batteries and HIMARS launchers. Dems don't want border security no matter what and GOPers currently have no power to force them, so what's he point of all this crying and gnashing of the teeth? They got what they could get now, whatever it is. The elections are over and results are baked in. Come January, if GOPers are smart, they could negotiate increased border security in exchange for continuing of well-deserved whooping of Pukin's ass. But if somebody loudly screams about border security but turns around and cries about big bad mean USA picking on poor little Pooty-poot we'll know that border security is not their real priority.

Patrick says

https://babylonbee.com/news/congress-warns-of-government-shutdown-if-we-dont-fund-ukraine-by-friday

that’s reality not jokes

Even if the Irish of Northern Ireland got Congress to vote to give them billions to fight the British, I still would not support that.

It's not America's job.

https://babylonbee.com/news/dangerous-insurrectionists-take-over-capitol

https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-nervous-as-his-boss-drops-by-unexpectedly

Eric Holder says

Musk is pretending to be incapable of understanding very simple things

That, or sarcasm.