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Remember when they couldn't give Florida urban condos away.

I agree that there is no way they are now worth double, but it's also true that DeSantis has greatly increased the value of Florida real estate as a refuge from the evil of wokeness.

If the housing market remains stagnant, I doubt that the National Association of Realtors will sit idle. The fucking realtors and mortgage officers need to make money too.

gabbar says

@Wookieman says declining home prices are unpossible.

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

Realtors, take note! Wet pavement suggests wet pussy.

Yes, but that wet pavement leads to a 3 gar garage.....

This is in one of the nice parts of Baltimore City:

Booger says

This is in one of the nice parts of Baltimore City:

There is only 1 nice part of Baltimore City. The Inner Harbor. And even that ain't so nice since both Stadiums are right there also.

Fells Point has some nice restaurants. And what other city has a Bromo-Seltzer clock tower?

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

Fells Point has some nice restaurants. And what other city has a Bromo-Seltzer clock tower?

My brother had a gun pulled on him on the dance floor in Fells Point. If you remember Hammer Jacks (best f'ing bar I've ever been to), I witnessed a girl hit a guy over the head with a bottle of beer. The top of his whole scalp peeled down over his face. Damn crazy ass place. Girls routinely got on the bar and took their tops off jiggling their titties for all to see.

Patrick says

He predicted that within the next few years, housing prices could drop up to 25 percent, and that they will begin to decline in early 2023, which could see double-digit drops in prices.

Disagree. Everyone has substantial equity if they bought in the last 5 years or back to 2010ish. We don't have shit loans to unqualified borrowers. People are holding/living in their homes longer. It will stagnate for sure, but I don't see drops until spec building picks up. Might be happening in some spots of the country. Not here.

There's no quality labor. Building is at maybe 1/10th of what it was during the boom & bust. A 25% crash in prices is massive. Just because we lived through a once in a lifetime event doesn't mean it will happen again. Coastal regions are off my radar though. Flyover country is fine outside of hipster hot pockets. Not a chance I lose $50k on my home over the next 2-3 years without a civil war or some other geopolitical event.

WookieMan says

We don't have shit loans to unqualified borrowers.

ARM's and HELOC's are back. Supposedly 27% of homeowners have a HELOC...

WookieMan says

Just because we lived through a once in a lifetime

More than once in my lifetime already, and I'm 56.

WookieMan says

A 25% crash in prices is massive. Just because we lived through a once in a lifetime event doesn't mean it will happen again.

25% decline is massive for real estate if you are thinking of a decline as a percentage from the top. But if it's just a correction for the recent 40% gain, it'll only be setting prices back to what they were before the covid. In my area, it won't even be going back to pre-covid prices.

I just found out that 2 of my friends who work in IT industry have purchased rental properties in 2019 (1 purchased 8 single family homes and the other bought 2 single family homes) as side hustles. They are renting it out to students and other IT employees. The purchases were made in Austin, TX and Columbus, OH.

So, is this a sound and profitable side hustle?

gabbar says

I just found out that 2 of my friends who work in IT industry have purchased rental properties in 2019 (1 purchased 8 single family homes and the other bought 2 single family homes) as side hustles. They are renting it out to students and other IT employees. The purchases were made in Austin, TX and Columbus, OH.

So, is this a sound and profitable side hustle?

Depends on their cost basis and management style. If the revenue is not covering costs, then most likely, no. Ask them.

Generally, real estate investing is very tax efficient, it's better than a W-2 at times with the deductions.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-06-24/over-8-million-americans-are-late-on-rents-as-prices-increase

More Than 8 Million Americans Are Late on Rent as Prices Increase

zzyzzx says

More Than 8 Million Americans Are Late on Rent as Prices Increase

zzyzzx says

@Wookieman told me that was unpossible. Are you sure this is correct?

https://www.reddit.com/r/RealEstate/comments/weidlb/my_house_finally_sold_after_2_months/

My house finally sold after 2 months and for $75,000 less than the original buyer.

https://www.businessinsider.com/housing-market-bubble-crash-prices-bank-executives-fear-meltdown-survey-2021-10

78% of community bank executives expect the housing market to crash by 2026

zzyzzx says

https://www.businessinsider.com/housing-market-bubble-crash-prices-bank-executives-fear-meltdown-survey-2021-10

78% of community bank executives expect the housing market to crash by 2026

18% up in one year particularly in a very nonproductive year period is completely wrong to begin with. At least this much amount needs to be fixed. But again gov gave away trillions to top 1% that money will chases things like RE. Gov and it’s corrupt policies on fake Covid end up hurting most.

https://rudy.substack.com/p/if-there-must-be-madness-something

Testing new name.

https://www.reddit.com/r/REBubble/comments/wg0kx4/price_drop_60k_14_starting_to_see_big_drops_north/

Price Drop 60k (~14%) Starting to see big drops north of Atlanta

https://www.housingwire.com/articles/foa-cuts-workforce-amid-company-restructuring-market-downturn/

FoA cuts workforce amid company restructuring, market downturn
Texas-based lender had large-scale layoffs in the second and third quarters of 2022

The company loan origination volume fell to $5.1 billion in the first quarter, down 26% from the prior quarter and 39% from the first quarter of 2021. Overall, FoA delivered a $64 million loss in the first quarter of 2022. (The company is expected to report second-quarter earnings on Thursday.)

FoA cut roughly 600 jobs between March 2021 and March 2022.

FoA - Full of Asshoes?

Patrick says

https://rudy.substack.com/p/if-there-must-be-madness-something

This is brilliant lol

https://www.housingwire.com/articles/rockets-profits-drop-dramatically-to-60m-in-q2-2022/

Rocket Mortgage’s profits drop dramatically in Q2 2022

Rocket Companies, the parent of America’s top mortgage lender Rocket Mortgage, reported a $60 million profit in the second quarter, down dramatically from $1 billion just the previous quarter. Company executives attributed the sharp decline to a stronger than expected drop in purchase business.

The stunning decline in profitability suggests Rocket has much work to do in a tough market as higher mortgage rates wipe out refinancing opportunities and even depress purchase deals. To boot, its strategy to add new products and services hasn’t been enough to offset the decline in origination volume.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/home-sellers-cut-prices-as-housing-market-cools-11659671674

Home Sellers Cut Prices as Housing Market Cools

Jennie Jackson, 33 years old, listed her three-bedroom Las Vegas home for $465,000 earlier this summer. In March, her neighbor sold a comparable home for about $485,000, she said. Over the course of about 35 days, she cut the price three times. She recently accepted an offer for about $405,000.

“I thought this may be the highest offer I’ll get so let me get out while the going is good,” said Ms. Jackson.

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/05/-santanders-tim-wennes-a-shakeout-among-mortgage-lenders-is-coming.html

A ‘shakeout’ among mortgage lenders is coming, according to CEO of bank that left the business

https://www.barrons.com/articles/housing-market-prices-bubble-51658863104

This Housing Market Won’t Be Like Last Time. History Still Has Lessons.

1977-1982, The Great Inflation Housing Bubble: Real, inflation-adjusted house prices nationally increased 18% over the first three years and then fell 10% over the next three. The number of both existing and new single-family houses sold fell 50% from 1978 to 1982. At the bottom in 1982, real prices were back to 1977 levels.

1985-1993, The Savings & Loan Housing Bubble: Real, inflation-adjusted house prices nationally increased 21% over the first four years then fell 13% over the next four. The number of existing single-family houses sold fell 12% from 1988 to 1991. Sales of new houses fell 32% from 1986 to 1991. At the bottom in 1993, real prices were back to 1986 levels.

1997-2012, The Great Recession Housing Bubble: Real, inflation-adjusted house prices nationally increased 76% over the first nine years and then fell 37% over the next five. The number of existing single-family houses sold fell 42% from 2005 to 2008. Sales of new houses fell 76% from 2005 to 2011. At the bottom in 2012, real prices were back to late 1999 levels, 12 years earlier.

https://www.reddit.com/r/personalfinance/comments/wiyzvi/how_do_i_get_out_of_a_bad_adjustable_rate_heloc/

How do I get out of a bad Adjustable Rate HELOC?

I’m got a 75K balance on an adjustable rate HELOC.
The rate just went from 5% to 6.3% in 1 month.
I pay interest only currently.
I can lock the rate - to prevent it from going higher - but then I would have to pay principal and interest.
How do I get myself out of this mess ?

https://www.reddit.com/r/FirstTimeHomeBuyer/comments/wixk0x/i_made_a_massive_mistake_by_buying_a_house/

I made a massive mistake by buying a house without walking inside of it