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When getting exposed naturally the immune system knows how to deal with variants (T/B cell memory plus antibodies), with vaccination (purely antibody mediated) it's a gamble.
I have a few friends but will check in with one or two to see how their relatives in India are doing. What I'm saying is that the vaccinations are not the holy grail, sure if they can do mass vaccinations at large scale let those who want to get it take it, but it's likely more effective and much cheaper and faster to distribute Ivermectin, HCQ, Vitamin D and steroids to each household, which they should have done in the US as well. Doing nothing until somebody needs to go to the ER is close to murder, but that's not just in India, the US and any other countries did the same thing, in fact I believe India started using these treatments sooner than the US. They probably discarded them now in favor of the vaccines which they should not do. First distribute treatments for each household and MD office/hospital, then do the vaccinations when they're deemed safe. But not enough profit there, since the medications could just work "too well". They did the same reporting on Italy, Spain etc. Ye...
Cases total | Death per 1MM population
1 USA 33,038,439 1,771
2 India 18,754,925 150
This looks like India is doing better than the US and that site is mostly free from propaganda, it just takes the numbers each country reports. Cases and deaths in India are likely underreported though due to poor infrastructure in certain parts.
mell saysWhen getting exposed naturally the immune system knows how to deal with variants (T/B cell memory plus antibodies), with vaccination (purely antibody mediated) it's a gamble.
I agree there is, likely, some advantage to natural exposure as the whole corona virus is involved. But the vaccinated should have T/B cell memory as well (just for the spike protein, though, not the entire virus). Or am I missing something?
I don't see even the slightest change in the death rate per case in that graph lately.
OK, more people got it in India, and that will happen from time to time, but I don't see any evidence that it's more dangerous than it used to be.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/india/#deaths-cured-outcome
This looks like India is doing better than the US and that site is mostly free from propaganda, it just takes the numbers each country reports
@patrick
This is informative thread and matches the experience of family friends.
Mind it , This is so called silicon valley or rather IT sweat shop of western elites. Things are dire in other places.
https://twitter.com/athishravikanth/status/1387934663772020738
farmer2021 says@patrick
This is informative thread and matches the experience of family friends.
Mind it , This is so called silicon valley or rather IT sweat shop of western elites. Things are dire in other places.
https://twitter.com/athishravikanth/status/1387934663772020738
The reason more people are dying can be directly correlated direct with the vaccination which by far isn't a panacea.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242205
Please take some time to read that, even in the US the death rate for those vaccinated catching covid is higher than for the unvaxxed. Btw. this was a well known problem, but they pushed for mass vaccinations anyways, because profit.
mell saysfarmer2021 says@patrick
This is informative thread and matches the experience of family friends.
Mind it , This is so called silicon valley or rather IT sweat shop of western elites. Things are dire in other places.
https://twitter.com/athishravikanth/status/1387934663772020738
The reason more people are dying can be directly correlated direct with the vaccination which by far isn't a panacea.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=242205
Please take some time to read that, even in the US the death rate for those vaccinated catching covid is higher than for the unvaxxed. Btw. this was a well known prob...
Over 12 months that comes to about 36 million.
Chinese propaganda. Remember the epicenter of the WuFlu claims 5000 deaths since the outbreak began over a year ago.
Never trust Congresscuck propaganda.
unless the medical experts basically speak up and be ready to give life for cause like Galileo
Attempting to vaccinate out of a raging infection does not work and in fact kills people.
farmer2021 saysunless the medical experts basically speak up and be ready to give life for cause like Galileo
For every Galileo there are thousands of spineless cowards.
You won't be allowed to live your life unless vaccinated.
farmer2021 saysYou won't be allowed to live your life unless vaccinated.
Refuse to accept this! Protest! Make them send you to jail for non-compliance! Fuck the slavers! Freedom and justice or they can suck a fat dick!
farmer2021 saysYou won't be allowed to live your life unless vaccinated.
Refuse to accept this! Protest! Make them send you to jail for non-compliance! Fuck the slavers! Freedom and justice or they can suck a fat dick!
mell saysI have a few friends but will check in with one or two to see how their relatives in India are doing. What I'm saying is that the vaccinations are not the holy grail, sure if they can do mass vaccinations at large scale let those who want to get it take it, but it's likely more effective and much cheaper and faster to distribute Ivermectin, HCQ, Vitamin D and steroids to each household, which they should have done in the US as well. Doing nothing until somebody needs to go to the ER is close to murder, but that's not just in India, the US and any other countries did the same thing, in fact I believe India started using these treatments sooner than the US. They probably discarded them now in favor of the vaccines which they should not do. First distribute treatments for each household and MD office/hospital, then do the vaccinations when they're deemed safe. But not enough profit there, since the medication...
I think you're full of shit. No one is buying this BS narrative again.
mell saysAttempting to vaccinate out of a raging infection does not work and in fact kills people.
Now you tell me; I just got my second jab.
Speaking of which, I got the templates for the vaccine cards. Anyone have a link to card stock in 3x4”?
Covid is the Swiss Army Knife of pathologic and psychopathic politics. Even the 'good guys' can't resist the temptation to use it to accuse, blame or further an agenda.
Any idea what the hell this stat means? People who are not recovered.. what happen to them .. die?
farmer2021 saysAny idea what the hell this stat means? People who are not recovered.. what happen to them .. die?
I don't think that's possible. I have not seen anyone claim that the overall death rate is more than 0.3% anywhere in the world, so survival rate should be at least 99.7%.
US doesn't give recovered figure.
Death rate : ~1.8%
32.3M
+58,528
Recovered
-
Deaths
575K
+879
farmer2021 saysUS doesn't give recovered figure.
Death rate : ~1.8%
32.3M
+58,528
Recovered
-
Deaths
575K
+879
These numbers are called bovine excrement.
7000-8000 people in the US die every day before the media phenomenon "Covid-19" was invented (just like "witch posession" was a invented social phenomenon endorsed by the authority in the 1600's). Myriads of respiratory disease deaths that normally occur have been tossed under the umbrella "Covid-19" in the last 16+ months. There is no proof whatsoever that those 879 or 575k deaths were due to any particular corona virus. In fact, there is plenty evidence that those wrongly attributed deaths were due to other causes, such as mechanical trama, or pneumonia caused by other types of virus or bacteria (the flu virus didn't magically become extinct). In any given year, a large number of elderly people and peo...
My humble opinion is...
Whatever is happening is happening for a reason and that reason is to help usher in The Great Reset and to Build Back Better.
If Covid is the annual flu that has been weaponized = we are fooked because it will never end. It serves "their" purposes.
If the Wuflu is biological warfare = we are fooked because it would be logical to think this type of warfare will only increase
If the cure/vax is a plot to kill = we are fooked because it is most likely we will be forced to take it. It IS force if the only other choice is to be eliminated from the economy.
Is it possible that Covid is nature and the vax is a true humanitarian effort to save people? I guess anything is possible BUT, why then, will this be the ONLY virus EVER to require passports? I am seriously considering moving to any state that will pass legislation that outlaws a passport and outlaws businesses to require proof of any health condition. WTF ever happened to HIPPA anyway?
Any statistical methods to understand the impact of "COVID" deaths.
Here is example:
A person with respiratory issue gets external support when in danger and survive for few years.
A person with respiratory issues can't get support as too many patients and run out of oxygen(NY and now India) and die immediately.
What will you call this death?
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