A multi-car pileup, involving more than 100 vehicles, along Interstate-35W in Fort Worth has shutdown the highway and left several people trapped in their cars.
Fort Worth police spokesperson Officer Daniel Segura has confirmed at least 5 people were killed in the crash.
I have lived in DFW over half of my life and this happens every time there is an ice storm. This wreck is a worst than normal ice bumper car wrecks.
I also lived in northern Ohio for 13 years and saw my fair share of snow. You can drive on snow if you slow it down a bit. You cannot safely drive on ice and people forget this every time we get an ice storm.
In texas, would they ever brine the roads in anticipation of freezing temps? We do it regularly in NJ this time of year but we have an entire platoon dedicated to this regularly
A multi-car pileup, involving more than 100 vehicles, along Interstate-35W in Fort Worth has shutdown the highway and left several people trapped in their cars.
Fort Worth police spokesperson Officer Daniel Segura has confirmed at least 5 people were killed in the crash.
This is why you don't want Californians in your state. They don't know how to drive. Sorry guys, I know that stings, but a lot of people are moving out and into TX. Going to a ski resort is not winter driving.
70% of the country doesn't have the slightest clue how to drive in snow or understand if the road is iced over. We get plenty of black ice and freezing rain in IL every year. You don't hear about pile ups here. We're not stupid. Sorry to be so harsh.
You cannot safely drive on ice and people forget this every time we get an ice storm.
For sure. But unless temps are below 16F this is something that should have been handled. But, when you move to TX, not dealing with winter on the roads means you don't have the equipment. You don't have salt. AND other drivers have zero clue. There's your tax savings. And potentially your life if you don't know what you're doing with winter weather.
If you haven't handled ice on a road or snow, don't go the fuck out. We're 4-5 days into a deep freeze after a snow. Salt doesn't work. It's ice skating with an engine. I've been in Montana and subdivisions are ice roads 1' thick (no typo, foot). If you don't understand the conditions, you need to get off the road. Nothing is that important unless it's a medical emergency.
70% of the country doesn't have the slightest clue how to drive in snow or understand if the road is iced over
The speed limit there is 75 so people are geared to driving 80 with six inches between them and the car in front, so probably slowed down to 70 with a foot from the next car. Watching the video, can't those drivers see the brakes lights piling up ahead?!
70% of the country doesn't have the slightest clue how to drive in snow or understand if the road is iced over
The speed limit there is 75 so people are geared to driving 80 with six inches between them and the car in front, so probably slowed down to 70 with a foot from the next car. Watching the video, can't those drivers see the brakes lights piling up ahead?!
Doesn't negate the fact they have no clue about winter driving or icy conditions. I don't go 65 on the highway when I know there's ice. These people are morons. There's really no disputing that. I've been in random pile up potential situations here in IL. Everyone knows what to do.
The video was a clear indication you should just stay home during icy/winter weather conditions in TX. The same is true for a bunch of other states that have one event a year or maybe every decade.
This one shows the FedEx truck from two different angles:
Truck drivers have it rough. I get it. You'll never see an owner operator get into that situation though 90% of the time though. Their truck is their home and their livelihood. FedEx guy is probably Raul that took a 6 week course to get a license. When you have radio as well with a truck already wrecked, there's really no excuse to not have put the flashers on and slowed down well before the scene. He likely had info of the wreck a minute or two prior.
A multi-car pileup, involving more than 100 vehicles, along Interstate-35W in Fort Worth has shutdown the highway and left several people trapped in their cars.
Fort Worth police spokesperson Officer Daniel Segura has confirmed at least 5 people were killed in the crash.
This is why you don't want Californians in your state. They don't know how to drive. Sorry guys, I know that stings, but a lot of people are moving out and into TX. Going to a ski resort is not winter driving.
70% of the country doesn't have the slightest clue how to drive in snow or understand if the road is iced over. We get plenty of black ice and freezing rain in IL every year. You don't hear about pile ups here. We're not stupid. Sorry to be so harsh.
No need to apologize. California drivers are fucking imbeciles.
Let me count the ways California drivers are stupid.
For perspective, I don’t think speed is bad per se. However you must take into account conditions. I like going 85-100 in rural areas and keep it at 70-85 in the city depending on how much traffic there is. I don’t tailgate(except when jerks are going 65 or lower amd they should move to the right), and I try to slow down early.
1.) Bane of my existence is the 405 from LA into the SFV. It’s a hill. And a 5 lane on each side interstate Highway. Somehow even at 3am, there will be idiots going 40 mph in the fast lane. The speed limit is 65, and somehow these mouth breathers can figure out that the need to press down on the gas pedal to maintain a reasonable speed. Worse is they refuse to move to the right. Even worse is the same idiots let the car fly going down the other side. Somehow it fails to reach their brain that it’s MUCH harder to slow down when you are speeding while going downhill.
2.) Speaking of slowing down, California drivers seem uniquely unaware that it’s not necessary to hit the breaks in order to slow down. That you will slow down if you let up off the gas pedal. So even though I’m driving faster than the herd, they frequently pass me heading into a stop light as I’ve already begun slowing down by letting up on the gas and these boobs are slamming on their breaks at the last second.
3.) yielding to faster traffic. It’s on the California drivers test. Yet hardly any Californians seem to care. It’s the only Western State I drive in where slow pokes won’t move over and let faster traffic pass.
4.) Lord help any California idiot driving in the rain or worse. There is no sense of anything.
5.) you never want to be out when the power goes out. There are no stupider drivers in these circumstances. The only explanation I have for why cars don’t stop or even slow down heading into a dead traffic signal is the high number of illegal aliens, who I guess don’t possibly understand the law.
3.) yielding to faster traffic. It’s on the California drivers test. Yet hardly any Californians seem to care. It’s the only Western State I drive in where slow pokes won’t move over and let faster traffic pass.
I've let go of the idea of "fast" and "slow" lanes many years ago. I drive in whatever lane is faster and change lanes as needed. Saves me shitload of aggravation.
when you move to TX, not dealing with winter on the roads means you don't have the equipment. You don't have salt.
This is a weak exuse. CalTrans has the equipment, salt, sand and such. Their rigs hit the roads immediately when this kind of weather starts. Yes, in California.
It’s a hill. And a 5 lane on each side interstate Highway. Somehow even at 3am, there will be idiots going 40 mph in the fast lane.
I see your Sepulveda Pass and raise you owning acreage at the top of the Grapevine. Can't tell you how often I find myself cruising my 5cyl Volvo up the initial steep part before Templin Highway at a cool 90 in the completely empty far right lane, passing big rigs going 30 in the fourth lane and passenger cars going 36, 42, and 31 in the inner 3 lanes. Lane discipline is a big thing in Germany on the Autobahn, where the culture is, when someone in the fast lane flashes to pass, you pull the fuck over to let them no matter how fast you are going yourself. Americans get "freedom" twisted and gladly engage in every tragedy of the commons possible.
you never want to be out when the power goes out. There are no stupider drivers in these circumstances
One night I saw the signals were out on a State route/freeway on/off intersection. Cars were just FLYING through at speed and I witnessed several very near collisions. I sped to my shop a block away and called the Sheriff, and the dispatch lady sounded annoyed to take the call. I grabbed several road flares I'd paid retail for and a hi-vis jacket and rushed back. Tried to set the flares at the limit lines between lanes as police do when the signal is dark. Mofos (plenty of them white btw) kept trying to mow my ass down as I worked, not one of them stopped, and while waiting on the raised median to cross back watched them run over and extinguish all the flares. I said fuck this and rushed back to the shop. Called Sheriff again and this time the dispatch lady YELLED at me.
70% of the country doesn't have the slightest clue how to drive in snow or understand if the road is iced over. We get plenty of black ice and freezing rain in IL every year. You don't hear about pile ups here. We're not stupid. Sorry to be so harsh.
True. I learned to drive at 16 while living in Michigan. At that age, you learn to get a good feel for the ice and snow, and you deliberately fish-tail now and then for fun eventually. That kind of play is actually good training.
The more adventurous go do donuts on the lakes when they're frozen, but that's really dangerous because cars fall in every year and you do not want to be in a car plunging into freezing water.
This is a weak exuse. CalTrans has the equipment, salt, sand and such. Their rigs hit the roads immediately when this kind of weather starts. Yes, in California.
Where though? The Sierras? Probably takes the average Californian 3-4 hours to even get to elevations where that equipment is needed (traffic, especially weekend). Not saying they don't have that stuff, the average Californian doesn't drive in snow though. Just because you can see the mountains doesn't mean you experience them.
There are kids in Englewood in Chicago that have never even left the neighborhood. Those mountains are in Iowa considering drive time in most metro areas. Juanita and Tregriffin can't get there. Moral of the story, most Californians cannot drive in winter weather. Many lower level truckers are illegals as well.
You can always just mountain bike like a child (sorry, more trolling).
Probably takes the average Californian 3-4 hours to even get to elevations where that equipment is needed (traffic, especially weekend).
East Bay to Sugar Bowl Super Bowl Sunday 2 hours 20 minutes. My wife drove and at one point she was doing 90 on interstate 80. We don't usually go up if we might have to put the chains on.
East Bay to Sugar Bowl Super Bowl Sunday 2 hours 20 minutes.
How about a regular Sunday? Especially after fresh powder has fallen?
There are still enough morons that have to watch the SB. I watched it, just not in real time or the commercials or pre-game jaggery. So traffic was light I'm guessing? Or was that normal?
It's the midwest, and the runs are massively short comparatively. But for the average person it's as good as any mountain skiing and half the cost. Just more lift rides #beers.
I'm getting out in the next couple weeks to warm up for Big Sky and Bridger in MT. Want to book everything tonight or tomorrow for mid March. Big Sky is amazing. You need 4-5 days minimum to experience probably half of it without taking a break. There's extreme, but also a ton of long chill runs. More my style now, but I'll get up on Lone Mountain once and chill otherwise with blue and greens. Breaking my foot has made me realize how much it sucks to not be mobile. So only 1-2 double blacks.
This is a weak exuse. CalTrans has the equipment, salt, sand and such. Their rigs hit the roads immediately when this kind of weather starts. Yes, in California.
Where though? The Sierras? Probably takes the average Californian 3-4 hours to even get to elevations where that equipment is needed (traffic, especially weekend). Not saying they don't have that stuff, the average Californian doesn't drive in snow though.
It's not about "average Californian", it's about CalTrans. The people whose job is to keep the roads safe. They are doing their job, their TX counterparts - not so much.
They are doing their job, their TX counterparts - not so much.
Texas doesn't have the equipment. Never has. You can go as far north as TN and they don't have plows, salt, etc.
I was more or less talking about the driving skill. TX has had an influx of people from CA. Was it someone from CA that caused it? Or was even a CA resident or expat involved, who knows? CA drivers suck either way. Again, I'm trolling. I like most CA people. Not all. You're not the target either.
Let me count the ways California drivers are stupid.
In Silicon Valley, I would say at least 5% of the H1B drivers got their license from a bribe. I once rode with a Korean to an eatery about 1/2 mile away, and it was terrifying. I elected to walk back claiming it was a nice day and I needed some time to think before I got back to work anyhow.
I was more or less talking about the driving skill. TX has had an influx of people from CA.
Again, were all these CDL guys caught in that covfefe California transplants? I very much doubt it. Looked more like your regular cross-country freight trucks driving through. Yet they piled up the same as these alleged "CA libruls".
Cross country trucking is dying though. It's mostly regional and daily routes at this point. Train to Amazon warehouse. Those are most the trucks you see now.
Either way, CA is a huge backdoor for illegals to get in. Those are most the truck drivers. Get you ITIN, pay taxes and you're theoretically legal in the business world.
TX has a lot of illegals obviously being a border state. I don't think there's much disputing that CA is a open door for illegals though. No? Or bad drivers.
This is a weak exuse. CalTrans has the equipment, salt, sand and such. Their rigs hit the roads immediately when this kind of weather starts. Yes, in California.
If it snows once every other year, it does not make sense to waste money on salt trucks. That approach is why we are not overtaxed.
Generally however Texans have no clue how to drive when three snowflakes fall out of sky. When it last snowed around here (3 years ago, SE TX), ditches were filled with people who have no concept of solid water and don't realize that accelerating and rapid braking on ice is not a good idea. Half of barrio burns down every time temperature falls below freezing, as Mexico and Guatemala usually do not experience freezes.
This is a weak exuse. CalTrans has the equipment, salt, sand and such. Their rigs hit the roads immediately when this kind of weather starts. Yes, in California.
If it snows once every year, it does not make sense to waste money on salt trucks. That approach is why we are not overtaxed.
Generally however Texans have no clue how to drive when three snowflakes fall out of sky. When it last snowed around here (3 years ago, SE TX), ditches were filled with people who have no concept of solid water and don't realize that accelerating and rapid braking on ice is not a good idea. Half of barrio burns down every time temperature falls below freezing, as Mexico and Guatemala usually do not experience freezes.
This.
I hate the Northeast, but they do know how to drive. Chicagoan's know how to drive. CA is the worst state I've driven in. TX driving has been limited, but it's no different than TN which I'm familiar with. When it gets slick, no one has a fucking clue what to do. You just stay home. Throw in CA transplants and I'm not sure I'd drive much in TX sun, snow, ice or rain. Double whammy.
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Fort Worth police spokesperson Officer Daniel Segura has confirmed at least 5 people were killed in the crash.
I also lived in northern Ohio for 13 years and saw my fair share of snow. You can drive on snow if you slow it down a bit. You cannot safely drive on ice and people forget this every time we get an ice storm.
https://youtu.be/kdXoKnTT46A
This is why you don't want Californians in your state. They don't know how to drive. Sorry guys, I know that stings, but a lot of people are moving out and into TX. Going to a ski resort is not winter driving.
70% of the country doesn't have the slightest clue how to drive in snow or understand if the road is iced over. We get plenty of black ice and freezing rain in IL every year. You don't hear about pile ups here. We're not stupid. Sorry to be so harsh.
For sure. But unless temps are below 16F this is something that should have been handled. But, when you move to TX, not dealing with winter on the roads means you don't have the equipment. You don't have salt. AND other drivers have zero clue. There's your tax savings. And potentially your life if you don't know what you're doing with winter weather.
If you haven't handled ice on a road or snow, don't go the fuck out. We're 4-5 days into a deep freeze after a snow. Salt doesn't work. It's ice skating with an engine. I've been in Montana and subdivisions are ice roads 1' thick (no typo, foot). If you don't understand the conditions, you need to get off the road. Nothing is that important unless it's a medical emergency.
The speed limit there is 75 so people are geared to driving 80 with six inches between them and the car in front, so probably slowed down to 70 with a foot from the next car. Watching the video, can't those drivers see the brakes lights piling up ahead?!
Doesn't negate the fact they have no clue about winter driving or icy conditions. I don't go 65 on the highway when I know there's ice. These people are morons. There's really no disputing that. I've been in random pile up potential situations here in IL. Everyone knows what to do.
The video was a clear indication you should just stay home during icy/winter weather conditions in TX. The same is true for a bunch of other states that have one event a year or maybe every decade.
https://youtu.be/VqNy7v5YekM
Truck drivers have it rough. I get it. You'll never see an owner operator get into that situation though 90% of the time though. Their truck is their home and their livelihood. FedEx guy is probably Raul that took a 6 week course to get a license. When you have radio as well with a truck already wrecked, there's really no excuse to not have put the flashers on and slowed down well before the scene. He likely had info of the wreck a minute or two prior.
No need to apologize. California drivers are fucking imbeciles.
For perspective, I don’t think speed is bad per se. However you must take into account conditions. I like going 85-100 in rural areas and keep it at 70-85 in the city depending on how much traffic there is. I don’t tailgate(except when jerks are going 65 or lower amd they should move to the right), and I try to slow down early.
1.) Bane of my existence is the 405 from LA into the SFV. It’s a hill. And a 5 lane on each side interstate Highway. Somehow even at 3am, there will be idiots going 40 mph in the fast lane. The speed limit is 65, and somehow these mouth breathers can figure out that the need to press down on the gas pedal to maintain a reasonable speed. Worse is they refuse to move to the right. Even worse is the same idiots let the car fly going down the other side. Somehow it fails to reach their brain that it’s MUCH harder to slow down when you are speeding while going downhill.
2.) Speaking of slowing down, California drivers seem uniquely unaware that it’s not necessary to hit the breaks in order to slow down. That you will slow down if you let up off the gas pedal. So even though I’m driving faster than the herd, they frequently pass me heading into a stop light as I’ve already begun slowing down by letting up on the gas and these boobs are slamming on their breaks at the last second.
3.) yielding to faster traffic. It’s on the California drivers test. Yet hardly any Californians seem to care. It’s the only Western State I drive in where slow pokes won’t move over and let faster traffic pass.
4.) Lord help any California idiot driving in the rain or worse. There is no sense of anything.
5.) you never want to be out when the power goes out. There are no stupider drivers in these circumstances. The only explanation I have for why cars don’t stop or even slow down heading into a dead traffic signal is the high number of illegal aliens, who I guess don’t possibly understand the law.
And what's with the fucking walls along the road and no shoulders? Looks like stupid design.
I've let go of the idea of "fast" and "slow" lanes many years ago. I drive in whatever lane is faster and change lanes as needed. Saves me shitload of aggravation.
This is a weak exuse. CalTrans has the equipment, salt, sand and such. Their rigs hit the roads immediately when this kind of weather starts. Yes, in California.
My last Fed Ex delivery was delayed by a "train derailment". The package arrived a day late in a messed up box; nothing fragile.
I don't understand gibberish or ghetto or ebonics.
Horrifying!
Please! When your on an icy highway videoing something like this turn your phone to landscape!
He said "That's some tucked up shit!".
Skip to 2:20. new video, different angle. That semi slammed the pickup like a pool ball.
I see your Sepulveda Pass and raise you owning acreage at the top of the Grapevine. Can't tell you how often I find myself cruising my 5cyl Volvo up the initial steep part before Templin Highway at a cool 90 in the completely empty far right lane, passing big rigs going 30 in the fourth lane and passenger cars going 36, 42, and 31 in the inner 3 lanes. Lane discipline is a big thing in Germany on the Autobahn, where the culture is, when someone in the fast lane flashes to pass, you pull the fuck over to let them no matter how fast you are going yourself. Americans get "freedom" twisted and gladly engage in every tragedy of the commons possible.
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One night I saw the signals were out on a State route/freeway on/off intersection. Cars were just FLYING through at speed and I witnessed several very near collisions. I sped to my shop a block away and called the Sheriff, and the dispatch lady sounded annoyed to take the call. I grabbed several road flares I'd paid retail for and a hi-vis jacket and rushed back. Tried to set the flares at the limit lines between lanes as police do when the signal is dark. Mofos (plenty of them white btw) kept trying to mow my ass down as I worked, not one of them stopped, and while waiting on the raised median to cross back watched them run over and extinguish all the flares. I said fuck this and rushed back to the shop. Called Sheriff again and this time the dispatch lady YELLED at me.
True. I learned to drive at 16 while living in Michigan. At that age, you learn to get a good feel for the ice and snow, and you deliberately fish-tail now and then for fun eventually. That kind of play is actually good training.
The more adventurous go do donuts on the lakes when they're frozen, but that's really dangerous because cars fall in every year and you do not want to be in a car plunging into freezing water.
Notice I said Raul (illegal). Admittedly I'm trolling another user. I should stop, but it's too easy (not you).
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Where though? The Sierras? Probably takes the average Californian 3-4 hours to even get to elevations where that equipment is needed (traffic, especially weekend). Not saying they don't have that stuff, the average Californian doesn't drive in snow though. Just because you can see the mountains doesn't mean you experience them.
There are kids in Englewood in Chicago that have never even left the neighborhood. Those mountains are in Iowa considering drive time in most metro areas. Juanita and Tregriffin can't get there. Moral of the story, most Californians cannot drive in winter weather. Many lower level truckers are illegals as well.
You can always just mountain bike like a child (sorry, more trolling).
East Bay to Sugar Bowl Super Bowl Sunday 2 hours 20 minutes. My wife drove and at one point she was doing 90 on interstate 80. We don't usually go up if we might have to put the chains on.
How about a regular Sunday? Especially after fresh powder has fallen?
There are still enough morons that have to watch the SB. I watched it, just not in real time or the commercials or pre-game jaggery. So traffic was light I'm guessing? Or was that normal?
It's the midwest, and the runs are massively short comparatively. But for the average person it's as good as any mountain skiing and half the cost. Just more lift rides #beers.
I'm getting out in the next couple weeks to warm up for Big Sky and Bridger in MT. Want to book everything tonight or tomorrow for mid March. Big Sky is amazing. You need 4-5 days minimum to experience probably half of it without taking a break. There's extreme, but also a ton of long chill runs. More my style now, but I'll get up on Lone Mountain once and chill otherwise with blue and greens. Breaking my foot has made me realize how much it sucks to not be mobile. So only 1-2 double blacks.
It's not about "average Californian", it's about CalTrans. The people whose job is to keep the roads safe. They are doing their job, their TX counterparts - not so much.
Texas doesn't have the equipment. Never has. You can go as far north as TN and they don't have plows, salt, etc.
I was more or less talking about the driving skill. TX has had an influx of people from CA. Was it someone from CA that caused it? Or was even a CA resident or expat involved, who knows? CA drivers suck either way. Again, I'm trolling. I like most CA people. Not all. You're not the target either.
They have ice on the roads but not equipment? Sounds like epic fail, no?
In Silicon Valley, I would say at least 5% of the H1B drivers got their license from a bribe. I once rode with a Korean to an eatery about 1/2 mile away, and it was terrifying. I elected to walk back claiming it was a nice day and I needed some time to think before I got back to work anyhow.
Again, were all these CDL guys caught in that covfefe California transplants? I very much doubt it. Looked more like your regular cross-country freight trucks driving through. Yet they piled up the same as these alleged "CA libruls".
Either way, CA is a huge backdoor for illegals to get in. Those are most the truck drivers. Get you ITIN, pay taxes and you're theoretically legal in the business world.
TX has a lot of illegals obviously being a border state. I don't think there's much disputing that CA is a open door for illegals though. No? Or bad drivers.
If it snows once every other year, it does not make sense to waste money on salt trucks. That approach is why we are not overtaxed.
Generally however Texans have no clue how to drive when three snowflakes fall out of sky. When it last snowed around here (3 years ago, SE TX), ditches were filled with people who have no concept of solid water and don't realize that accelerating and rapid braking on ice is not a good idea. Half of barrio burns down every time temperature falls below freezing, as Mexico and Guatemala usually do not experience freezes.
This.
I hate the Northeast, but they do know how to drive. Chicagoan's know how to drive. CA is the worst state I've driven in. TX driving has been limited, but it's no different than TN which I'm familiar with. When it gets slick, no one has a fucking clue what to do. You just stay home. Throw in CA transplants and I'm not sure I'd drive much in TX sun, snow, ice or rain. Double whammy.