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VP Debate


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2020 Oct 7, 6:22pm   2,202 views  79 comments

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First 20 minutes about Covid. 20 minutes wasted. Fuck these media whores let's talk about the economy instead.

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56   SunnyvaleCA   2020 Oct 8, 11:15am  

I subscribed to the free NYT daily fake-news email. This morning:
But there was also a problem with the vice-presidential debate: Pence repeatedly made statements that were either misleading or untrue. ... To be clear, both Pence and Harris also engaged in mild overstatement and rhetorical flourishes at times ... But Pence was far more dishonest.

Then we got a list. Here are some of the gems...

On day one, Joe Biden is going to raise your taxes,” Pence said. This is false: Biden has proposed tax increases only on households making more than $400,000 a year.
No mention of Harris/Biden explicitly stating they intend to overturn the Trump tax cuts, which would, indeed raise taxes on many.

Pence said he and Trump had a plan to “protect pre-existing conditions for every American.” The administration has repeatedly attempted to take health insurance away from Americans, and the number of uninsured people has risen during Trump’s presidency.
The number of uninsured having risen is a misleading statistic. Trump has (unfortunately) not succeeded in killing Obamacare. He has, however, gotten rid of the mandate, so that people which were previously forced to pay for it now have a choice; some have decided to use their money for something else. So the people losing their Obamacare are those that made their own personal decision to use their own money on something else. That's a clear win for personal freedom.

Pence said Trump revered members of the military. ... More recently, Trump has described Americans soldiers killed in war as “losers” and “suckers,” The Atlantic has reported.
Wow! Still flogging that hit-piece based on "anonymous sources" and debunked even by Trump enemies such as Bolton.

Pence said voting by mail created “a massive opportunity for voter fraud.” This contradicts all of the available evidence and history about mail voting.
Hilarious. There's little history on vote-by-mail because it's so obviously problematic that few other countries have even tried it on a country-wide basis. This country already has lax voter registration standards (to put it mildly); vote-by-mail is the best avenue to exploit people who are registered but not eligible.
58   Ceffer   2020 Oct 8, 11:55am  

Debate with turds, wake up with flies.
59   Onvacation   2020 Oct 8, 1:56pm  

Kamala suffers from the "peter principle". Don't promote her further.
60   Tenpoundbass   2020 Oct 8, 4:00pm  

It was a trained fly brought in by a terd wrangler from the shit farms on the streets of San Francisco.

61   Tenpoundbass   2020 Oct 8, 4:02pm  

All of my posts were disliked, that means the right people actually looked for them and read them.
I reach them one at a time.
62   Tenpoundbass   2020 Oct 8, 4:07pm  

Confirmed in the image above from Babylon Bee "evil" in the backdrop of Kamala.

63   Rin   2020 Oct 8, 4:10pm  

Oh no! Flies are reminiscent of the Amityville Horror.



Kamala sent in the demons to scare Pence out of the podium!
65   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Oct 8, 8:40pm  

Dbr6 says
@NoCoupForYou: do you know how Hasidim voted previously? Is this a change of their support?


The Hassids voted moderate Dems in the past, but are moving towards Republicanism. I think getting close to 70% in Presidential now, though in NYC proper they vote for Dems because there are no Republicans to vote for. NYC Rep Dov Hikind is basically a Republican running as a Democrat.
66   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2020 Oct 8, 8:52pm  

Booger says


telemundo is very conservative. liberals think they have hispanics, while hispanics cant stand liberals and their gay shit.
68   HeadSet   2020 Oct 9, 12:03pm  

The Hassids voted moderate Dems in the past, but are moving towards Republicanism.

I think that is because Republicans have moved to where moderate Dems used to be, while the Dems have moved far to the left. Trump himself is actually like an old Union Dem when he acts to bring manufacturing back home and curb illegal immigration. Remember when the AFL-CIO was anti-Communist, and even gave assistance to Solidarity to overthrow a Communist government in Poland.
69   anonymous   2020 Oct 10, 2:44am  

Patrick says
The whole point of the media dividing the public with these wedge issues is to deflect attention away from outsourcing US factories to China.


It was Nixon and Reagan who did that.
70   Patrick   2020 Oct 10, 9:58am  

Nixon started it with his famous trip to China, sure.

But it was really the Democrats who made a religion out of grievance studies, using resentments as a deliberately divisive distraction so that they could suck the cock of global capital for campaign cash.

And they thought they would get away with it forever. They thought they had perfectly corrupted and undermined democracy in the US. But their plan was foiled by the election of Donald Trump.

Democracy isn't dead yet, in spite of the Democrats' best efforts. Even after the election they furiously continued to try to subvert a legitimate election.
71   mell   2020 Oct 10, 10:15am  

Also who gives a fuck who started it, we need to focus on stopping it. Yeah both Dems and Repubs are massively guilty, but in recent years before Trump it has been mainly Democrat driven.
72   Misc   2020 Oct 11, 1:15am  

mell says
Also who gives a fuck who started it, we need to focus on stopping it. Yeah both Dems and Repubs are massively guilty, but in recent years before Trump it has been mainly Democrat driven.


... but further deregulating the Banksters come from all 3 sides the Dems, the Repubs and the Trumpers.
73   HeadSet   2020 Oct 11, 7:48am  

but further deregulating the Banksters come from all 3 sides the Dems, the Repubs and the Trumpers.

Deregulating the bankers is not the problem. The problem is bailout and government loan guarantees. Take away these backstops and the banks would have to be prudent.
74   mell   2020 Oct 11, 9:51am  

HeadSet says
but further deregulating the Banksters come from all 3 sides the Dems, the Repubs and the Trumpers.

Deregulating the bankers is not the problem. The problem is bailout and government loan guarantees. Take away these backstops and the banks would have to be prudent.


Right but one can make the argument that deregulation may make them go too wild in speculation and then they drag everybody down with then when they fail and don't get their expected bailout.
75   HeadSet   2020 Oct 11, 4:24pm  

Right but one can make the argument that deregulation may make them go too wild in speculation and then they drag everybody down with then when they fail and don't get their expected bailout.

True, but then they should be dealt with the way the Resolution Trust Company dealt with the S&L crises ("The Keating 5"). The speculators go bankrupt and have all remaining assets seized. Not the AIG type rescue where "If I take away their million dollar bonuses, they will not cooperate with the bailout."
76   just_passing_through   2020 Oct 11, 8:26pm  

HeadSet says
curb illegal immigration.


He's fucking Julio César Chávez. Gonzalez.
77   just_passing_through   2020 Oct 11, 8:27pm  

throwaway3437829 says
It was Nixon and Reagan who did that.


Bullshit, we only had leftist media when they were around. Lincoln killed off over 3K conservative media outlets during the civil war, put them in jail etc., It took over a century for them to come back.
78   just_passing_through   2020 Oct 11, 8:29pm  

Also: McCarthy was right!
79   CBOEtrader   2020 Oct 11, 11:37pm  

just_adhom_preaching says
Also: McCarthy was right!


Can patrick make t-shirts that say ^^

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