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socal2 says

Misc says

It comes down to Uber/Lyft having to pay social security and medicare taxes, as well as contributing to California's unemployment fund.

In other words, California customers will have to pay more for Uber rides to pay higher taxes.

But to make up for it they will lower the driver's pay.

Misc says
It comes down to Uber/Lyft having to pay social security and medicare taxes, as well as contributing to California's unemployment fund.


In other words, California customers will have to pay more for Uber rides to pay higher taxes.


But to make up for it they will lower the driver's pay.

Bingo ! Nailed it

That's exactly what will happen and we'll have way less drivers. Also parking lots will fill up again and DUIs will go up as well.

California government are lower than whale shit. They should really do us all a favor and just kill themselves.


This affects so many other 1099 workers too like truck drivers. On our way to becoming Calisomalia.

WineHorror1 says

I'd like to see some kind of hero emerge for labor. Labor has been getting fucked for a long time.

His name is Donald Trump. Just like Cesar Chavez, Trump wants to limit unskilled labor from entering the country, thus helping out the existing US citizens who are trying to get off the bottom rung.

ForcedTQ says

FuckCCP89 says

Can they survive w/o CA market?

They have about fuck all for overhead as the whole thing is a software system for transactions and networking people together for efficient means of transport.

Then why are both Uber and Lyft hemorrhaging money? This is why I though the "self drive" is a joke. Uber cannot make money now when they have passed the costs of buying, maintaining, cleaning, gas, taxes, and insuring the car onto the driver, so how can they make money when Uber must buy the $100k self diving car, plus cover all the maintenance. fuel, and insurance costs? Cars that also need to be stored, inspected, cleaned, and taxed.

HeadSet says

Then why are both Uber and Lyft hemorrhaging money

There’s this little thing called the pandemic. It’s been absolutely terrible for bar hoppers and airport travelers. That’s got to be at least half of uber business.

Shaman says

HeadSet says

Then why are both Uber and Lyft hemorrhaging money

There’s this little thing called the pandemic. It’s been absolutely terrible for bar hoppers and airport travelers. That’s got to be at least half of uber business.

Xcept they weren't profitable before the Wuhan scare either.

Shaman says

HeadSet says

Then why are both Uber and Lyft hemorrhaging money

There’s this little thing called the pandemic. It’s been absolutely terrible for bar hoppers and airport travelers. That’s got to be at least half of uber business.

Nice snark, but Uber and Lyft have been losing money from the start. Every year they make claimed that the next year is when they would turn the corner. Too bad if you were one of those who bought the Uber IPO at around $60.

This is hilarious. Uber dotcom hipster types not flourishing.

In the day when I was backpacking in a "second world" place, a local person I was supposed to meet up with told me to hitch a ride anywhere, just flag down a vehicle heading your direction and they'll give you a lift for "about a dollar".

Sure enough that worked. No need for hipster apps.

I hitchhiked across Europe in college. It worked reasonably well, though it retrospect it was somewhat dangerous. One you're in someone's car, they have a lot of power over you.

There was a definite hierarchy to getting picked up. Easiest was lone girl, then multiple girls, then mixed, then lone guy, then group of guys.

The people giving rides also correctly perceived that it might not be safe for them to pick up multiple guys, since a group of guys could probably rob them and maybe take the car.

A lone girl would be insane to get into strangers' cars.

Patrick says

There was a definite hierarchy to getting picked up. Easiest was lone girl,

From what I've heard, pulling over for "lone girl" makes "sketch boyfriend" appear seemingly out of nowhere.

Yes, that was a common technique. Guy hides while girl flags down ride, then guy pops up and the couple counts on social pressure to get the driver not to change his mind.

Bait-and-switch. Used in retail all the time.

My own routine evolved to where I would put up praying hands, then cross myself in the Catholic fashion but end it with my thumb out.

At least it usually got a laugh.

socal2 says

FuckCCP89 says

Why? Walmart doesn't.

According to this link, Walmart provides some benefits to their part-time workers too.

I guess I fell a victim to propaganda.

HeadSet says

Shaman says

HeadSet says

Then why are both Uber and Lyft hemorrhaging money

There’s this little thing called the pandemic. It’s been absolutely terrible for bar hoppers and airport travelers. That’s got to be at least half of uber business.

Nice snark, but Uber and Lyft have been losing money from the start. Every year they make claimed that the next year is when they would turn the corner. Too bad if you were one of those who bought the Uber IPO at around $60.

I think you're both right. Sure has been convenient while it lasted. Another reason to leave CA.

If anything, though, all this points out how screwed up the conventional taxi "market" is. Expensive rides, lousy vehicles, and downright rude drivers — even at 2x the current price, Uber would be preferable.

https://techcrunch.com/2020/08/20/lyft-is-suspending-rideshare-operations-in-california/

Lyft is planning to suspend its ridesharing operations in California beginning tonight at 11:59 pm PT, unless it receives a stay from the Court of Appeals today.

I think they did receive the stay.

They did...

Only real issue is the withholding tax grab by the state. They already had taxis by the nuts with regulations, fees and taxes. Uber and Lyft bypassed all that with 1099 status for drivers.

California is going to be pursuing any revenue stream it can nail down to shore up its deficits and the years of public service unions, fiscal corruption and waste. It seems that the rich are starting to bail. As they bail, California is trying to tack on its 'wealth tax' on those with over 30 million in net worth to skin them at the exit gates, and they are trying to increase the maximum state tax (already the highest in the nation) rate by 3 percent.

Is there anything guaranteed to complete the death spiral of California into a two class system of uber wealthy and welfare suckers? Only, the wealthy always have the option to leave, and then California is left with all those hungry voter mouths to feed from dwindling assets.

It literally is running out of other people's money.

Only real issue is the withholding tax grab by the state. They already had taxis by the nuts with regulations, fees and taxes. Uber and Lyft bypassed all that with 1099 status for drivers.

Actually, Taxi Drivers are typically lessees that are 1099 for credit card and voucher payments. What Uber/Lyft did was bypass all the LOCAL laws that apply to taxis such as regulated fares, mandatory service areas and times, handicap vehicles, full time commercial insurance, and so on. Although in a few places taxi drivers own their own cabs and pay a fee to rent a medallion and get dispatched jobs, most rent a cab from the local cab company. I believe that as soon as the AB5 type laws are finished forcing Uber/Lyft to make drivers employees, Taxi companies will be next.

And it probably would violate the interstate commerce clause just like when they tried to tax retirement income of retirees who left the state. The courts shot that down.

I know CA tried to tax a portion of military retirement based on time stationed in CA, but was CA prohibited from taxing CA government retirees that moved out of state?

They tried to do that to my dad's air force retirement when we moved to TX in the early 80s. He was always a TX resident and we even had TX license plates when I was a kid here in CA.

He told them to eat a sack of shit.

TrumpingTits says

Ceffer says

As they bail, California is trying to tack on its 'wealth tax' on those with over 30 million in net worth to skin them at the exit gates,

That would violate prop 13 as far as wealth taxes on land goes.

As long as the tax is only on net worth above $30MM (which we all know is just the starting point!), that's probably not going to clobber people whose entire net worth is tied up in their shack.

I would not have any problem with CA taxing CA state pensions on people that moved out of state. Not 401ks and IRAs, just the defined benefit style pensions paid by CA resident taxpayers.

I just heard that Uber charges you more if your phone battery is low.

They figure you're desperate, and they're happy to fuck over desperate people.

Fuck Uber

Just finished Super Pumped. While not nearly as good as shows like Silicon Valley, it's still worth a watch.

https://fortune.com/2023/04/28/remote-workers-lyft-return-to-office-mandate-after-layoffs/

On Thursday, Lyft’s new CEO laid off over 1,000 employees. On Friday he ordered remaining ones back to the office

A substantial number of employees have grown accustomed to working from home in recent years, but CEOs are increasingly issuing return-to-office mandates. Lyft is the latest example, but what makes its mandate notable is its timing.

One day after new CEO David Risher laid off more than 1,000 employees, or about 26% of its corporate workforce, he told remaining workers they must head back to the office. The one-two punch may help the ride-sharing company avoid the problem of employees not taking such mandates seriously.

Just a year ago, Lyft announced it was “now a fully flexible workplace,” boasting on its blog that employees would “have the choice of where to live and where to work.” They could “work from the office, at home, or any combination of the two,” it added.

No longer. Risher, who assumed the helm on April 17, will require workers to come in Mondays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays, with Tuesdays recommended, beginning after Labor Day, he told the New York Times, adding that he saw the moment as an opportunity to have a “cultural reset.”

In February, Lyft announced projected earnings that fell well short of estimates, leading to the biggest single-day drop in its stock price in the company’s history. Compared with rival Uber, it has struggled to reach pre-pandemic levels of ridership among its users.

“At some point, I don’t think of this as just an Uber battle,” Risher told MarketWatch in late March. “It’s a battle against staying at home. How do we get people out? How do we get them playing and working together?”

He was referring to customers, but it seems he wants employees staying home less and working together more, as well.

Many remote workers, however, believe working from home is just fine and are not eager to return to pre-pandemic office and commuting routines. In a Pew Research survey published last month, 56% of respondents said working from home helps them get work done and meet deadlines, while 37% said it neither helps nor hurts.

Risher isn’t the only boss taking aim at remote work. With the pandemic in the rearview mirror, many CEOs have been demanding that remote employees spend more time in the office, among them Bob Iger at Disney, Robert Thomson at News Corp., and Howard Schultz at Starbucks.

One CEO, James Clarke of digital marketing firm Clearlink, worried aloud to staff that some remote employees might secretly be working for other companies, and that others could be freeing up time with A.I. tools that Clearlink wasn’t fully utilizing.

Meanwhile Sam Zell, a real estate magnate known for his colorful language, called remote work “a bunch of bullshit” at a luncheon in New York last week, adding, “Young people need to develop their skills, and you can’t develop those skills if you’re not in the office.”

Patrick says

I just heard that Uber charges you more if your phone battery is low.

And that is exactly why my Android phone is stock from any Social media company.
I delete any fecesbook and shitter if it's on it when I bought it.

Patrick says

I just heard that Uber charges you more if your phone battery is low.

I'd be surprised if they didn't.

https://www.merca20.com/does-uber-charge-you-more-when-your-phone-battery-is-low/

https://www.indiatimes.com/trending/human-interest/uber-accused-of-increasing-fares-when-users-phone-battery-is-low-599390.html
The outcome revealed a noticeable price discrepancy: the phone with a 12% battery was charged 17.56 euros (Rs 1,585), while the phone with an 84% battery was charged 16.6 euros (Rs 1,498) for the same trip.

zzyzzx says

Patrick says

I just heard that Uber charges you more if your phone battery is low.

I'd be surprised if they didn't.

https://www.merca20.com/does-uber-charge-you-more-when-your-phone-battery-is-low/

https://www.indiatimes.com/trending/human-interest/uber-accused-of-increasing-fares-when-users-phone-battery-is-low-599390.html
The outcome revealed a noticeable price discrepancy: the phone with a 12% battery was charged 17.56 euros (Rs 1,585), while the phone with an 84% battery was charged 16.6 euros (Rs 1,498) for the same trip.

Agreed, but it's still 50% cheaper than a fucking cab which is fucking unreliable, takes longer to arrive and so on an so fourth. There's a reason uber exists.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/uber-lyft-stop-operations-minneapolis-161252100.html

Uber, Lyft to stop operations in Minneapolis over minimum wage law

https://www.newsweek.com/california-jobless-claims-spike-layoffs-tech-retail-sectors-1877101

California Sees Huge Spike in People Losing Their Jobs | Nevada and California Lead Nation in Unemployment with Rates Spiking Above 5%

Amid the state's struggle with an unemployment rate of 5.1 percent, (second only to Nevada's 5.3 percent) according to the BLS, the recent surge in jobless claims reflects a broader trend of layoffs across the state. The uptick is particularly significant considering the broader context of the national jobless claims that came in at 217,000, positioning California's labor market trends within a national discussion on employment stability.

California's Imperial County, which borders Baja California, has an unemployment rate of 18.7 percent, the state's highest, according to the California Employment Development Department. Colusa County, located in the northern part of the state, has an unemployment rate of 11.4 percent. Los Angeles County's rate is 5 percent, while the lowest unemployment rate in the state is 3.3 percent in the western county of San Mateo.

A deeper analysis of sector-specific layoffs reveals that key industries are bracing for impact. According to Warn Tracker, a website that monitors mass layoffs and plant closures though WARN notices, California has already seen notifications for 22,280 workers about upcoming layoffs. Importantly, a large portion of the layoffs are not immediate and are scheduled to begin from this month through May, meaning the number could rise as the year progresses.

Most recent figures for California is 5.2% unemployment rate. Yep, it went up another tick.

https://edd.ca.gov/en/about_edd/news_releases_and_announcements/unemployment-january-2024/

Misc says

Most recent figures for California is 5.2% unemployment rate. Yep, it went up another tick.

https://edd.ca.gov/en/about_edd/news_releases_and_announcements/unemployment-january-2024/

Would the numbers include illegals?

There is nothing a few more millions of illegals can't cure.

To answer the question. Yes, it includes illegals.

Misc says

There is nothing a few more millions of illegals can't cure.

To answer the question. Yes, it includes illegals.

So in California the unemployment stats are not based on how many are collecting unemployment? Or do illegals collect unemployment in CA?

HeadSet says

Or do illegals collect unemployment in CA?

But of course:

In California, to be eligible for unemployment benefits, one must meet certain requirements. These include:

Having earned enough wages during the base period.
Being totally or partially unemployed.
Being unemployed through no fault of your own.
Being physically able to work.
Being available for work.
Being ready and willing to accept work immediately.

These requirements apply to all individuals, regardless of their immigration status.

https://edd.ca.gov/en/unemployment/Eligibility

Eric Holder says

These requirements apply to all individuals, regardless of their immigration status.

Jesus. H. Christ.

They only get unemployment if they worked a W2 job. Most of the recent illegals work for Uber, Lyft, Amazon, etc as independent contractors. In CA, only the pandemic "emergency" allowed for IC's to collect unemployment.