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This is the only graph that matters.

The US is doing better than virtually all of Western Europe and the UK.

If we removed New York and their incompetent Democrat Governor and Mayor from the mix, America would be the Gold Standard in how to keep COVID patients alive.

socal2 says

This is the only graph that matters.

The US is doing better than virtually all of Western Europe and the UK.

If we removed New York and their incompetent Democrat Governor and Mayor from the mix, America would be the Gold Standard in how to keep COVID patients alive.

Truth. Deaths are really the only thing that matters because that is what is creating the hype. The claim of overrun hospitals has been clearly debunked and has not happened in any way shape or form. There are stories coming out now of reclassified deaths from months ago as Covid that get counted today as well. If they miscategorized past deaths, it's highly likely some of the current ones are as well. Science though....

This dude watches too much CNN/MSNBC. It's pathetic to see such an idiot shill for the democratic party and politicize an unavoidable tragedy.

Guess I'll show a chart of Clinton giving nuke technology technology or not killing bin laden.

Give a LibbyFuck a graph with an erection and they'll run with it.

If we removed New York and their incompetent Democrat Governor and Mayor from the mix, America would be the Gold Standard in how to keep COVID patients alive.

Yes, even more so if we counted Covid-19 deaths the same way as Germany.

Fortwaynemobile says

China isn’t good, they lie too, so that’s out the window.

You can't cover up an epidemic. So no, they aren't out the window.

Fortwaynemobile says

You can’t compare small countries to US by number of sick metric. As it scales with population.

This can be compensated for. I quoted the graph provided by the site. Nonetheless, the infection rate in the US went exponential even though we had both China and Europe as warnings. This could have been avoided by closing the border, quarantining Americans returning from overseas, and having a stay-at-home order back in February.

And if we had done that, the economy would not be taking the hit it is and the unemployment would have gotten so bad -- and that's only going to get worse.

You should be disappointed in the government for mishandling this. We've known for over a 100 years that we had to prepare for the next big pandemic. We'll probably not prepare for the next one either because Americans have such short memories

Ceffer says

Give a LibbyFuck a graph with an erection and they'll run with it.

I suppose everyone who hasn't drunk your koolaid is a libbyfuck to you. I've never liked the left. I'm a moderate like most Americans. Are you such an extremist that moderates seem like the enemy to you?

Dholliday126 says

This dude watches too much CNN/MSNBC.

I've quoted various news sites including Fox and Newsweek. If you discount facts because your "enemies" mention them, then you are an extremist.

I've got news for you. The typical America who has nothing to do with the left or the right still considers Fox and Breitbart to be far less reliable than CNN and even MSNBC. If you want to disregard all four of those sources as bias, then fine. But if you are advocating that CNN and MSNBC are trash and Fox and Breitbart are not, then that's just stupid.

In any case, even bias sources can sometimes tell the truth and there is nothing I've cited that isn't true and you can't get confirmation from dozens of major news sources. So pick whichever one doesn't give you butt hurt. There are plenty to choose from.

socal2 says

This is the only graph that matters.

If you are going to use this graph, you have to time-shift from the start of the infection in each country. Otherwise the per-capital difference is only due to the virus arriving in the U.S. at a later date. Do that and again, the U.S. is doing a worst job than most other countries even most, but not all, European countries.

Shaman says

Nobody fucking knows anything for sure about China except that they are total and unashamed LIARS!

Then perhaps the Trump administration should simply cut all trade with China. Damn totalitarian Communist country that has never been a friend to the west anyway.

In any case, the WHO has no reason to lie about China.

OccasionalCortex says

Your entire post here is Fake News because you actually want us to believe Chinese fake figures.

Don't like the facts? Call them fake figures with no evidence. You'll never have to deal with facts that contradict your politics.

It is impossible to convince a man of something he does not want to believe, and it is pointless to value the opinions of such a man.

annoyed1 says

hen perhaps the Trump administration should simply cut all trade with China. Damn totalitarian Communist country that has never been a friend to the west anyway.

Agreed! Cut those commie bastards OUT until they stop killing and enslaving their own people.

annoyed1 says

It is impossible to convince a man of something he does not want to believe, and it is pointless to value the opinions of such a man.

So what makes you believe that communist China is being honest about Covid-19?

annoyed1 says

OccasionalCortex says

Your entire post here is Fake News because you actually want us to believe Chinese fake figures.

Don't like the facts? Call them fake figures with no evidence. You'll never have to deal with facts that contradict your politics.

It is impossible to convince a man of something he does not want to believe, and it is pointless to value the opinions of such a man.

Wait a minute. Are you trying to claim that there’s no evidence China has falsified its numbers in relation to the Chinese Wuhan virus?

Are you a shill for the Chinese govt? I know one of your reporters got into a WH press briefing...

Troll.

annoyed1 says

In any case, the WHO has no reason to lie about China.

Nobody who is even marginally informed about the Covid crisis is unaware of the excessive schlong gobbling with which the WHO engaged in during the early months, parroting the CCP party line that 1)there was no problem. 2) the virus isn’t human to human transmissible, 3)shutting down air travel is the wrong response and is racist, and 4)China’s numbers are all true.

Nobody believes this but Chinese shills who are even now trying to sell the absurd fantasy that the USA infected Wuhan with this plague.

Therefore you are a CCP shill until proven otherwise.

annoyed1 says

In any case, the WHO has no reason to lie about China.

hahaha

Onvacation says

So what makes you believe that communist China is being honest about Covid-19?

Lack of mass grave satellite images. The whistle blowers who have revealed the lies of that corrupt government. They lied about when they know the virus started, but they can't hide the numbers from their own civilian health care workers. We live in the information age. Shit like that always gets out.

Shaman says

Nobody believes this but Chinese shills who are even now trying to sell the absurd fantasy that the USA infected Wuhan with this plague.

Therefore you are a CCP shill until proven otherwise.

A Chinese shill? What tin-hat nonsense. The US should cut off all trade with the evil Commies. What shill is going to say that? Your accusation is just plain stupid and paranoid. How would one even prove a negative? What if someone said you were a murderer until proven otherwise? How would you prove that you never murdered anyone at any time? What a dumb criteria.

How delusional are people on this site? Do you have any idea how crazy your accusation sounds to any normal person?

annoyed1 says

How delusional are people on this site? Do you have any idea how crazy your accusation sounds to any normal person?

Gaslighting doesn’t work on us either. Go away shill. Or stay and maybe learn something. Either way don’t come at us with CCP propaganda and expect anything but a much-deserved smack down!

annoyed1 says

Lack of mass grave satellite images.

Ever heard of cremation?

annoyed1 says

Lack of mass grave satellite images.

Ever heard of cremation?

Even if they are not lying they could have kept the world more informed and let western teams in to study the virus.

Can you at least admit that the CCP is a vile murderous regime that enslaves and kills its own people?

annoyed1 says

You can't cover up an epidemic. So no, they aren't out the window.

Sure you can, if you control the Media, censor the Internet, and control every aspect of the Health and Law Enforcement System. Disappear the Whistleblowers, kick out the foreigners, there is no independent press or judiciary: You most certainly can.

You think China since November has had only 5000 deaths? That's fewer than those in the Madrid, Spain Metro Area, which is a fraction of a fraction China's size and population.

NoCoupForYou says

You think China since November has had only 5000 deaths? That's fewer than those in the Madrid, Spain Metro Area, which is a fraction of a fraction China's size and population.

Leftist shills truly are a special kind of stupid.

@annoyed1
Onvacation says

Can you at least admit that the CCP is a vile murderous regime that enslaves and kills its own people?

Some say you are a shill for China. Most people agree that the CCP is an authoritarian regime that kills and enslaves it's own people. Would you agree with this assessment?

NoCoupForYou says

annoyed1 says

You can't cover up an epidemic. So no, they aren't out the window.

Sure you can, if you control the Media, censor the Internet, and control every aspect of the Health and Law Enforcement System. Disappear the Whistleblowers, kick out the foreigners, there is no independent press or judiciary: You most certainly can.

You think China since November has had only 5000 deaths? That's fewer than those in the Madrid, Spain Metro Area, which is a fraction of a fraction China's size and population.

China is most certainly over 100K and we'll eventually find that out. Could be a million given the population size and the initial drama and reaction in the early, early days of the virus.

They're not going to keep marking underlying health conditions as Covid deaths anymore. Their economy could potentially be crushed by this and they're probably going to enter a depression regardless. Better to make themselves look clean.

I'm still holding out, but part of me does believe this was biological warfare on our part. Plant it, blame them, bring jobs back here, and the one minor side effect is it kills off some of our expensive old people which is technically a positive. We were the last wave after all and had time to prepare and we actually did. Everyone was so worried about Trump nuking people, I think he may have just done it more subtly via biology. Tin foil hat stuff, but it would make sense in the grand scheme of things for getting reelected and his agenda.

How are you supposed to respond to a hoax and NWO Psyops?

annoyed1 says

Is that an official graph? Because every official graph these sophisticated egg head morons have produced to date has been stunningly wrong.
A village Idiot could have been producing them. But I'm being redundant talking about Bill Gates aren't I?

annoyed1 says

A Chinese shill? What tin-hat nonsense. The US should cut off all trade with the evil Commies. What shill is going to say that? Your accusation is just plain stupid and paranoid.

Our annoyed comrade has taken a break.