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Heraclitusstudent
2020 Apr 7, 10:29pm
Heraclitusstudent
2020 Apr 7, 10:29pm
NPR and NY Times have become laden with woke and SJW, mostly has a reaction to Trump.
Particularly after Trump's buddy declared the press is the opposition.
They have been 69ing each other since 2016.
Particularly after Trump's buddy declared the press is the opposition.
They have been 69ing each other since 2016.
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richwicks
2020 Apr 8, 12:45am
richwicks
2020 Apr 8, 12:45am
Heraclitusstudent says
Nobody that I recall claimed "the press" is the opposition.
Trump however did state that "fake news" is the opposition - or to be correct, "the enemy of the American people"
It just appears that everything that we are told to be as "mainstream news" happens to be "fake news" or more colloquially - propaganda.
There is no freedom of the press of the United States. Name one news organization that is "mainstream news" in opposition to the Afghanistan war. How about the Syrian war? How about the occupation of Iraq? What is the end goal of all this? You don't know - and you don't know because they don't even postulate what the purpose is.
I can't think of any stated mission for these wars or occupations - can you? Our criminal government murders people, and you're unaware of it. You don't even know why they are murdering people. Doesn't that make you think maybe, possibly, something is up?
NPR and NY Times have become laden with woke and SJW, mostly has a reaction to Trump.
Particularly after Trump's buddy declared the press is the opposition.
Nobody that I recall claimed "the press" is the opposition.
Trump however did state that "fake news" is the opposition - or to be correct, "the enemy of the American people"
It just appears that everything that we are told to be as "mainstream news" happens to be "fake news" or more colloquially - propaganda.
There is no freedom of the press of the United States. Name one news organization that is "mainstream news" in opposition to the Afghanistan war. How about the Syrian war? How about the occupation of Iraq? What is the end goal of all this? You don't know - and you don't know because they don't even postulate what the purpose is.
I can't think of any stated mission for these wars or occupations - can you? Our criminal government murders people, and you're unaware of it. You don't even know why they are murdering people. Doesn't that make you think maybe, possibly, something is up?
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2020 Apr 8, 6:51am
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2020 Apr 8, 6:51am
Is the “right wing media” to the left as the boogeyman non existent white nationalist danger?
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Onvacation
2020 Apr 8, 8:59am
Onvacation
2020 Apr 8, 8:59am
Heraclitusstudent says
That explains the Russian collusion hoax and the Ukrainian bribery hoax.
Do you think they will ever investigate Hunter?
NPR and NY Times have become laden with woke and SJW, mostly has a reaction to Trump.
Particularly after Trump's buddy declared the press is the opposition.
They have been 69ing each other since 2016.
That explains the Russian collusion hoax and the Ukrainian bribery hoax.
Do you think they will ever investigate Hunter?
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Patrick
2020 Apr 8, 11:51am
Patrick
2020 Apr 8, 11:51am
Lol, they will never investigate Hunter Biden.
Epstein didn't kill himself either.
But the media is not at all interested in journalism anymore. Only in fomenting hate for anyone who wants to bring back manufacturing to the US or to keep illegals from undercutting wages of US citizens.
Epstein didn't kill himself either.
But the media is not at all interested in journalism anymore. Only in fomenting hate for anyone who wants to bring back manufacturing to the US or to keep illegals from undercutting wages of US citizens.
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Patrick
2020 Apr 8, 11:56am
Patrick
2020 Apr 8, 11:56am
Yes, it does seem they are overcounting deaths by counting anyone who died with the virus as having died from it.
And since we know the vast majority of the people who get a serious enough case of the Wuhan virus to put their lives in jeopardy have some other medical condition acting as a comorbidity, there’s a real gray area in many cases as to whether the virus was the true cause of death.
In Italy, that country’s equivalent to Dr. Anthony Fauci (not a perfect analogy, but near enough to our purposes) admitted that seven out of eight deaths attributed to the virus were really caused by one or more other comorbidities. In other words, the patient was on death’s door whether the virus got to them or not.
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richwicks
2020 Apr 8, 1:13pm
richwicks
2020 Apr 8, 1:13pm
Patrick says
I would disagree. The media has no real interests at all, other than pushing the propaganda of our intelligence agencies. I think you are mistakenly thinking they have principles and goals for society, they are just propagandists that do as they are told.
I've tried to reason with people labelled as reporters, explain how they are wrong, attempted to get them to talk to people who actually knew what was being discussed - it's impossible, because they are pushing propaganda. They don't care about the truth or reality, that is not what they are paid to do.
The only relevant question in my estimation is where do they get their orders, and it seems it is from the intelligence agencies. Only the intelligence agencies can freely lie to the press, congress, and violate laws without threat of any prosecution. Take the FISA abuse - or the 3 year long coup attempt. It seems logical that they are our true rulers. They have all the information, and with information there is power. Imagine knowing everything any congressman, lawyer, or judge ever said or did - how much power would you have over them? It seems to me they are the true government.
But the media is not at all interested in journalism anymore. Only in fomenting hate for anyone who wants to bring back manufacturing to the US or to keep illegals from undercutting wages of US citizens.
I would disagree. The media has no real interests at all, other than pushing the propaganda of our intelligence agencies. I think you are mistakenly thinking they have principles and goals for society, they are just propagandists that do as they are told.
I've tried to reason with people labelled as reporters, explain how they are wrong, attempted to get them to talk to people who actually knew what was being discussed - it's impossible, because they are pushing propaganda. They don't care about the truth or reality, that is not what they are paid to do.
The only relevant question in my estimation is where do they get their orders, and it seems it is from the intelligence agencies. Only the intelligence agencies can freely lie to the press, congress, and violate laws without threat of any prosecution. Take the FISA abuse - or the 3 year long coup attempt. It seems logical that they are our true rulers. They have all the information, and with information there is power. Imagine knowing everything any congressman, lawyer, or judge ever said or did - how much power would you have over them? It seems to me they are the true government.
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Patrick
2020 Apr 8, 1:45pm
Patrick
2020 Apr 8, 1:45pm
richwicks says
OK, so where do the intelligence agencies get their orders?
Probably from the globalists who already pretty much own the government and make their money by having the Chinese make things and then selling them here.
The media has no real interests at all, other than pushing the propaganda of our intelligence agencies.
OK, so where do the intelligence agencies get their orders?
Probably from the globalists who already pretty much own the government and make their money by having the Chinese make things and then selling them here.
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richwicks
2020 Apr 8, 2:06pm
richwicks
2020 Apr 8, 2:06pm
Patrick says
I don't know. Perhaps they make the orders, perhaps it's from the banking system. I can only speculate. I don't have enough information.
I can only say that if you break the law, and you don't get prosecuted even when you are clearly guilty, then you must be part of the ruling class or a subject of them - take Jussie Smollett for example, or George W. Bush, or Hillary Clinton or Debbie Wasserman Schultz. They flagrantly break the law and do this constantly. I'm pretty certain the intelligence agencies are underlings, but I'm not positive they are.
Patrick says
Who are "the globalists"? Many people speculate it's the people who control the banking system. After all, they just print money, they are infinitely wealthy. There's no audits so you can't see if they are counterfeiting. I think it's a good guess that it is them, but I cannot be certain if they aren't under some sort of control themselves. Harley Schlanger suggests it goes right up to the ruling establishment of England. Is he correct? I do not know, but he's interesting to listen to.
The most useful thing I did was dispense with drawing conclusions when I have incomplete information. I know a lot of possibilities, and in time, I'll get more information sufficient to draw a conclusion. I suspect in 10 years I can answer you questions, but at this point, I can only speculate. I honestly don't know.
What I do know, if our elected officials are almost entirely composed of puppets. Their job is to take orders and whatever they're told to do, sell it to the public as a good thing. This should be clear with Tulsi Gabbard, the supposed anti-war candidate giving her endorsement to Joe Biden, a man that fully supported the Iraq War of non existent-weapons of mass destruction. Either she sold out, or was a cutout. I don't know.
The media has no real interests at all, other than pushing the propaganda of our intelligence agencies.
OK, so where do the intelligence agencies get their orders?
I don't know. Perhaps they make the orders, perhaps it's from the banking system. I can only speculate. I don't have enough information.
I can only say that if you break the law, and you don't get prosecuted even when you are clearly guilty, then you must be part of the ruling class or a subject of them - take Jussie Smollett for example, or George W. Bush, or Hillary Clinton or Debbie Wasserman Schultz. They flagrantly break the law and do this constantly. I'm pretty certain the intelligence agencies are underlings, but I'm not positive they are.
Patrick says
Probably from the globalists who already pretty much own the government and make their money by having the Chinese make things and then selling them here.
Who are "the globalists"? Many people speculate it's the people who control the banking system. After all, they just print money, they are infinitely wealthy. There's no audits so you can't see if they are counterfeiting. I think it's a good guess that it is them, but I cannot be certain if they aren't under some sort of control themselves. Harley Schlanger suggests it goes right up to the ruling establishment of England. Is he correct? I do not know, but he's interesting to listen to.
The most useful thing I did was dispense with drawing conclusions when I have incomplete information. I know a lot of possibilities, and in time, I'll get more information sufficient to draw a conclusion. I suspect in 10 years I can answer you questions, but at this point, I can only speculate. I honestly don't know.
What I do know, if our elected officials are almost entirely composed of puppets. Their job is to take orders and whatever they're told to do, sell it to the public as a good thing. This should be clear with Tulsi Gabbard, the supposed anti-war candidate giving her endorsement to Joe Biden, a man that fully supported the Iraq War of non existent-weapons of mass destruction. Either she sold out, or was a cutout. I don't know.
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Patrick
2020 Apr 8, 2:19pm
Patrick
2020 Apr 8, 2:19pm
richwicks says
People who profit from outsourcing manufacturing and insourcing mass illegal labor, or from selling to a global customer base.
Or their minions who get funding to cry RACISM and feel better about themselves.
Jeff Bezos is perhaps the classic globalist, richest guy in the world largely through importing Chinese goods.
Apple, because it produces in China and sells here.
Google and Facebook, because the majority of their profits and employees come from abroad.
All of Hollywood, which makes the majority of its profits from abroad as well and bitterly hates traditional American culture.
Every restaurant and bar owner who employs illegals to save on wages (probably the majority).
Major investment banks, like Goldman Sachs, whose profits are limited by pesky national laws.
All of the Congressmen who are for "free trade" regardless of job loss in America, because that's what their campaign donors demand.
All of the bitter blue-haired aging women who support mass illegal immigration in Europe and US. But they are not in it for profit, just the bitterness.
It's not so much a conspiracy as it is the profit motive distorting businessmen's ability to perceive the harm they are doing to their own country.
Who are "the globalists"?
People who profit from outsourcing manufacturing and insourcing mass illegal labor, or from selling to a global customer base.
Or their minions who get funding to cry RACISM and feel better about themselves.
Jeff Bezos is perhaps the classic globalist, richest guy in the world largely through importing Chinese goods.
Apple, because it produces in China and sells here.
Google and Facebook, because the majority of their profits and employees come from abroad.
All of Hollywood, which makes the majority of its profits from abroad as well and bitterly hates traditional American culture.
Every restaurant and bar owner who employs illegals to save on wages (probably the majority).
Major investment banks, like Goldman Sachs, whose profits are limited by pesky national laws.
All of the Congressmen who are for "free trade" regardless of job loss in America, because that's what their campaign donors demand.
All of the bitter blue-haired aging women who support mass illegal immigration in Europe and US. But they are not in it for profit, just the bitterness.
It's not so much a conspiracy as it is the profit motive distorting businessmen's ability to perceive the harm they are doing to their own country.
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richwicks
2020 Apr 8, 2:35pm
richwicks
2020 Apr 8, 2:35pm
Patrick says
That is known as the rentier class. People who do not produce wealth but are leaches off from production.
Patrick says
The system is broken.
At one time, speculators and the rentier class was essentially abolished in the United States. Our downfall is now these two groups are held up as examples to aspire to. The boomers embraced both.
Neither class can exist with a commodity standard by the way. Eventually the supply of money is exhausted, and there's a reset. That doesn't happen with a fiat paper standard because more money can be created at will. Sure you can exploit workers in a 3rd world country, until you run out of the commodity, sure you can exploit tenets of business and just non home owners, until their money is exhausted, but eventually there's a debt collapse.
The problem we're running into is that China, India, Russia - they're happy to accept paper currency, as long as they can buy useful resources with it. When that ends, it collapses. A hard commodity standard prevents a horrific collapse, but we don't have that.
Here I'm sitting at home with my stupid "hi tech" job, wondering what the outcome of this panicdemic will produce. I think you've been waiting for Depression 2.0 and so have I - I think this might be it, and it's not going to be pleasant. I've planned for this for 20 years, but I think I've under prepared. At least it's probable my parents will be dead before it gets really awful I think.
If this isn't the collapse, I dread to think what will be. The longer it is put off, the worse the hangover will be.
Who are "the globalists"?
People who profit from outsourcing manufacturing and insourcing mass illegal labor, or from selling to a global customer base.
That is known as the rentier class. People who do not produce wealth but are leaches off from production.
Patrick says
It's not so much a conspiracy as it is the profit motive distorting businessmen's ability to perceive the harm they are doing to their own country.
The system is broken.
At one time, speculators and the rentier class was essentially abolished in the United States. Our downfall is now these two groups are held up as examples to aspire to. The boomers embraced both.
Neither class can exist with a commodity standard by the way. Eventually the supply of money is exhausted, and there's a reset. That doesn't happen with a fiat paper standard because more money can be created at will. Sure you can exploit workers in a 3rd world country, until you run out of the commodity, sure you can exploit tenets of business and just non home owners, until their money is exhausted, but eventually there's a debt collapse.
The problem we're running into is that China, India, Russia - they're happy to accept paper currency, as long as they can buy useful resources with it. When that ends, it collapses. A hard commodity standard prevents a horrific collapse, but we don't have that.
Here I'm sitting at home with my stupid "hi tech" job, wondering what the outcome of this panicdemic will produce. I think you've been waiting for Depression 2.0 and so have I - I think this might be it, and it's not going to be pleasant. I've planned for this for 20 years, but I think I've under prepared. At least it's probable my parents will be dead before it gets really awful I think.
If this isn't the collapse, I dread to think what will be. The longer it is put off, the worse the hangover will be.
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mell
2020 Apr 8, 3:40pm
richwicks says
This is most evidently in rent/house prices. Although on avg. they go up globally with inflation and more people on the planet it is baffling how in the US we managed to sell that "house" as the American dream, or to live in naturally beautiful bit otherwise shithole areas such as SF for such a premium, when you can rent/ buy pristine houses farms in other countries more densely populated than the US for a fraction of the prices here. This is not possible though without the help of the sheeple. The brainwashing of millions of Americans that they have to live in a hip area when they could work and live for 1/10th of the price somewhere in a flyover state and lead a happy life. Then they make the zoning laws so brutal that nobody can build and keep the supply artificially low. Housing is one the biggest rackets of the US of A.
Patrick saysWho are "the globalists"?
People who profit from outsourcing manufacturing and insourcing mass illegal labor, or from selling to a global customer base.
That is known as the rentier class. People who do not produce wealth but are leaches off from production.
Patrick saysIt's not so much a conspiracy as it is the profit motive distorting businessmen's ability to perceive the harm they are doing to their own country.
The system is broken.
At one time, speculators and the rentier class was essentially abolished in the United States. Our downfall is now these two groups are held up as examples to aspire to. The boomers embraced both.
Neither class can exist with a commodity standard by the way. Eventually the supply of money is exhausted,...
This is most evidently in rent/house prices. Although on avg. they go up globally with inflation and more people on the planet it is baffling how in the US we managed to sell that "house" as the American dream, or to live in naturally beautiful bit otherwise shithole areas such as SF for such a premium, when you can rent/ buy pristine houses farms in other countries more densely populated than the US for a fraction of the prices here. This is not possible though without the help of the sheeple. The brainwashing of millions of Americans that they have to live in a hip area when they could work and live for 1/10th of the price somewhere in a flyover state and lead a happy life. Then they make the zoning laws so brutal that nobody can build and keep the supply artificially low. Housing is one the biggest rackets of the US of A.
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Ceffer
2020 Apr 8, 5:02pm
Ceffer
2020 Apr 8, 5:02pm
Patrick says
What's the big deal? This is called 'business as usual'.
Provable lies, distortions, and omissions on NPR and in the NY Times
What's the big deal? This is called 'business as usual'.
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Patrick
2020 Apr 8, 6:26pm
Patrick
2020 Apr 8, 6:26pm
Tim Aurora says
Trump will at least tell the truth about China's devastation of American manufacturing.
Bezos will not.
You are barking at the wrong tree
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/06/trump-foreign-business-interests/
Patrick saysJeff Bezos is perhaps the classic globalist, richest guy in the world largely through importing Chinese goods.
Trump will at least tell the truth about China's devastation of American manufacturing.
Bezos will not.
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richwicks
2020 Apr 8, 7:37pm
richwicks
2020 Apr 8, 7:37pm
HEYYOU says
Of course we do. Why do you think Trump was elected instead of Jeb Bush? Or Hillary Clinton, who VOTED for the Iraq war when she was a Junior senator of NY?
Republican voters were the first to realize their party was run by a bunch of traitorous scumbags and overturned the party as a result.
Who is running on the Democratic ticket this year? A man that was an outspoken supporter for the Iraq War, who is frankly - an absolute fucking pervert - with young girls, who is as corrupt as shit dipped in nuclear waste selling access to his office as VP through his randy fucker of a son, and is either senile or pretending to be senile. Hunter Biden left his WIFE to marry his dead brother wife, months after he died then he knocked up a stripper. What a fucking asshole, well the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Democratic voters haven't done anything at all about reforming their party. Get to work. Screaming "orange man bad" isn't doing anything. The Democratic party is every bit as corrupt as the Republican party was during that lying, warmongering, piece of shit Neocon cunt's term - George W. Bush. Fix your goddamned fucking party and stop allowing George W. Bush clones from "winning" the primary and running them for the presidency please. Mr Hope. 'n Change, spent 8 years bombing 7 nations, destroyed Libya and nearly did the same to Syria. He was George W. Bush in blackface and you praise him! It just shows everybody you have NO PRINCIPLES whatsoever.
Hell, if Trump was a democrat you'd be a fanatical supporter of him, because you have ZERO principles. Well guess what? He is a democrat. He only "changed" parties so he could run for office. Can't run in the Democratic party because of their super-delegates. He isn't stupid at all. He realized the system was entirely corrupt, and the leadership of both parties are identical - but you've not figured it out yet. It's staring you in the face and you call the Orange Man dumb.
HEYYOU says
Hypocrisy? Obama bombed Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan, and Somalia. He started a war with Syria - all after he won the Nobel Peace of Crap Prize. He lied about Assad gassing his own people. You're the hypocrite whining about that pile of manure not being in office anymore. Good riddance, I hope he rots in hell with George W. Bush, George H. Bush, and William Clinton - those miserable murderers.
This is what people are talking about when they talk about Trump Derangement Syndrome. I don't think you're crazy though, I just think you're completely unprincipled. You have no values, at all. You're juts a fanatical supporter of a party - the Neocon war party. How can anybody respect you with the principles you display?
Never thought in 2003 I'd be agreeing with the republican electorate but they came to sanity. You guys have gone NUTS.
Someone forget about Right wing media lies.
Got the 10,000 links to RepCon media saying "Iraq has WMD"?
Scum Trump & his scum supporters have killed more Americans than G.W. Bush & his slime supporters.
RepCons' silence is like someone cut their tongues off.
Of course we do. Why do you think Trump was elected instead of Jeb Bush? Or Hillary Clinton, who VOTED for the Iraq war when she was a Junior senator of NY?
Republican voters were the first to realize their party was run by a bunch of traitorous scumbags and overturned the party as a result.
Who is running on the Democratic ticket this year? A man that was an outspoken supporter for the Iraq War, who is frankly - an absolute fucking pervert - with young girls, who is as corrupt as shit dipped in nuclear waste selling access to his office as VP through his randy fucker of a son, and is either senile or pretending to be senile. Hunter Biden left his WIFE to marry his dead brother wife, months after he died then he knocked up a stripper. What a fucking asshole, well the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
Democratic voters haven't done anything at all about reforming their party. Get to work. Screaming "orange man bad" isn't doing anything. The Democratic party is every bit as corrupt as the Republican party was during that lying, warmongering, piece of shit Neocon cunt's term - George W. Bush. Fix your goddamned fucking party and stop allowing George W. Bush clones from "winning" the primary and running them for the presidency please. Mr Hope. 'n Change, spent 8 years bombing 7 nations, destroyed Libya and nearly did the same to Syria. He was George W. Bush in blackface and you praise him! It just shows everybody you have NO PRINCIPLES whatsoever.
Hell, if Trump was a democrat you'd be a fanatical supporter of him, because you have ZERO principles. Well guess what? He is a democrat. He only "changed" parties so he could run for office. Can't run in the Democratic party because of their super-delegates. He isn't stupid at all. He realized the system was entirely corrupt, and the leadership of both parties are identical - but you've not figured it out yet. It's staring you in the face and you call the Orange Man dumb.
HEYYOU says
Synonym for RepCon hypocrisy- scum.
Hypocrisy? Obama bombed Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan, and Somalia. He started a war with Syria - all after he won the Nobel Peace of Crap Prize. He lied about Assad gassing his own people. You're the hypocrite whining about that pile of manure not being in office anymore. Good riddance, I hope he rots in hell with George W. Bush, George H. Bush, and William Clinton - those miserable murderers.
This is what people are talking about when they talk about Trump Derangement Syndrome. I don't think you're crazy though, I just think you're completely unprincipled. You have no values, at all. You're juts a fanatical supporter of a party - the Neocon war party. How can anybody respect you with the principles you display?
Never thought in 2003 I'd be agreeing with the republican electorate but they came to sanity. You guys have gone NUTS.
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Patrick
2020 Apr 8, 9:01pm
Patrick
2020 Apr 8, 9:01pm
richwicks says
Lol, yes, Trump is a better Democrat that any Democrat.
He's doing the things for the workers that the Democrats keep failing to do. Especially in going after outsourcing.
Well guess what? He is a democrat. He only "changed" parties so he could run for office. Can't run in the Democratic party because of their super-delegates. He isn't stupid at all. He realized the system was entirely corrupt, and the leadership of both parties are identical - but you've not figured it out yet. It's staring you in the face and you call the Orange Man dumb.
Lol, yes, Trump is a better Democrat that any Democrat.
He's doing the things for the workers that the Democrats keep failing to do. Especially in going after outsourcing.
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richwicks
2020 Apr 8, 10:43pm
richwicks
2020 Apr 8, 10:43pm
Patrick says
I'll bet you a beer that @HEYYOU never responds to it. I think you have a bot here. I see he's on basically everybody's ignore list. If he isn't a bot, and he actually does make a coherent response, I'll be very surprised.
The election of Trump has shown me one thing I didn't suspect 15 years ago. The people who call themselves "the left" or identify as "the left", have absolutely no principles. Obama was exactly like Bush save for trivial differences. Nobody really cared about gay marriage either way, nor did they care about transgendered bathrooms - but they pretended to care.
What I didn't know is they don't care about going to war, being lied to in order to start a war, murdering people to steal their resources, breaking the freaking Geneva Conventions for god's sake. I thought people had general moral principles. They don't. It seems to be very rare to find somebody with any principles at all.
wicks
I'll bet you a beer that @HEYYOU never responds to it. I think you have a bot here. I see he's on basically everybody's ignore list. If he isn't a bot, and he actually does make a coherent response, I'll be very surprised.
The election of Trump has shown me one thing I didn't suspect 15 years ago. The people who call themselves "the left" or identify as "the left", have absolutely no principles. Obama was exactly like Bush save for trivial differences. Nobody really cared about gay marriage either way, nor did they care about transgendered bathrooms - but they pretended to care.
What I didn't know is they don't care about going to war, being lied to in order to start a war, murdering people to steal their resources, breaking the freaking Geneva Conventions for god's sake. I thought people had general moral principles. They don't. It seems to be very rare to find somebody with any principles at all.
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Patrick
2020 Apr 9, 8:27am
Patrick
2020 Apr 9, 8:27am
richwicks says
Pretty sure he's human, just very repetitive and unwilling to admit that the Democrats are as bad or worse than the Republicans.
The Democratic Party should be disbanded for its complete failure to act in the public interest.
I think you have a bot here.
Pretty sure he's human, just very repetitive and unwilling to admit that the Democrats are as bad or worse than the Republicans.
The Democratic Party should be disbanded for its complete failure to act in the public interest.
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richwicks
2020 Apr 9, 10:20am
richwicks
2020 Apr 9, 10:20am
HEYYOU says
People just ignore you, you don't need to be banned.
How about a challenge,Patrick.
Ban me.
People just ignore you, you don't need to be banned.
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richwicks
2020 Apr 9, 10:27am
richwicks
2020 Apr 9, 10:27am
HEYYOU says
Then criticize the Democrats for once or somebody in it.
Also you may want to remember what thread you are in. This is about NPR and the NYTimes spewing propaganda, which they do. These are considered "left leaning" organizations, but they're really just pro authoritarian. You're the one that started screaming about Trump. Why about Trump? Why not about Obama blowing up Syria, and the intelligence agencies repeatedly faking chemical attacks and the universal support in continuing that war on both sides of the aisle?
The best thing about Trump's election is that he's openly pointing out what was taboo to point out.
We do have a deep state, that is, a group of unelected bureaucrats controlling foreign and internal policy.
The (latest) Iraq War was a disaster.
We shouldn't be in the freaking Middle East blowing anything up or anywhere else.
We should be co-operating with nations as much as possible.
Our "news" media does lie and produces blatant propaganda.
Our intelligence agencies do lie and they are part of the paroapganda machine.
Our judicial system uses selective prosecution as a political weapon.
That alone was worth electing him - even if he does noting else, that's a tremendous improvement over the last 4 lumps of shit we've had for meat puppet presidents.
Fuck Dems & Reps.
I'm an Independent.
Then criticize the Democrats for once or somebody in it.
Also you may want to remember what thread you are in. This is about NPR and the NYTimes spewing propaganda, which they do. These are considered "left leaning" organizations, but they're really just pro authoritarian. You're the one that started screaming about Trump. Why about Trump? Why not about Obama blowing up Syria, and the intelligence agencies repeatedly faking chemical attacks and the universal support in continuing that war on both sides of the aisle?
The best thing about Trump's election is that he's openly pointing out what was taboo to point out.
We do have a deep state, that is, a group of unelected bureaucrats controlling foreign and internal policy.
The (latest) Iraq War was a disaster.
We shouldn't be in the freaking Middle East blowing anything up or anywhere else.
We should be co-operating with nations as much as possible.
Our "news" media does lie and produces blatant propaganda.
Our intelligence agencies do lie and they are part of the paroapganda machine.
Our judicial system uses selective prosecution as a political weapon.
That alone was worth electing him - even if he does noting else, that's a tremendous improvement over the last 4 lumps of shit we've had for meat puppet presidents.
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Patrick
2020 Apr 9, 12:05pm
Patrick
2020 Apr 9, 12:05pm
HEYYOU says
Nope. You generally don't insult the other users, which is the main rule.
How about a challenge,Patrick.
Ban me.
Nope. You generally don't insult the other users, which is the main rule.
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Patrick
2020 Apr 9, 12:10pm
Patrick
2020 Apr 9, 12:10pm
richwicks says
Damn @richwicks maybe you should run for office. You got one vote right here.
Then again, truth-telling doesn't get you anybribes campaign funding from the people who are raking it in by screwing over the country. So you probably wouldn't be able to compete with those that do take bribes.
Publicly funded campaigns would help fix this, but no one in Congress will support that because they all got elected under the current system of "take bribe, pay media to divide and distract with tranny bathrooms and !RACISM! accusations".
It's going to take a mass public demand for publicly funded campaigns, but that seems unlikely given how deep in bed the media is with the outsource-everything-to-china crowd.
Also you may want to remember what thread you are in. This is about NPR and the NYTimes spewing propaganda, which they do. These are considered "left leaning" organizations, but they're really just pro authoritarian. You're the one that started screaming about Trump. Why about Trump? Why not about Obama blowing up Syria, and the intelligence agencies repeatedly faking chemical attacks and the universal support in continuing that war on both sides of the aisle?
The best thing about Trump's election is that he's openly pointing out what was taboo to point out.
We do have a deep state, that is, a group of unelected bureaucrats controlling foreign and internal policy.
The (latest) Iraq War was a disaster.
We shouldn't be in the freaking Middle East blowing anything up or anywhere else.
We should be co-operating with nations as much as possible.
Our "news" media does lie and produces blat...
Damn @richwicks maybe you should run for office. You got one vote right here.
Then again, truth-telling doesn't get you any
Publicly funded campaigns would help fix this, but no one in Congress will support that because they all got elected under the current system of "take bribe, pay media to divide and distract with tranny bathrooms and !RACISM! accusations".
It's going to take a mass public demand for publicly funded campaigns, but that seems unlikely given how deep in bed the media is with the outsource-everything-to-china crowd.
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2020 Apr 9, 12:29pm
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2020 Apr 9, 12:29pm
That’s definitely another worthy goal of this Covid mess.
First expose the MSM for the deceitful hacks they are
Then use this as pretext for isolationist policy. President Trump has already working towards that goal. Merle Haggard had it right and so does the President. Get us out of cleaning up other nations messes.
www.youtube.com/embed/UodJB1tRNVE
First expose the MSM for the deceitful hacks they are
Then use this as pretext for isolationist policy. President Trump has already working towards that goal. Merle Haggard had it right and so does the President. Get us out of cleaning up other nations messes.
www.youtube.com/embed/UodJB1tRNVE
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richwicks
2020 Apr 9, 1:17pm
richwicks
2020 Apr 9, 1:17pm
Patrick says
Forget that! Who would want to run for office to work in government? What a nightmare that would be to have to work within the government. Elected officials don't have any power. I'd get thrown down the stairs by a bunch of bureaucrats screaming "we own this town!"
The government is entirely corrupt.
Patrick says
I'd end up like Ron Paul, at best.
Damn @richwicks maybe you should run for office. You got one vote right here.
Forget that! Who would want to run for office to work in government? What a nightmare that would be to have to work within the government. Elected officials don't have any power. I'd get thrown down the stairs by a bunch of bureaucrats screaming "we own this town!"
The government is entirely corrupt.
Patrick says
Then again, truth-telling doesn't get you anybribescampaign funding from the people who are raking it in by screwing over the country. So you probably wouldn't be able to compete with those that do take bribes.
I'd end up like Ron Paul, at best.
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Patrick
2020 Apr 10, 12:22pm
Patrick
2020 Apr 10, 12:22pm
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/media-get-cold-feet-after-reporting-democrats-torpedoed-covid-19-bill-change-headlines-to-spread-bipartisan-blame
This is fast becoming my favorite genre of journalism: A major news outlet will at first report accurately on a breaking news event, but then amend its own headline later in such a way as to make sure it does not a) reflect well on Republicans or b) reflect poorly on Democrats.
On Thursday, for example, after Senate Democrats killed Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s small-business COVID-19 relief package, CNN published a breaking news headline that read, “Democrats block GOP-led funding boost for small business aid program.”
There is nothing wrong with that headline. It is entirely accurate!
But CNN changed it anyway to remove all negative implications for Democratic lawmakers. The headline now reads, “Senate at stalemate over more COVID-19 aid after Republicans and Democrats block competing proposals.” Well, shucks, wouldn’t you know it? There is blame to go around for everyone!
Politico did the same thing. Its initial headline claimed Thursday afternoon, “Senate Dems to block new coronavirus relief in bid for more money.” Its revised headline, however, now suggests there is blame to go around. It now reads, “Senate brawl derails fast push for new coronavirus relief.”
Then, of course, there is the New York Times, which reported originally on its live updates blog, “Democrats block G.O.P. proposal for aid to businesses, request more fund.” That has since been amended to read “As Economy Hemorrhages Jobs, Aid Stalls in Senate.”
The really funny thing about this is: These are not even the first examples in this media trend.
In late March, immediately after Senate Democrats scuttled a trillion-dollar-plus coronavirus relief package, the New York Times declared in its initial breaking news headline, "Democrats Block Action on $1.8 Trillion Stimulus."
That headline did not last long.
It was soon changed to, “Democrats Block Action on Stimulus Plan, Seeking Worker Protections.” Amazingly, it was changed a third time and a fourth time, to “Partisan Divide Threatens Deal on Rescue Bill,” and then to “Emergency Economic Rescue Plan in Limbo as Democrats Block Action.” ...
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mell
2020 Apr 11, 10:07am
Patrick says
Saw that yesterday. Good on orange man not to tolerate this blatant lying and fear mongering anymore.
Trump not putting up with bullshit questions anymore.
www.youtube.com/embed/jEeagiSZJBk
Saw that yesterday. Good on orange man not to tolerate this blatant lying and fear mongering anymore.
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FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden
2020 Apr 11, 10:15am
mell says
Jim is trying to make his TDS base happy. Like a sophisticated whore.
Patrick saysTrump not putting up with bullshit questions anymore.
www.youtube.com/embed/jEeagiSZJBk
Saw that yesterday. Good on orange man not to tolerate this blatant lying and fear mongering anymore.
Jim is trying to make his TDS base happy. Like a sophisticated whore.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Apr 11, 10:30pm
No named sources, no verifiable evidence = FAKE NEWS.
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Apr 11, 10:30pm
So now the Fake News @nytimes is tracing the CoronaVirus origins back to Europe, NOT China. This is a first! I wonder what the Failing New York Times got for this one? Are there any NAMED sources? They were recently thrown out of China like dogs, and obviously want back in. Sad!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 11, 2020
No named sources, no verifiable evidence = FAKE NEWS.
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WookieMan
2020 Apr 12, 5:53am
WookieMan
2020 Apr 12, 5:53am
Patrick says
The end with Jim's body language and reaction was hysterical. I don't watch cable networks, but have seen a few clips with that guy. He's a media STD filled vagina, aka whore.
Trump not putting up with bullshit questions anymore
The end with Jim's body language and reaction was hysterical. I don't watch cable networks, but have seen a few clips with that guy. He's a media STD filled vagina, aka whore.
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RC2006
2020 Apr 12, 7:50am
RC2006
2020 Apr 12, 7:50am
I was surprised that NPR had a Stanford Dr. on that was saying the recession/depression could cause more deaths and lower life expectancy globally than the virus.
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Patrick
2020 Apr 13, 6:30pm
Patrick
2020 Apr 13, 6:30pm
Another zillion mainstream media lies here:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/03/29/the_medias_top_lies_and_spins_about_covid-19.html
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/03/29/the_medias_top_lies_and_spins_about_covid-19.html
February 28, 2020: Politico published a piece entitled, “Trump rallies his base to treat coronavirus as a ‘hoax.’” Many in the media and Democratic Party echoed this fake news. Trump was in fact calling the criticisms of his administration’s response to the coronavirus the Democrats’ new hoax.
March 5, 2020: CBS News posted a story falsely claiming President Trump told sick people to go to work. If you read the actual quote, he is talking about healthy people going about their business not knowing that they have the virus: “So if, you know, we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better, just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work, some of them go to work, but they get better.”
March 12, 2020: An Atlantic staff writer upheld the lie that China was “sending aid” to Italy out of goodwill, despite it being disproven by The Washington Post. The shipments in question were exports that had been purchased by Italy and other receiving countries.
March 12, 2020: NBC , NPR , Newsweek , Joe Biden, CNN, and Esquire falsely claimed that President Trump blocked coronavirus testing and rejected WHO coronavirus test kits because lower numbers are good for his re-election.
March 13, 2020: The stock market soared and the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed at a record increase after President Trump and his coronavirus task force held a press conference on the government’s response. CNN had only criticisms of the administration’s response with no mention of the stock market gains, according to The Federalist.
March 13, 2020: The Washington Post published an opinion piece that falsely claimed that President Trump closed the White House Pandemic Office. The Washington Post later released an article that fact checked the initial claims from the opinion piece.
March 15, 2020. The Atlantic published a piece, "The Coronavirus Called America's Bluff," that attempted to assert the Trump administration is just as bad as China's Communist Party in its handling of the coronavirus. Keep in mind that China silenced doctors and journalists and lied to the WHO to keep the pandemic under wraps.
March 16, 2020: The Daily Beast took a cheap shot at the president, but worse, it misled Americans when it headlined a story, “President Trump told several governors that they are largely on their own in stocking up on gear such as respirators and ventilators to fight the novel coronavirus.” Other outlets then echoed the phony report. The president actually said, “We will be backing you, but try getting it yourselves. Point of sales, much better, much more direct if you can get it yourself.”
March 16, 2020: CNN falsely claimed that the Trump administration is considering imposing a national curfew.
March 16, 2020: Reuters, The Guardian, Business Insider, and staffers at the New York Times and MSNBC falsely claim that Trump wants to monopolize a coronavirus vaccine.
March 17, 2020: In a tweet, MSNBC analyst Glenn Kirschner suggests Donald Trump is guilty of negligent homicide “for the way he’s mishandled the Coronavirus crisis.”
March 17, 2020: A doctored tweet suggesting that President Trump would withhold federal aid from his critics circulates on Twitter and Instagram, which FactCheck.org debunked.
March 18, 2020: A Washington Post columnist falsely accused Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of delaying the House’s vote on the coronavirus bill. (To its credit, the paper later ran a correction at the top of the column.)
March 18, 2020: Rick Wilson tweets “#BeInfected” in response to a story about First Lady Melania Trump appearing in public health PSA’s on the coronavirus, which he later said was a joke, deriding the First Lady’s #BeBest campaign.
March 19, 2020: NBC News published a story entitled, “Italy has a world class health system. The coronavirus has pushed it to the breaking point.” Despite NBC’s best efforts to fear monger, a quick Google search tells us that Johns Hopkins ranks Italy’s system, in relation to treating the sick and protecting health care workers, as number 54 in the world.
March 20, 2020: The Daily Mail criticized Trump for calling the coronavirus the Chinese virus, dubbing it racist when the outlet itself used the term just two short months ago because the virus did, indeed, originate in China.
March 20, 2020: CNN published a story entitled, “Yes, Of Course Donald Trump Is Calling Coronavirus The 'China Virus' For Political Reasons”.
March 20, 2020: The Atlantic published a piece blaming President Trump’s personality for the coronavirus outbreak.
March 22, 2020: The New York Times changed a headline from, “Democrats Block Action on $1.8 Trillion Stimulus” to one that blames “partisan divide.”
March 23, 2020: Morning Joe host Joe Scarborough tweeted: “There is no public benefit to this briefing. The networks should all cut away.” This tweet came despite recent polling that shows the majority of Americans approve of President Trump’s response to the coronavirus and disapprove of the media’s coverage.
March 23, 2020: A tabloid run by the Communist Party of China posted a video that contained footage of American media outlets and politicians repeating China’s talking points to portray China’s response to the coronavirus as favorable.
March 23, 2020: An NBC Reporter insinuated that President Trump is responsible for the death of a man who consumed fish tank cleaner. You must read further into her thread to get the crucial fact — that what the man consumed was a parasite treatment for fish, not the medical form of Chloroquine that President Trump has discussed. It’s worth noting the salacious tweet alleging President Trump’s responsibility in this received over 34k retweets, while the final tweet in the thread specifying that the toxic ingredient consumed by the man was not actually the medical form of the drug in question got fewer than 3k retweets.
March 24, 2020: MSNBC host Rachel Maddow tweeted that cable news networks should stop covering the President’s coronavirus briefings, propagating that the President is amplifying misinformation. Seattle NPR announced they will stop airing the President’s coronavirus briefings. Coincidentally, networks are wanting to cut coverage of these briefings as President Trump’s approval rating hits its highest level since 2017.
March 26, 2020: Vox published a story “Trump’s reckless promotion of hydroxychloroquine to fight coronavirus, explained”. Vox failed to mention that when Anthony Fauci was asked if he would prescribe hydroxychloroquine he said "Yeah, of course, particularly if people have no other option. These drugs are approved drugs for other reasons."
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Patrick
2020 Apr 13, 6:32pm
Patrick
2020 Apr 13, 6:32pm
Patrick says
Another good example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Benioff
richwicks saysWho are "the globalists"?
People who profit from outsourcing manufacturing and insourcing mass illegal labor, or from selling to a global customer base.
Or their minions who get funding to cry RACISM and feel better about themselves.
Jeff Bezos is perhaps the classic globalist, richest guy in the world largely through importing Chinese goods.
Apple, because it produces in China and sells here.
Google and Facebook, because the majority of their profits and employees come from abroad.
All of Hollywood, which makes the majority of its profits from abroad as well and bitterly hates traditional American culture.
Every restaurant and bar owner who employs illegals to save on wages (probably the majority).
Maj...
Another good example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Benioff
On September 16, 2018 Marc and his wife Lynne bought Time for $190m.[24]
Benioff supported Hillary Clinton for President of the United States in the 2016 presidential election.[58]
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For each lie, distortion, and omission, there should be:
1. an archived quote with a screenshot or transcript in the case of NPR
2. proof of the lie, distortion, or omission with references others can check
3. an explanation of how the lies, distortions, and omission further the globalist agenda of impoverishing US citizens by outsourcing their jobs and insourcing illegals
It would require dedicated people working full time, because the mainstream media produces lies, distortions, and omissions at such a great rate. So funding is an issue, but perhaps could be covered by advertising, donations, and subscriptions.