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APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

The shit is caustic. It works but it will make you deaf and boil your retinas

Aren't most people with this deaf anyway? Likely with shit vision? If it keeps them alive and the families happy that their fat fuck, diabetic grandpa can live another few months, who cares how bad it is for you. The alternative is killing otherwise healthy people and overwhelming the healthcare system with people that should live because of minor and standard illnesses.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

The shit is caustic. It works but it will make you deaf and boil your retinas.

If I were sick and had choices, I'd be asking about them long before I'd consider this stuff.

Sounds like Fear mongering hype to me, that's not what the survivors it has cured has been saying.

It is, in Korea at least.

Patrick says

Tin foil hat time: what if China discovered that the cure really is that simple, and just decided to let the rest of the world sink into panic and economic depression? Maybe that is really how their death rate fell so quickly, and not really just the lockdown.

Exactly Patrick ! I have read in the mainstream media how China did not allow WHO access to information like the possible origin of the virus and the Chinese treatment plans.

Of course the Left Wing media (CNN, NY Times, NBC, etc.) went on the defensive it was not because of some sinister plot but because the "pride" of the Chinese not wanting help from outside.

I am willing to state the ChiComs would exploit the US media like the CNN's and NBC's to get them to fool enough of the American public into thinking this, then realizing it was not "pride" but actually their "sinister plot" (as part of their 100 Year Plan described by author Michael Pilsbury) to hurt the western world.

It's not a light drug but the main side effects to look out for are QT interval prolongation / irregular heart rhythm and heavy dizzyness/fainting. All the other side effects are manageable and revert quickly. If your heart can handle it you should be good to take it. They should def treat all the serious to critical patients with it. No excuse not to.

I would rather die quickly from an irregular heart beat than to suffer suffocating to death. Which is what happens with CV.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/these-drugs-are-helping-our-coronavirus-patients-11584899438

In 2005, a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention study showed that chloroquine, an analogue, could block a virus from penetrating a cell if administered before exposure. If tissue had already been infected, the drug inhibited the virus.

On March 9 a team of researchers in China published results showing hydroxychloroquine was effective against the 2019 coronavirus in a test tube. The authors suggested a five-day, 12-pill treatment for Covid-19: two 200-milligram tablets twice a day on the first day followed by one tablet twice a day for four more days.

A more recent French study used the drug in combination with azithromycin. Most Americans know azithromycin as the brand name Zithromax Z-Pak, prescribed for upper respiratory infections. The Z-Pak alone doesn’t appear to help fight Covid-19, and the findings of combination treatment are preliminary. ...

One lesson that should inform the U.S. approach: Use this treatment cocktail early, and don’t wait until a patient is on a ventilator in the intensive-care unit.

A couple of careful studies of hydroxychloroquine are in progress, but the results may take weeks or longer. Infectious-disease experts are already using hydroxychloroquine clinically with some success.

Tenpoundbass says

I would rather die quickly from an irregular heart beat than to suffer suffocating to death. Which is what happens with CV.

#amen. My dad had lung cancer before he later got liver cancer. He said the lung was substantially worse mentally and physically. Wanting and trying to gasp for air is something I think most people don't understand unless you have legit heavy asthma or other major respiratory issues. So yeah, if I'm already on a ventilator, toss me some heart attack drugs that potentially could allow me to fucking breath and stay alive.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/32150618

RESULTS:
Hydroxychloroquine (EC50=0.72 μM) was found to be more potent than chloroquine (EC50=5.47 μM) in vitro. Based on PBPK models results, a loading dose of 400 mg twice daily of hydroxychloroquine sulfate given orally, followed by a maintenance dose of 200 mg given twice daily for 4 days is recommended for SARS-CoV-2 infection, as it reached three times the potency of chloroquine phosphate when given 500 mg twice daily 5 days in advance.

From 9th of March.

No Way Jose, Trump can't end this global panic just like that. Just who does he think he is, this took years of preparations and many Globalist retreats to put this together.

These guys really are such creeps.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/nevadas-democrat-governor-issues-emergency-order-barring-use-of-anti-malaria-drugs-for-coronavirus-patients/

Nevada’s Democrat Governor Issues Emergency Order Barring Use of Anti-Malaria Drugs For Coronavirus Patients

Nevada’s Governor Steve Sisolak (D) on Tuesday issued an emergency order barring the use of anti-malaria drugs such as chloroquine for Coronavirus patients.

Last week Sisolak shut down casinos and only kept open essential businesses like grocery stores and health care facilities.

In addition to barring the use of chloroquine for Coronavirus patients on Tuesday, Nevada’s governor also banned social gatherings of more than 10 people.

The insane levels of hate for Trump might lead lots of people to refuse to take any drug he said might work, just because Trump said it.

Hmmm. Kind of a self-solving problem.

If you are going to murder somebody and blame it on Coronavirus, whether it be for life insurance, cheapie divorce, or hatred/malice/jealousy, you better get cranking before it is too late.

APOCALYPSEFUCKsaysPUTFACEHERE says

Wow. It's not first line but someone breathing pink mud has nothing to lose.

Nobody in the world has needed to die from this since at least last Friday.
The truth is, humans need to combat these colds and flues to build up our immune system. Some people's are stronger than others.
Most of the population got it or will get it and not think it's anything more than a smokers cough.
If we gave out medicine to everyone that contracts it, even VAX it into extinction, and don't keep our immune systems exercised and taxed. Then eventually the big one will come a long that kills millions like they keep hyping and portraying this nothing burger in the scheme of things. Unless you're coughing pink mud, then it's a pandemic. But that's only for .000001% of the population.

Just because it cures it, doesn't mean everyone that has it should take it. Just the bad cases, they shouldn't even have to stick a breathing tube down someone's throat. That's the point where it should be considered. Not a second before.

These self interested bastards, want to wait until we come up with a Vax then demand we(Those of us healthy enough it didn't give us symptoms) all get it. Meanwhile that wont do shit for those in ICU that wont make it until tomorrow.

So much lies and deceit, I can only imagine this Trump dragging our FDA Swamp out into the limelight so we can all get a good look at the hideous creatures that lurk there.

The DEMOCRAT Governor of Nevada has issued an order BANNING the use of hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19.
Something something hoarding whatever. This order makes zero sense and may lead to unnecessary deaths.
Stupid old fuck I hope he gets it.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/25/nolte-nevadas-democrat-governor-outlaws-antimalarial-drugs-for-coronavirus-sufferers/

Shaman says

The DEMOCRAT Governor of Nevada has issued an order BANNING the use of hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19.
Something something hoarding whatever. This order makes zero sense and may lead to unnecessary deaths.
Stupid old fuck I hope he gets it.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/25/nolte-nevadas-democrat-governor-outlaws-antimalarial-drugs-for-coronavirus-sufferers/

TDS? Wtf is going on w this?

New study casts doubt on hyrdoxychloroquine’s effectiveness in treating coronavirus
https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/25/new-study-casts-doubt-on-hyrdoxychloroquines-effectiveness-in-treating-coronavirus/

a new small-scale study by researchers in China indicates that the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine actually isn’t any more effective than standard, existing best practice for conventional care of patients with the virus.

Heraclitusstudent says

New study casts doubt on hyrdoxychloroquine’s effectiveness in treating coronavirus
https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/25/new-study-casts-doubt-on-hyrdoxychloroquines-effectiveness-in-treating-coronavirus/

1)A 30 patient “study” is far too small to constitute anything more than an anecdote. Certainly not a scientific conclusion
2)No information was given on ages of patients involved (which could skew the study tremendously if unequal among the test and control groups). If they put a bunch of 35 year olds in the control group and a bunch of 70 year olds in the test group, they’ll get the numbers they want without ever putting anything to the test.
3)It was done in communist China which as we all know is ASSHOE!!

Your Post is worthless.

Shaman says

1)A 30 patient “study” is far too small to constitute anything more than an anecdote. Certainly not a scientific conclusion

Ok so the study done in France that showed it's usefulness is also anecdote.
Everything so far about this drug is anecdote, and if my post was useless, this entire thread is.
You guys are looking at this with Trump colored glasses and clinging to any ray of hope like oysters to a rock.

While we haven't done the proper studies to verify whether or not it is effective...we know how anti-viral medications work and there's reasonable assumption that these medications would work simply because of the way they were designed to attack viral replication.

Not casting judgement on anyone here but its amazing that I'm reading people screaming about this because it's obvious they don't want any of these things to work. What you are viewing is the scientific process in action. We are actively collecting data and trying all kinds of therapies that should in theory aid and speed recovery. Several of them have a high probability of being somewhat effective. Official studies take much longer...but the initial data looks very promising. Anyone who is casting serious doubt on this is practicing science denial.

Heraclitusstudent says

New study casts doubt on hyrdoxychloroquine’s effectiveness in treating coronavirus
https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/25/new-study-casts-doubt-on-hyrdoxychloroquines-effectiveness-in-treating-coronavirus/

Fuck the studies, the cases it's been used on is so far 100%, there is no will from the FDA to test it, they've had 15 fucking years to do clinical trials and testing.

Anyone believing any numbers from the FDA, CDC or the WHO is a fucking moronic idiot. They have less credibility than Geral Nadler explaining how Russia infiltrated Trump's 2016 campaign and stole the US phone number database, and robo called everyone to get everyone to vote for Donald Trump.

I Blame the Democrats and the Commies, but I repeat myself for every death from this, since 3/20/2020.

The cure has been known, the Evil cocksuckers want it to go on, they think they are killing Trump voters, evil Fucks!

The two drugs in question have little or no side effects.
Two questions:

If your spouse had some symptoms of the virus, would you wait for a 5 day test turnaround time, or would you bully your doctor to give the drugs today?
Prince Charles has tested positive. What chance is there that he is NOT taking these antivirals?

It would be great if that works. There is a scientific process and you have to wait for the answer, and in the meantime acknowledge the signs that it is not working as much as the signs it is working.

Heraclitusstudent says

There is a scientific process and you have to wait for the answer, and in the meantime acknowledge the signs that it is not working

That Process is corrupt, broken and doesn't give a fuck about what's best.

Sorry I would gnaw on a sassafras root per a Bohemian Shaman before I would trust what these self serving bastards think. Especially about vaccinations vs cures for diseases.

Jonas Salk turned the Poli pandemic around in 3 years.

Polio Vaccine
In 1947, Salk took a position at University of Pittsburgh, where he began conducting research on polio, also known as infantile paralysis. By 1951, Salk had determined that there were three distinct types of polio viruses and was able to develop a "killed virus" vaccine for the disease. The vaccine used polio viruses that had been grown in a laboratory and then destroyed.

Fuaci has had 15 fucking years, since it was first reported these drugs are effective in treating Covid strains of viruses.

Get Real! There's an interest to explore this cure as an official FDA sanctioned treatment, like there's will from Rod Rosenstien to investigate Comey, Lynch and Clinton.

Stop it already with cheer leading ass kissing, it's indefensible the way the Establishment is carrying on. No excuse at all.

We don't get stats, updates, we don't get we contact and contagion zones, these mother fuckers aren't even interested in stopping the spread.
The only thing they report, is "OOH LOOK AT THE BIRDIE, 30 people died last night!"

That's a shitty way to do it if you ask me. So therefore they have my full vote of NO CONFIDENCE.

Demmedia: Trump wants to kill Grandpa!
Also Demmedia: Don't try promising treatment on very ill Grandpa, because (Trumpets, Clouds parting) the Holy Processes have not been followed!

Heraclitusstudent says

It would be great if that works. There is a scientific process and you have to wait for the answer, and in the meantime acknowledge the signs that it is not working as much as the signs it is working.

You are stating 100% logical fact. A 60 person 100% success rate does at least imply a much lower critical condition and mortality rate though, no?

Thank god Trump passed right to try executive order. I'd try this drug cocktail if in critical condition. If in NV, would that be allowed? (I'm supposed to move to LV in 6 days)

This isn't a MEME, it's as truthful as it gets

Patrick says

the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM)

Probably the most politicized medical source ever

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/world/2020/03/25/covid-19-bahrain-one-of-the-first-in-the-world-to-use-hydroxychloroquine-for-treatment

The Kingdom of Bahrain is one of the first in the world to administer hydroxychloroquine to treat active Covid-19 cases, says the country's Supreme Council of Health chairman Lieutenant-General Dr Shaikh Mohamed Abdullah Al Khalifa.

The Bahrain News Agency (BNA) quoted Dr Shaikh Mohamed, who is also the National Taskforce for Combating Covid-19 head, as revealing the information on Tuesday (March 24).

According to the news report, the drug is reported to have had a profound impact when used to treat the symptoms exhibited by active Covid-19 cases.

Bahrain first used the drug on Feb 26, following the registration of its first Covid-19 case on Feb 24.

Dr Shaikh Mohamed said the compound was administered in line with treatment regimens that have seen success in China and South Korea.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41565-020-0674-9

Chloroquine — an approved malaria drug — is known in nanomedicine research for the investigation of nanoparticle uptake in cells, and may have potential for the treatment of COVID-19.

Recent multicentre clinical trials1 and cell culture studies2 suggest that the 70-year-old malaria drug, chloroquine, may potentially display therapeutic efficacy against COVID-19 (corona virus disease 2019), a rapidly spreading viral infection that can cause pneumonia-induced death in approximately 2.5% of infected individuals1,3. Based on the preliminary clinical trial findings, chloroquine has been included in federal guidelines for treatment of COVID-19 in the People’s Republic of China. ...

There is cautious optimism that (hydroxy)chloroquine may have prophylactic and/or therapeutic effects against COVID-19, and understanding the mechanisms by which these drugs affect SARS-CoV-2 would be critical for optimizing and developing preventative and therapeutic strategies.

We should start referring to hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin as #TrumpPills, as Scott Adams is doing over at https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays

Heraclitusstudent says

You guys are looking at this with Trump colored glasses and clinging to any ray of hope like oysters to a rock.

I thought Obama was "hope and change"? Now hope = trump colored glasses.

I do not understand this criticism of Trump's hope and leadership. Seems to be TDS

Patrick says

We should start referring to hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin as #TrumpPills, as Scott Adams is doing over at https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays

Listening to him makes me proud I didn't give that Obamacare con job a single dime of mine.

So countries with lot of malaria , usually near equator are suffering less from corona.

Saw couple of map that showed that

CBOEtrader says

I thought Obama was "hope and change"? Now hope = trump colored glasses.

No, I just mentioned facts and I was immediately accused of posting useless anecdotes. This is not a neutral view of the information.
Patrick's screenshots of tweets are certainly even less relevant to estimate the usefulness of this drug.

Can anyone post a story about someone who took the Trump Pill and died?
NO! Because it has 100% effective rate.

No Drug ever approved by the FDA has that.

12 experts question everything about the handling of COVID19

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/12-experts-question-covid-19-panic