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Chiromancer says

but it's an opinion formulated by listening , watching, reading and thinking

Sources? I clearly state we know nothing, including you or myself.

Chiromancer says

But you seem great at critiquing my criticism of Trumps understanding and abilities without presenting a scintilla of evidence to the contrary.

WookieMan says

I get the skepticism and it may bear out to be warranted after WMD and Bush II, but you or I simply don't know.

You're making baseless claims about POTUS. I don't care that you trash Trump. I care that the claims are baseless. You, me or anyone has no clue what intelligence is out there. You can't judge any of this. I'd say the same with Obama, so this isn't a POTUS thing. People gotta stop acting like Trump or any POTUS is 100% making EVERY decision. It's a joke.

As I've said with other users, just say you hate Trump and we can move on with the conversation.

WookieMan says

As I've said with other users, just say you hate Trump and we can move on with the conversation.

Nope I dont hate him. i dont know the man personally. I do think, from the performance to date, he and his administration are woefully unprepared and incompetant.to deal with foreign affairs and crisis such as we now find ourselves in. And that you cannot believe, without verification, anything they say.

So what did you think of what Rand Paul said? I think he probably has it about right though no one can tell how this mess will play out.

Chiromancer says

WookieMan says

As I've said with other users, just say you hate Trump and we can move on with the conversation.

Nope I dont hate him. i dont know the man personally. I do think, from the performance to date, he and his administration are woefully unprepared and incompetant.to deal with foreign affairs and crisis such as we now find ourselves in. And that you cannot believe, without verification, anything they say.

So what did you think of what Rand Paul said? I think he probably has it about right though no one can tell how this mess will play out.

Rand Paul is prob right but so is Wookie. People blow this totally out of proportion because TDS. It's not always the prezs decision. Generals def have some leeway and can strike without the prez if they deem the situation necessitates it. This will be forgotten soon. TDS is here to stay, they'll latch onto something new.

I remain considering that this was done with some form of covert Iranian cooperation. Salami Baloney was committed to perpetual war because that's the way he liked it. Progressive Iranians, and young Iranians in particular, don't like the combination of religion dominated state government and war goading from what I can gather and would much rather have a peaceful, prosperous secular state.

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mell says

Rand Paul is prob right but so is Wookie. People blow this totally out of proportion because TDS. It's not always the prezs decision. Generals def have some leeway and can strike without the prez if they deem the situati

What it boils down to is that no critique of Trump is tolerated. If Paul is probably right the only way to square that is that the Generals ordered the hit. No fucking way that happened. Yeah, I wasn't there but no General in their right mind would do this without Presidential authorization.

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Imminent? It was in fucking progress.

Which President designated Suleimani a Terrorist?

And then took him off the list as part of his Iran Deal?



https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/11741235/Obamas-Iran-deal-has-just-granted-an-amnesty-to-the-worlds-leading-terrorist-mastermind.html?fbclid=IwAR0N-bgfEbBSAZYhOWgQ2xYtlCZAUF2Bm6zrb6QL0US8VVOyRzF7wpg4kEg

https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-call-for-flags-to-be-flown-half-mast-to-grieve-death-of-soleimani

Democrats Call For Flags To Be Flown At Half-Mast To Grieve Death Of Soleimani

Flags were spotted flying at half-mast around the country, notably at The Washington Post, The New York Times, and in front of several celebrities' homes. The celebrities went out and bought an American flag for the first time just to fly it at half-mast for this important time of grief.

"The grieving process is painful but necessary," said Rep. Ilhan Omar. "As a nation, we need to stop and grieve this great, austere, revered religious scholar. He was one of the good ones."

In a rare moment of unity with The Squad, Pelosi gave each of the girls a hug, telling them to just "let it all out" in their time of sadness.

Ocasio-Cortez didn't seem to know what was happening but adjusted her glasses to look smart.

A teary-eyed Barack Obama was also seen solemnly lowering the flag in front of his seaside mansion. "To think, this all could have been prevented with a few pallets of cash."

https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-stampede-soleimani-dead-injured-kerman-mourners

Soleimani funeral stampede in Iran leaves at least 56 dead, state TV reports

At least 56 Iranians were crushed to death Tuesday in a stampede that erupted during the funeral for Qassem Soleimani, the general killed last week in a U.S. airstrike, the country’s state media is reporting.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-reporter-the-babylon-bee

A CNN reporter sounded the alarm on Sunday over the popularity of a piece published by a conservative satirical site.

Last week, The Babylon Bee drew some laughs with an article poking fun at the Democrats' reaction to the U.S. airstrike that led to the death of Irani Gen. Qassem Soleimani, using the headline "Democrats Call For Flags To Be Flown At Half-Mast to Grieve Death of Soleimani."

Responding to a Twitter user who expressed concern that "Republican friends" on Facebook "are circulating it like it's legit," CNN reporter Donie O'Sullivan pointed out that The Babylon Bee was getting more traffic on that one article than his network and The New York Times get weekly.

"To put this in perspective, this is the same number of engagements the top NY Times and CNN stories on Facebook had over the past week," O'Sullivan wrote. "A lot of people sharing this 'satirical' story

https://babylonbee.com/news/iran-announces-they-will-stop-pretending-to-follow-nuclear-deal

Iran Announces They Will Stop Pretending To Follow Nuclear Deal

Did Mossad stop assassinating their nuclear scientists? "Hey, guess what, you're our new nuclear expert! Get ye to the Centrifuges!" "What happened to the last nuclear expert?" "Don't ask, and congratulations on your promotion!"

Phone rings at American embassy somewhere in the Middle East: "I need asylum and I have Iranian secrets!"

Hmm, where did Salami Baloney keep all those terrorist seeding mega-bucks? Maybe the Clinton Foundation? Or did Obama just give him an American Treasury Unlimited Platinum Credit Card?

How long will the loyalties lasts if the money stream dries up?

Iranian Bombs Miss Everyone, Liberals Hardest Hit

https://dailycaller.com/2020/01/08/iranian-bombs-miss-everyone-liberals-hardest-hit/

It's a big club, and Iran ain't in it.