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Would it be ok with you if ICE detained your wife for several hours because she didn't have her papers?
And if your wife got detained because she couldn't provide her papers?
l. I imagine Ice would have caught her by now and sent her home.
It would have probably been an Ice official under Obama, he's the bastard that started this shit.
And after paying $19K to get your wife legal, how pissed off would you be if she got detained? Say some unfortunate turn of events plays out, after she obtained citizenship. Her purse gets stolen or wherever she keeps her papers on her person gets stolen, then ICE happens to ask her, " show me your papers". How pissed would you be that they violated your wife's 4th amendment Rights? Or did you not think about that when you wrote the OP?
"And on the other side of the country, they were an undocumented father and son riding a Greyhound from Seattle to Montana when agents came aboard and asked, "Are you illegal?" "Do you have your documents?" The son, a DACA recipient traveling without his papers, was held for a few hours. The father was sent to a detention center."
@TPB
Sounds like the 4th Reich to me. "Show me your papers."
Would it be ok with you if ICE detained your wife for several hours because she didn't have her papers?
RafiMaas says"And on the other side of the country, they were an undocumented father and son riding a Greyhound from Seattle to Montana when agents came aboard and asked, "Are you illegal?" "Do you have your documents?" The son, a DACA recipient traveling without his papers, was held for a few hours. The father was sent to a detention center."
@TPB
Sounds like the 4th Reich to me. "Show me your papers."
Would it be ok with you if ICE detained your wife for several hours because she didn't have her papers?
You keep saying “papers” over and over again because it helps you propagandize your beliefs.
Maybe you can explain how in practice this is different from law enforcement asking for a drivers license, a practice every officer in the field does many times each day?
I'll show my DL as soon as ICE produces a hot enough chick to suck my dick.
I believe in FREE! trade.
CovfefeButDeadly saysRafiMaas says"And on the other side of the country, they were an undocumented father and son riding a Greyhound from Seattle to Montana when agents came aboard and asked, "Are you illegal?" "Do you have your documents?" The son, a DACA recipient traveling without his papers, was held for a few hours. The father was sent to a detention center."
@TPB
Sounds like the 4th Reich to me. "Show me your papers."
Would it be ok with you if ICE detained your wife for several hours because she didn't have her papers?
You keep saying “papers” over and over again because it helps you propagandize your beliefs.
Maybe you can explain how in practice this is different from law enforcement asking for a drivers license, a practice every officer in the field does many times each day?
If true as stated, then what point does RafiMass have?
Everyone can simply decline to show, negating the comparison to Nazi Era Germany.
what point does RafiMass have?
Pretty simple, it's when you are being asked when not operating a motor vehicle. Sure, they start with a check point 100 miles from boarder, then they ask on buses and trains. Pretty soon they stop you where ever they want. Show Me your papers.
@TPB
Sounds like the 4th Reich to me. "Show me your papers."
Would it be ok with you if ICE detained your wife for several hours because she didn't have her papers?
lostand confused saysLiberlas , liberlas asking someone to show they are ehre legally
So asking you to give up your 2nd amendment right is ok now?
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-citizens-ice-20180427-htmlstory.html
'Victims include a landscaper snatched in a Home Depot parking lot in Rialto and held for days despite his son’s attempts to show agents the man’s U.S. passport; a New York resident locked up for more than three years fighting deportation efforts after a federal agent mistook his father for someone who wasn’t a U.S. citizen; and a Rhode Island housekeeper mistakenly targeted twice, resulting in her spending a night in prison the second time even though her husband had brought her U.S. passport to a court hearing.'
Hassan_Rouhani saysRafiMaas says.lostand confused saysLiberlas , liberlas asking someone to show they are ehre legally
So asking you to give up your 2nd amendment right is ok now?
First amendment protects all kind of speech. Including some pretty stupid stuff.
Yeah, I Know, right? Some people just don't know they have a 4th amendment.
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