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let's talk about something that would literally require us to live like cavemen to solve... not happening.
Who still wants to argue that co2 warms the planet and it's not the sun?
Onvacation saysWho still wants to argue that co2 warms the planet and it's not the sun?
This statement shows you don't know what you are talking about. Nobody has ever argued that the sun does not provide the heat to warm the planet. If you thought that was what people are saying then it shows you don't listen to what they are saying.
Unless you are a scientist I think we really shouldn't listen to what you and sniper have to say because all you're doing is parroting back what others say. Your fight is so fierce it's seems you might even be paid to do this.
Direct measures providing INCONTROVERTIBLE proofs that the CO2 warms the planet and not the sun:
This statement shows you don't know what you are talking about. Nobody has ever argued that the sun does not provide the heat to warm the planet.
Unless you are a scientist I think we really shouldn't listen to what you and sniper have to say
winter temperatures increasing more than summer temperatures. The opposite would be true if the sun was responsible.
etc, etc...
Nobody has ever argued that the sun does not provide the heat to warm the planet.
Direct measures providing INCONTROVERTIBLE proofs that the CO2 warms the planet and not the sun:
@Patrick - Can we just ban climate change threads? Even if the science is 100% true, there's nothing we're doing or can do to stop it. So we get these stupid back and forth arguments that don't matter if you think about it.
Why do we need an artist redition of the sun? That's not even a real image of the sun.
Actually it is, but there are more here:
On this page you will find the latest solar imagery
Those that understand can explain it to those that don't.
Remove greenhouse gasses & let's see how warm the planet stays with just sunlight.
When these hydrocarbons are burned, they are putting back into the air carbon dioxide and water vapor taken from the air long ago.
Since water vapor is more of a greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide, why do we only hear of a "carbon footprint" and not a "hydro footprint?"
HEYYOU saysThose that understand can explain it to those that don't.
Sure. I can explain it to you.
Greenhouse gasses, mostly water vapor, traps the heat from the sun and stops the earth from becoming an icy ball in space. After the temp rising slightly over the last century we are now going into a solar minimum where there will not be as much solar heat to warm our world.
If we are lucky the cooling will be minimal.
HeadSet saysWhen these hydrocarbons are burned, they are putting back into the air carbon dioxide and water vapor taken from the air long ago.
Hmmm, just completing a cycle.
Why haven't any of the "Alarmists" chimed in on these facts with their rebuttals?
don’t know what the solar minimum is.
anon_6ae12 saysdon’t know what the solar minimum is.
Solar minimum is the period of least solar activity in the 11 year solar cycle of the sun. During this time, sunspot and solar flare activity diminishes, and often does not occur for days at a time. This causes the sun to radiate less heat.
So what do YOU think the solar minimum is?
Solar minimum is the period of least solar activity in the 11 year solar cycle of the sun. During this time, sunspot and solar flare activity diminishes, and often does not occur for days at a time. This causes the sun to radiate less heat.
So what do YOU think the solar minimum is?
That's exactly what it is and it blows away any "man-made" warming, eventually leading to a mini ice-age. You don't want that.
Direct measures providing INCONTROVERTIBLE proofs that the CO2 warms the planet and not the sun:
1 - out bound earth radiations measured by satellites since 70s diminishing in spectrum absorbed by CO2
2 - low atmosphere temperatures increasing more than high elevation temperatures. The opposite would be true if the sun was responsible.
3 - night temperatures increasing more than day temperatures. The opposite would be true if the sun was responsible. Well sorry greenhouse effect works at night too.
4 - polar temperatures increasing more than tropic temperatures. The opposite would be true if the sun was responsible.
5 - winter temperatures increasing more than summer temperatures. The opposite would be true if the sun was responsible.
etc, etc...
As many educated Pat netters know, (complete) burning a hydrocarbon releases 2 major green house gases - carbon dioxide and water vapor.
HeadSet saysAs many educated Pat netters know, (complete) burning a hydrocarbon releases 2 major green house gases - carbon dioxide and water vapor.
Except no, there is no water vapor released when burning gas.
the "feedbacks" are amplifying the effects of the initial radiative forcing from CO2 alone.
The cave in Ireland that once a year, the sun shines through perfectly at the exact same time every year.
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