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CIC is just upset because the law of the land now allows men to marry each other, but he still can't marry goats. And CIC had already picked out a wedding dress. Oh no, her dress matches his!

He was so looking forward to removing that garter.

Dan8267 says

CIC is just upset because the law of the land now allows men to marry each other, but he still can't marry goats. And CIC had already picked out a wedding dress. Oh no, her dress matches his!

He was so looking forward to removing that garter.

Wasn't this a subject of a Woody Allen movie from yesteryear ...www.youtube.com/embed/ZbMa7BpPsNc

Damn, it's like a documentary of CIC's life.

Dan8267 says

Damn, it's like a documentary of CIC's life.

Well then, don't watch the full movie, you may die laughing!

Ironman says

I have multiple decades on the planet and know tons of married couples. If I had to take an educated guess, the approximate divorce rate of everyone I've run into is maybe 20%. In the majority of them, it was real easy to spot the reason for the divorce, as the couple weren't compatible from the get go. Maybe the "physical" part of the relationship was more important than the "mental" part

That depends. not sure your age. people I know who are in their 50s and 60s fit into your category.
I am younger and my generation-many are sharing my views. I am really surprised at the number of women I work with who tell me never to get married. Nowadays a lot of women are very successful and earn a ton of money and they are facing the same issues of lazy spouses who don't work.

I am mixed -my parents have a very great marriage and in a couple of years would hit the half century marriage mark-which in this day and age is a miracle. They really love each other at this age and nowadays can't spend more than a day apart-especially dear old dad! He can cook and clean etc-but just misses her company. I do know a few couples like that-got past trying to change the other, know the buttons which not to push and have a lifetime of shared experience -it is really beautiful.

Perhaps in the old days, divorce was frowned upon and so couples made lot more effort to adjust and family was in your business and so tempered people and helped ride out rough spots. now the gubmnt supports everyone and so an extended family is not needed .

yes serial divorcees and such like Liz Taylor or the kardashians are a reality-but me thinks if the laws are changed where people who game the system don't benefit-then a big chunk will go away.

lostand confused says

I am mixed -my parents have a very great marriage and in a couple of years would hit the half century marriage mark-which in this day and age is a miracle

My parent never divorced but today, they barely speak to each other.

Being members of that ancient generation, they don't want to be seen as *divorced* publicly, so the best way to deal with life is to live in separate bedrooms and do things, independent of one another. In other words, they're housemates but with little in common.

Rin says

My parent never divorced but today, they barely speak to each other.

Being members of that ancient generation, they don't want to be seen as *divorced* publicly, so the best way to deal with life is to live in separate bedrooms and do things, independent of one another. In other words, they're housemates but with little in common.

Yeah,it depends. I went through that phase when I was younger of banging chicks and partying. Through it now-it took a while and am settling down now. But I was ready to settle down, wanted kids and so looked for that. One of the criteria I had was that she had money-not for me-so she would not be dependent on me and had the confidence to stand on her own. I was lucky to find that and someone whose company I enjoy too. That makes a difference to have someone you enjoy being with and who enjoys being with you and you don't have to pay for it !!!!! Plus if things ever go sour, she has her own money and actually wants to be independent-so no fear. But if I settled down early in life then my choice would have been different and in some states you owe alimony for life after as little as 10 years together-so if married someone ar 19 and divorced at 29-you can be on the hook till you or she dies.

but even she wants the laws changes-as do quite a lot of successful women I know.

Rin,

I'm not making a judgement on the path you chose for yourself. Prostitution can be one of the most honest and transparent transactions in the marketplace. (as long as the hookers aren't coerced into it, which happens a lot).
But not should you assume that all folks in committed monogamous relationships (including same gender couples) are miserable, dishonest, foolish or whatever. Half or so of such folks are just motivated by and act on a different set of values than yours..
Kinda like our friend the Strategist, who cannot fathom that there's more to Life in America than the Bay Area House Equity. That value system imported from the crowded cities of Asia is just different than Joshuatrio's which is more centered on Quality of Life.
Us Monogomous Folks are happy for you that you've mapped out a life that works for your values that doesn't bring harm to others (unlike those immigrants in San Bernardino).
I know, some Smarty-Pants here are Telling You You're Wrong for your Choice.
I'm not telling you that. It's your life. But I am Calling B*llsh*t on you telling how you have figured out the values and motivations of others who value different things than you do.

B.A.C.A.H. says

Rin,

I'm not making a judgement on the path you chose for yourself. Prostitution can be one of the most honest and transparent transactions in the marketplace. (as long as the hookers aren't coerced into it, which happens a lot).

But not should you assume that all folks in committed monogamous relationships (including same gender couples) are miserable, dishonest, foolish or whatever. Half or so of such folks are just motivated by and act on a different set of values than yours..
Kinda like our friend the Strategist, who cannot fathom that there's more to Life in America than the Bay Area House Equity. That value system imported from the crowded cities of Asia is just different than Joshuatrio's which is more centered on Quality of Life.
Us Monogomous Folks are happy for you that you've mapped out a life that works for your values that doesn't bring harm to others (unlike those immigrants in San Bernardino).
I know, some Smarty-Pants here are Telling You You're Wrong for your Choice.
I'm not telling you that. It's your life. But I am Calling B*llsh*t on you telling how you have figured out the values and motivations of others who value different things than you do.

If you're sincere in everything you'd said above then great! You're one of the few posterers, who despite having a different world view than my own, isn't pushing society's agenda onto ppl like myself. For that, thank you.

As for Ironman, CIC, or whomever, go to hell.

Ironman says

Well, that settles it. You got 4 (actually 3, because Dan is all about animals, not humans), to chime into the thread. Want to remind us how many members Patnet has?

Yep, that's a consensus!! Carry on!

Of course, the fact that 16 have you blocked, has nothing to do with it, vs a handful for me.

And what's even more pathetic is how you feel the need to tell a grown man, how to live his sex life. My, you're now the grandparent for everyone on this forum.

Rin says

Plus, last I'd checked, 5 have ignored me whereas it's 16 for you

I wouldn't go by that. Ignores say more about the people using them then the people their used on.

In fact, if I could, I'd force a lot of people on this site to have be on ignore.

But yes, CIC only gets the idiot vote. He's like the Donald Trump of PatNet. In fact, he's so batshit stupid he'll take that as a compliment.

Dan8267 says

He's like the Donald Trump of PatNet.

Not really, Donald Trump is possibly the most entertaining wannabe politician of all time.

In contrast, the likes of a CIC or an Ironman (assuming that these are alter egos) is at best, a failed abortion.

Different strokes for different folks. I think the key is that one does what one wishes to do with one's life, but based on a pure understanding of the world and your own inner motives. There are a lot of people in sorry marriages that don't even realize it. Vice versa, there's plenty that party their life away to avoid whatever lack or pain they have. As long as we are banging and boozing for the pure fun of it and without any delusions, then carry on!

We all know the real reason CIC chickenshit out of stopping by Georgie's to meet up.

Rin says

Ironman says

Well, that settles it. You got 4 (actually 3, because Dan is all about animals, not humans), to chime into the thread. Want to remind us how many members Patnet has?

Yep, that's a consensus!! Carry on!

Oh forgot epitaph, that makes '5'. I sure I'll be able to get more over time. How about you Mr Starks?

Marriage is a wonderful thing. Unfortunately, there are damn few people today who are marriage material. The past half century has seen society change from one where long-term relationships were considered the only path to happiness and prosperity to one where both men and women primarily follow short-term mating strategies and treat relationships as disposable like any other "product" or "service". This is not a value judgement, just a cold, hard fact. Whether you like the old system, the new system, or want something completely different, ignoring the reality of today's mating market is simply foolish.

I'd marry Taylor Swift in a second, even if she wasn't rich and talented, but there are damn few women of that quality. There are probably damn few men of that quality as well, but I don't have the stats on that. If you're going to commit for life to a person, that person has to be trustworthy, and the unfortunate fact is that a society so geared towards short-term relationships simply doesn't produce adults who make for good lifetime partners. There are trade-offs between short-term and long-term strategies. No matter which your values prefer, those trade-offs are real and unavoidable.

At this point in my life, it would take an extraordinary woman to convince me that the benefits of marriage in my life outweigh the risks and costs, especially in America where the family court system treats men like American courts used to treat slaves. Gay marriage did not kill traditional marriage; the family court system and no-fault divorce did.

Ironman says

Your butt buddy Dan has 12, where does that rate him?

Your wife rated me a 12 as well. One for each inch I placed inside her.

Rin says

it's 16 for you. Sure, your worldview is doing really well on this forum.

On this forum I think that's a good sign. What do you have to do to get ignored?

Ironman says

to have an adult discussion.

As in telling other adults, how to run their sex lives, by the value system of mainstream America? Sorry, but I've got better things to do than to waste my time with some Puritans.

If you want to start a church or some free form religious organization, feel free. Just don't send me an invite.

A woman doesn't consider it commitment unless you are willing to be stripped and flayed by legal predators. What kind of psychopathic shit is that?

Ceffer says

A woman doesn't consider it commitment unless you are willing to be stripped and flayed by legal predators. What kind of psychopathic shit is that?

Ceffer, we need to meet up in Amsterdam and party it up.

This Yankee-based forum is getting old, with its stupid Femi-nazi/Puritanical motions.