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CA-if a woman smiles, enjoys sex with you-you still raped her


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2014 Aug 28, 11:16pm   38,210 views  119 comments

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http://news.yahoo.com/california-passes-yes-means-yes-campus-sexual-assault-092512755.html

A new standard for investigating sexual violence on campuses is headed for a final vote in California. CBS News legal analyst Rikki Klieman sits down with the "CBS This Morning" co-hosts to discuss what "yes means yes" really means.

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71   MisdemeanorRebel   2014 Aug 30, 3:13am  

rooemoore says

You do realize that the number of woman falsely accusing people is about a hundred times smaller than the number being sexually assaulted? And yet you act like the really problem is the number that are falsely accused.

Actually, I don't respect that 2-8% number, because false accusers seldom face charges and they're all ass-pull guesstimates. The definition for false was overly strict, according to that very report:

The determination that a report is false can then only be made when there is sufficient evidence to establish that the sexual assault did not happen (was not completed or attempted.) This does not mean that the investigation failed to prove that the sexual assault happened–in that case the investigation would simply be inconclusive or unsubstantiated.


http://www.ndaa.org/pdf/the_voice_vol_3_no_1_2009.pdf

So in other words, that 2-8% was only when investigators had enough evidence that disproved the females' claims - could prove a negative, but not when there was doubt or insufficient evidence as to the claim.

Since there are seldom witnesses, video cameras, etc. of the alleged rape, there will seldom be sufficient evidence disproving the rape. Proving a negative based solely on he-said-she-said is difficult. So the numbers of false accusations are almost certainly higher.

72   Rin   2014 Aug 30, 5:09am  

thunderlips11 says

Proving a negative based solely on he-said-she-said is difficult. So the numbers of false accusations are almost certainly higher.

Your honor, I have not bo*nked in America, for years.

73   justme   2014 Aug 30, 5:52am  

The law is being marketed as the "yes-means-yes" law. I think it really is a "yes-means-no, as you may find out later" law.

74   justme   2014 Oct 2, 6:33am  

Governor Jerry Brown has signed SB 967 into law. Yes-means-No is now the law.

Expect a flood of civil rights lawsuits to commence in the next year.

http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/Affirmed-consent-bill-signed-by-Brown-5787198.php

75   Ceffer   2014 Oct 2, 6:40am  

justme says

Governor Jerry Brown has signed SB 967 into law. Yes-means-no is now the law.

Expect a flood of civil rights lawsuits to commence in the next year.

http://www.sfgate.com/default/article/Affirmed-consent-bill-signed-by-Brown-5787198.php

Otherwise known as the "Immense Hirsute Lesbian Law".

Now, there will be roving bands of lesbians on all campuses with amputated penises dangling from their belts and necklaces.

76   Vicente   2014 Oct 2, 6:51am  

Chastity pledges, Bible Studies, and weemins keeping their knees together until there is a ring on their finger, means this will never a problem in court.

77   lostand confused   2014 Oct 2, 11:26am  

These laws are just nuts. So what's next, ugly woman demand equality and men who refuse to sleep with them be thrown in jail???

If you sleep with woman 1 and refuse to sleep with woman 2-can you be thrown in jail-I am pretty sure the hirsute ugly feminazis will demand this to be made into law .

Will it be a crime for wanting to sleep with her and not with number 2 below her??

78   zzyzzx   2014 Oct 2, 11:38am  

Strategist says

Don't hesitate to count us in. We love porn.

Obligatory:

79   Strategist   2014 Oct 2, 2:00pm  

lostand confused says

These laws are just nuts. So what's next, ugly woman demand equality and men who refuse to sleep with them be thrown in jail???

If you sleep with woman 1 and refuse to sleep with woman 2-can you be thrown in jail-I am pretty sure the hirsute ugly feminazis will demand this to be made into law .

Will it be a crime for wanting to sleep with her and not with number 2 below her??

I think you will be right. If you refuse to get turned on by the beauty on the bottom you will get sued for discrimination. A day may come when you will be charged with discrimination for marrying someone in your own race.

80   Rin   2014 Oct 2, 10:39pm  

Strategist says

If you refuse to get turned on by the beauty on the bottom you will get sued for discrimination.

In other words, my current lifestyle of bo*nking esc*rts, outside of the USA, is simply ahead of its time. Soon, many men will want an escape from this horseshit.

Fellas, it's time to invest in a RealDoll for your home. I believe it'll pay dividends, once you factor out the blown dates and lawsuits in the years ahead.

And once a year, since that's all the time many will get, plan a trip to the Philippines and bo*nk hoes over there for 2 weeks straight. Come back home and get back to your work.

81   Y   2014 Oct 2, 10:42pm  

what if....uh...one is turned on...uh...by the one on the bottom?

Strategist says

I think you will be right. If you refuse to get turned on by the beauty on the bottom you will get sued for discrimination.

82   Dan8267   2014 Oct 2, 11:24pm  

lostand confused says

OMG, Teletubbies are real!

83   John Bailo   2014 Oct 2, 11:42pm  

The law is simple.

NO means NO.
YES means YES.
MAYBE means...what kind of car do you drive?

84   Rin   2014 Oct 3, 12:10am  

Reference thread:

http://patrick.net/?p=1249432

The thing is that false rape charges, remember Kobe Bryant at the hotel in Colorado, now ten years ago, tend to be scandalous and have been known to hurt ppl's business and reputation.

The moment that incident had occurred, everyone around me automatically assumed that Kobe was guilty but I saw that it was BS. And of course, she immediately calmed up, after getting a million out of the deal. How convenient. That's not a person looking for justice and a public apology but a scam artist.

Kobe had lost his Coca-Cola, McDonald, & Nutella deals, as a result of a false rape charge. That was worth more than his NBA salary.

He'd also bought Vanessa, his wife, a $4M ring to calm her down.

85   Tenpoundbass   2014 Oct 3, 12:19am  

Note to self, never fuck a bitch from California.

86   Rin   2014 Oct 3, 12:26am  

CaptainShuddup says

Note to self, never fuck a bitch from California.

Kobe Bryant was in Colorado, so you can add much of the continental USA to that list.

87   Ceffer   2014 Oct 3, 2:38am  

The "Immense Hirsute Lesbian" law dictates that a man who gazes at a woman for more than a split second on campus is kept in stocks on the main quad with a dildo protruding from his ass for two days for the first offense, and has to pay said woman a fine of not less than $200 for treating her as a prostitute.

88   Ceffer   2014 Oct 3, 2:57am  

My new California motto: "Boner with Honor!"

89   Peter P   2014 Oct 3, 3:00am  

These women need "feminism" because they are weak. They cry uncle at the first sight of perceived adversity. Oh, I forgot, they can't even cry uncle because he could be "eye raping" them.

Strong women (e.g. Cleopatra) in history used seduction to gain power. Strength comes from introspection and self-awareness, not policy.

90   Peter P   2014 Oct 3, 3:05am  

Any person who notices an erection on a fully-clothed man is DEFINITELY guilty of eye-raping.

91   Peter P   2014 Oct 3, 3:26am  

There is still hope. 50 Shades of Grey is a big hit among women.

Deep down, they all want some time in the Red Room of Pain. Who doesn't? ;-)

92   Rin   2014 Oct 3, 3:39am  

Peter P says

50 Shades of Grey

I believe that any contract, like BSDM, which means sex for hire, is illegal in America.

Thus, the characters of the book can be criminally charged, if let's say someone informs the police. If this were Australia, it wouldn't be a problem at all, as there are clubs, which cater to fantasies, including BSDM with 'safe words'.

93   just_passing_through   2014 Oct 3, 3:57am  

justme says

Governor Jerry Brown has signed SB 967 into law.

Yet another reason I'm just passing through.

94   Peter P   2014 Oct 3, 4:00am  

Rin says

I believe that any contract, like BSDM, which means sex for hire, is illegal in America.

Hopefully the popularity of the book amongst women can effect changes. Perhaps true feminists will finally realize that sex is power and sex is business.

One way to remove ambiguity between rape and willful sex is to mandate that money changes hands.

95   Rin   2014 Oct 3, 4:08am  

Peter P says

willful sex is to mandate that money changes hands.

Here's the problem, the current generation of Femi-Nazis want their cake and eat it as well. What that means is that they don't want to allow a transaction model, as then, there will actually be services associated with a resource unit of time/money.

If you recall a few years ago, a gal joined a dating site, so that men would pay for her dinners. She was able to save a lot of money, by seeing a different guy, every night. She wasn't at all interested in them but being the losers men are in this society, they all agreed to wine/dine this pretender. The end result was she never called for a 2nd date and moved onto the next guy. There was no sex in any of those situations. It was a pure welfare play.

96   Peter P   2014 Oct 3, 4:14am  

Rin says

If you recall a few years ago, a gal joined a dating site, so that men would pay for her dinners.

The dating game is like the 3-card monte. :-)

If you deliberately try to play, you will lose.

97   Rin   2014 Oct 3, 4:18am  

Peter P says

Rin says

If you recall a few years ago, a gal joined a dating site, so that men would pay for her dinners.

The dating game is like the 3-card monte. :-)

If you deliberately try to play, you will lose.

Yup, my time is money and thus, I don't play. I like more targeted experiences, like Montreal esc*rts.

98   justme   2014 Oct 3, 4:41am  

lostand confused says

So what's next, ugly woman demand equality and men who refuse to sleep with them be thrown in jail???

Life imitates LostAndConfused:

The University of Michigan indeed says that withholding sex is sexual violence

http://hr.umich.edu/stopabuse/resources/definitions.html

"withholding sex and affection; always demanding sex;"

Let me guess: The first one is deemed sexual violence if a man does it. Oh wait, both of them are sexual violence ONLY if a man does them. Women cannot be sexually violent, dontcha' know.

99   Peter P   2014 Oct 3, 4:49am  

The going theme of the game is the worship of weakness, whether it is sex or economics.

Sad.

The best way to stop violence against women is to teach them Krav Maga. Everything else is fluff.

100   Dan8267   2014 Oct 3, 5:14am  

Peter P says

50 Shades of Grey is a big hit among women.

If men liked 50 Shades of Grey, they would be pigs. Since women like it, it's empowerment.

101   Peter P   2014 Oct 3, 5:46am  

Dan8267 says

If men liked 50 Shades of Grey, they would be pigs. Since women like it, it's empowerment.

I like the book for the comedy effect. It is such a great self-parody. I guess I am a pig then.

102   Peter P   2014 Oct 3, 5:52am  

Can't wait for the movie. I will be laughing my head off.

103   Vicente   2014 Oct 3, 6:04am  

Peter P says

The best way to stop violence against women is to teach them Krav Maga.

105   drudometkin   2014 Oct 3, 6:40am  

This is only on campus. My only hope is some of these lawmakers have sons that get accused of rape due to this law.

106   Peter P   2014 Oct 3, 6:41am  

drudometkin says

This is only on campus. My only hope is some of these lawmakers have sons that get accused of rape due to this law.

More reasons to skip college.

107   Rin   2014 Oct 3, 7:32am  

Peter P says

drudometkin says

This is only on campus. My only hope is some of these lawmakers have sons that get accused of rape due to this law.

More reasons to skip college.

I'd say, buy your son a RealDoll by the start of puberty.

Then, when he hits 17/18, fly him to the Philippines, Brazil, or Australia and take him to a proper brothel on his 18th birthday. Make sure he has the experience of a lifetime with the best courtesan.

Then, if he wants a US diploma, do a distance learning program while living in a country where seeing hoes is legal. Personally, I'd aim for an on-campus thing at let's say Univ of Toronto/Canada or Univ of London/UK, but that's just me.

108   Peter P   2014 Oct 3, 7:34am  

Rin says

Make sure he has the experience of a lifetime with the best courtesan.

Remember that Firefly episode? I think it's Jaynestown. :-)

109   New Renter   2014 Oct 3, 8:25am  

Rin says

I'd say, buy your son a RealDoll by the start of puberty.

Only if you want to be the one to clean it up.

110   Rin   2014 Oct 3, 8:26am  

Peter P says

Rin says

Make sure he has the experience of a lifetime with the best courtesan.

Remember that Firefly episode? I think it's Jaynestown. :-)

Considering that a hot "companion" was already flying on the Serenidipity, why even leave the ship :-) ?

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