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Youtube Ban Part I; the Brits in India Thread


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2019 Jun 5, 12:39pm   3,549 views  87 comments

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"Today, we're taking another step in our hate speech policy by specifically prohibiting videos alleging that a group is superior in order to justify discrimination, segregation or exclusion based on qualities like age, gender, race, caste, religion, sexual orientation or veteran status."

https://news.yahoo.com/youtube-ban-hateful-supremacist-videos-170733974.html

So if you make a video about veterans deserving superior treatment, that's hateful? Or elderly people?

Of course, I'll be shocked if they don't pull all the Praeger U. videos while leaving up the "Men should be castrated" "Whiteness is Toxic" and "Anti-Termite" videos will remain.

Regulators, mount up!

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17   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Jun 5, 7:55pm  

Back to the original thread.

Crowder's main detractor, at Vox, has, like most Leftists, called for violence and intimidation against Trump Supporters. Very recently, since Vox's multiyear deplatforming campaign.

18   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Jun 5, 8:05pm  

And to think it all started with PewDiePie.
19   indc   2019 Jun 5, 8:11pm  

HonkpilledMaster says
indc says
Indians were forced to pay for railways 3 times what was paid in England. Couldn't build it themselves?


And yet I'll hear the British didn't pay the Indians what they paid Britons...

Why would exploiters want to pay more for a transportation system that's key to exploiting the country?

That's like a diamond mine where the owner wants to overpay 300% for the mine workers or mine shaft drilling, unheard of (unless it's some kind of socialist program and he pays himself out of fake overages).

A few other things:
Modern Medicine that works (not Herbal crap, proven ineffectual when you look at average lifespans and child mortality)
Industrial Production
Idea of Democracy

How many voters were there in the Moghul or Vijayanagar Empire? Did untouchables or farmers get to vote for King Venkata III? How often was the Kingly Election? The Vijayanagar Parliament?


What kind of Stup** are you.Indians had to pay 3$ for same mile to build and use to every 1$ british were paying.

Which country in europe had voting rights in 13,14,15,16, 17 century.

Do you even know when british started arriving in India, why did you share 1500 map.But thanks for the map though.
20   indc   2019 Jun 5, 8:15pm  

d6rB says
indc says
This was practiced in one small section of the country

Not true - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sati_(practice)
Sati was observed within Sikh aristocracy
sati practice continued during the colonial era, particularly in significant numbers in colonial Bengal Presidency (modern Bihar, Jharkhand, West Bengal, Bangladesh and Assam
Jahangir, who succeeded Akbar in the early 17th century, found sati prevalent among the Muslims of Rajaur (Kashmir)


You can see the map shared by Honk. And compare with the places you listed here.
21   indc   2019 Jun 5, 8:27pm  

d6rB says
indc says
And I hate to take proof from wiki which puts lot of restrictions on who corrects them?

They cite quite a few Indian authors in that wiki article.
I would be happy to get some information other than statements "your sources suck" from you, for example links to reputable historic investigations showing that sati was performed in a very small, Muslim-oppressed area of India.


If you want to believe statistician R.J. Rummel. He said at most 80,000 satis that happened. And India's population was 100,000,000 during that period.
That my friend is 0.0008% if you want to understand.
22   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Jun 5, 8:49pm  

Can we have a separate thread for "Brits: Good or Bad for India"?

This thread is about Youtube banning "Anti-Socialist", aka "Hate" Speech.
23   Bd6r   2019 Jun 6, 4:44am  

indc says
If you want to believe statistician R.J. Rummel. He said at most 80,000 satis that happened. And India's population was 100,000,000 during that period.
That my friend is 0.0008% if you want to understand.

1. Link?
2. That is still 80,000 too many, I'd say. I was poking around and saw that last sati was in Rajastan in 1970's.
24   indc   2019 Jun 6, 6:22am  

d6rB says
indc says
If you want to believe statistician R.J. Rummel. He said at most 80,000 satis that happened. And India's population was 100,000,000 during that period.
That my friend is 0.0008% if you want to understand.

1. Link?
2. That is still 80,000 too many, I'd say. I was poking around and saw that last sati was in Rajastan in 1970's.


Link I could not find it. But a famous statistician from India quotes this statistic.
80000 is too many. But most of the cases it was woman's decision to do it. Not like burning witches in the west. If one woman wants to do it you cannot stop her unless the government has wherewithal. I think some woman would rather die than become sex slaves to muslims.
Jainism is another sect where old people who think they have no more use to this society kill themselves by stop breathing. Govt tries to stop them but they still do it.
25   indc   2019 Jun 6, 6:29am  

HonkpilledMaster says
Can we have a separate thread for "Brits: Good or Bad for India"?

This thread is about Youtube banning "Anti-Socialist", aka "Hate" Speech.


You think I am discussing this here to correct some evil that happened in past? No.

I am discussing it here to show that you cannot even acknowledge others point of view but you want others to accept your.
It is usually a closeted racist who comes in defense of other racists.
Pewdiepie is a racist. He lives in UK and he became one just like them. British were calling Indian's names and he too started doing it when we started loosing to a Indian channel.
And yes being racist is not free speech.
26   HeadSet   2019 Jun 6, 6:49am  

I am discussing it here to show that you cannot even acknowledge others point of view but you want others to accept your.

No, you said that people who believe Britain did good things for India were racists. It is not racist, it is a valid point of view supported by facts.
27   Onvacation   2019 Jun 6, 7:27am  

indc says
being racist is not free speech.

Being racist is totally free speech! Ignorant, yes, but still free speech as long as you don't lynch or go jihadi.
28   Bd6r   2019 Jun 6, 7:59am  

HeadSet says
It is not racist, it is a valid point of view supported by facts.

Even if it would not be supported by (many) facts, it would still not necessarily be racist.
29   indc   2019 Jun 6, 10:05am  

HeadSet says
I am discussing it here to show that you cannot even acknowledge others point of view but you want others to accept your.

No, you said that people who believe Britain did good things for India were racists. It is not racist, it is a valid point of view supported by facts.


I think "beliefs" cannot be governed by rules applied to speech. So you can believe what ever you want.
But if you are expressing the said beliefs which might affect whole section of people I think I am within my rights to call them that.
If someone uses the Goebbels logic I think its my right to call them on that.
30   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Jun 6, 11:03am  

indc says
Pewdiepie is a racist. He lives in UK and he became one just like them. British were calling Indian's names and he too started doing it when we started loosing to a Indian channel.


There's no comparison between the UK and India. India is the most racist country in the world, survey after survey shows.
http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/most-racist-countries/

As President Mandela's Indian Bodyguard Sam Prakash agrees with African-American tourists and studenst, Indians are the most Racist towards blacks.
https://citizen.co.za/news/south-africa/2015127/watch-indians-are-the-most-racist-in-the-world-says-mandelas-former-bodyguard/
https://gulfnews.com/world/asia/india/the-dark-face-of-indian-racism-1.61161168
https://homegrown.co.in/article/51888/an-african-american-on-why-he-thinks-india-is-the-most-racist-country

The US/UK does not have huge race riots involving hundreds of people dying that last for days every few years, unlike India.

Indians indicate more than anybody else that they prefer only to live near people like them. It's almost inverse to UK/US preferences. Given the proximity of Muslims, I understand this mentality.

While held up as a model of diversity, Leftists don't want people to actually know that Indians have major Class, Ethnic, and Religious battles on a regular basis.
31   indc   2019 Jun 6, 11:58am  

do you even know what racism means?

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
32   socal2   2019 Jun 6, 12:28pm  

indc says
do you even know what racism means?

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.


It is not racist to believe one's CULTURE and governing systems are superior to others.

I am sure India thinks their culture is superior to Pakistan's - right?
33   indc   2019 Jun 6, 1:37pm  

socal2 says
indc says
do you even know what racism means?

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.


It is not racist to believe one's CULTURE and governing systems are superior to others.

I am sure India thinks their culture is superior to Pakistan's - right?


Again believing, one can believe whatever people want. Propagating it is the problem.
You dont even know the situation in India and Pakistan. Even after 70yrs after freedom Indians are taught that pakistani's are better than India. That my friend is what happens to psyche after oppression. People just started recognising that India had better civilization compared to others. Again not culture, civilization. That is the reason indians can easily work in other countries.
its funny you have 2 likes would like to know what they like about your comment.
34   socal2   2019 Jun 6, 1:45pm  

indc says
People just started recognising that India had better civilization compared to others. Again not culture, civilization.


Again you are so hung up on race. Civilization has nothing to do with race - it is about culture.

Definition of civilization
1a : a relatively high level of cultural and technological development
specifically : the stage of cultural development at which writing and the keeping of written records is attained
b : the culture characteristic of a particular time or place
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/civilization
35   indc   2019 Jun 6, 2:15pm  

socal2 says


I did not know culture was important part of civilization. Then Indian civilization is not civilization. Indians didn't give a damn about culture because it is not permanent. Technology and knowledge is what represent's "indian culture" then. India is so vast and ancient that culture changes every 100miles. So there is no "indian culture" per se.
Some might complain that people are loosing their culture but changes keep happening.
36   socal2   2019 Jun 6, 2:36pm  

indc says
I did not know culture was important part of civilization. Then Indian civilization is not civilization. Indians didn't give a damn about culture because it is not permanent. Technology and knowledge is what represent's "indian culture" then. India is so vast and ancient that culture changes every 100miles. So there is no "indian culture" per se.
Some might complain that people are loosing their culture but changes keep happening.


Now you see.

If it was only about race, India would never change. As you point out, Indian culture is more about technology and knowledge these days hence the reason why Indians assimilate well into other countries (at least in America).

I'd argue that Britain had a big impact in changing India's culture by bringing in some modernity. Just like how Britain had a HUGE impact on America's culture.
37   indc   2019 Jun 6, 2:47pm  

socal2 says


You guys dont give up, You think India got all this technological acumen because british ruled it? 5000 yr old civilization and 200yrs of british rule is who gave them all this edge.

And then you say you are not racist?

Indian's were exporting knowledge even before europe was figuring out how to survive. And its funny when you said america got culture from british.
38   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Jun 6, 2:51pm  

indc says
You guys dont give up, You think India got all this technological acumen because british ruled it? 5000 yr old civilization and 200yrs of british rule is who gave them all this edge.


Yes. Products of the Industrial Revolution, and learning how to use them, is entirely British in origin.

India did not have the steam or combustion engines prior to the British bringing them over, and teaching Indians how to maintain and build them.

It's bigoted to deny this fact.
39   indc   2019 Jun 6, 2:56pm  

HonkpilledMaster says
indc says
You guys dont give up, You think India got all this technological acumen because british ruled it? 5000 yr old civilization and 200yrs of british rule is who gave them all this edge.


Yes. Products of the Industrial Revolution, and learning how to use them, is entirely British in origin.

India did not have the steam or combustion engines prior to the British bringing them over, and teaching Indians how to maintain and build them.


Are you "strategist"? I had same discussion with him. Just because you had 1 invention it does not mean you are superior. Yes you got lucky. India invented '0' and infinity and gave it to world that does not mean it is better "culture" than others.
40   socal2   2019 Jun 6, 3:12pm  

indc says
And then you say you are not racist?


Yeah - piss off with your racist charges.

India has made some great strides in recent years, but it still has massive problems - namely being one of the poorest places on earth. I think India is #2 behind Nigeria in number of people living in extreme poverty?

It is not racist or bigoted to point out that India's civilization has some work to do to catch up with the 1st world - if your civilization values the well being and economic health of its people.

If civilization was only based on race as you seem to contend, your country would absolutely be fucked....
41   indc   2019 Jun 6, 3:22pm  

socal2 says
indc says
And then you say you are not racist?


Yeah - piss off with your racist charges.

India has made some great strides in recent years, but it still has massive problems - namely being one of the poorest places on earth. I think India is #2 behind Nigeria in number of people living in extreme poverty?

It is not racist or bigoted to point out that India's civilization has some work to do to catch up with the 1st world - if your civilization values the well being and economic health of its people.

If civilization was only based on race as you seem to contend, your country would absolutely be fucked....

Dude dont be mad. it is not a charge, I am just presenting a counter point to what you are saying which I consider as racist. India is poor because british looted it. it will get back its past glory give it few years. It has better govt now hope it gets better governance.
What you think is not going to affect 1.3billion people. I am just trying to help you have better clarity. Maybe your next generation have to serve Indian overlords(Muhahaha).
42   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Jun 6, 3:29pm  

indc says
Are you "strategist"? I had same discussion with him. Just because you had 1 invention it does not mean you are superior. Yes you got lucky. India invented '0' and infinity and gave it to world that does not mean it is better "culture" than others.


Uh, steam combustion was more revolutionary than agriculture. Steam & Gas Combustion combined was beyond revolutionary.

Also work on Malaria, High Farming, Massive Scale Drainage, Canal Building, Computers (ditto), Refrigeration, Telegraph/Radio, Chemistry, Modern Medicine, etc. etc.

Any one of these were World shocking developments. That there were so many in one place at one time speaks volumes of the society that did it.

Everybody knows the "Zero" and Systemic Algebra were Indian inventions, but don't try to devalue the Amazing, Groundbreaking, and utterly Incredible inventions and discoveries of the British Society.
43   indc   2019 Jun 6, 3:30pm  

Here let me tell you a joke. There is a guy(india) walking on the street. Then a mugger(british) comes and asks the guy to give all his belongings. Even after taking everything from the guy the mugger doesn't leave he kicks the guy, passes stupid comments once his ego is satisfied then he leaves. What is the moral of the story?
44   indc   2019 Jun 6, 4:02pm  

HonkpilledMaster says
indc says
Are you "strategist"? I had same discussion with him. Just because you had 1 invention it does not mean you are superior. Yes you got lucky. India invented '0' and infinity and gave it to world that does not mean it is better "culture" than others.


Uh, steam combustion was more revolutionary than agriculture. Steam & Gas Combustion combined was beyond revolutionary.

Also work on Malaria, High Farming, Massive Scale Drainage, Canal Building, Computers (ditto), Refrigeration, Telegraph/Radio, Chemistry, Modern Medicine, etc. etc.

Any one of these were World shocking developments. That there were so many in one place at one time speaks volumes of the society that did it.

Everybody knows the "Zero" and Systemic Algebra were Indian inventions, but don't try to devalue the Amazing, Groundbreaking, and utterly Incredible inventions and discoveries of the British Society.

Again I am not denying that british did all this and much much more. But saying that India got everything from Briton is what I am asking you to re-think.
And that thinking is rac*** but you dont like me calling it. You dont know whole world and dont make conclusions based on few things your own people tell you.
45   Bd6r   2019 Jun 6, 4:03pm  

indc says
India is poor because british looted it.


I'd say it is poor because governance system is poor and highly corrupt. British looted Hong Kong and Singapore as well. Germany was bombed into oblivion 70 yrs ago. All those countries are now very rich.

Nearly 70 yrs of independence should be enough to get house in order.

indc says
Then a mugger(british) comes and asks the guy to give all his belongings. Even after taking everything from the guy the mugger doesn't leave he kicks the guy


That sadly is human history in nutshell. British vs. Indians, Muslims vs. Indians, Germans vs. the rest of Europe and later the rest of Europe vs. Germans, and so on.
46   indc   2019 Jun 6, 4:21pm  

d6rB says
indc says
India is poor because british looted it.


I'd say it is poor because governance system is poor and highly corrupt. British looted Hong Kong and Singapore as well. Germany was bombed into oblivion 70 yrs ago. All those countries are now very rich.

Nearly 70 yrs of independence should be enough to get house in order.

Indc
I dont disagree there. Governance was a problem. People kicked out the party that was ruling for 70 yrs.
But your examples cant compare to India. HongKong singapore are city states. Germany had technology and know-all before the war and recover after war with US help. You can compare what happened to eastern germany.
British left with undefined borders and India is in state of war ever since which again doesn't help with development.


indc says
Then a mugger(british) comes and asks the guy to give all his belongings. Even after taking everything from the guy the mugger doesn't leave he kicks the guy


That sadly is human history in nutshell. British vs. Indians, Muslims vs. Indians, Germans vs. the rest of Europe and later the rest of Europe vs. Germans, and so on.

What is common in all these conflicts - Abrahamic expansionism maybe.
47   Bd6r   2019 Jun 6, 4:42pm  

indc says
What is common in all these conflicts - Abrahamic expansionism maybe.

Probably in Muslim vs Indian, in other cases not so much. Adolf liked old Germanic religions AFAIK. In any case, religion always was an additional excuse for looting. Agree though that monotheistic religions typically are more aggressive.
WRT to development, see Japan, S. Korea - they are not city states and were devastated as well. S. Korea is in state of war even now.
48   indc   2019 Jun 6, 5:11pm  

d6rB says
indc says
What is common in all these conflicts - Abrahamic expansionism maybe.

Probably in Muslim vs Indian, in other cases not so much. Adolf liked old Germanic religions AFAIK. In any case, religion always was an additional excuse for looting. Agree though that monotheistic religions typically are more aggressive.
WRT to development, see Japan, S. Korea - they are not city states and were devastated as well. S. Korea is in state of war even now.


Again no denying any of that. India tried the socialist approach as it had to ride on Russia's coat tails. That was one of its major mistakes. Capitalist societies prosper which was what India was according to its civilizational ethos. When british left they called it transfer of power that means all the their idiotic laws and ideologies were transferred to new indian government.

It will all change now since the new government is trying to bring back the original Indian ethos.

How many troops did north send to south after DMZ was set. India has to face-off with pakistani troops crossing all the time. And china crossing line of control all the time.
49   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2019 Jun 6, 5:14pm  

YouTube employees will soon start organizing pride parades.
50   indc   2019 Jun 6, 5:26pm  

FortWayneIndiana says
YouTube employees will soon start organizing pride parades.


I think everyone should move to bitchute.
51   socal2   2019 Jun 6, 5:31pm  

indc says
India tried the socialist approach as it had to ride on Russia's coat tails. That was one of its major mistakes.


That probably set India back another generation. That shitty economic system can screw up cultures and civilization.

Now you have American companies like the one I work for setting up shop in India employing software developers and doing some manufacturing.

Does that work for the original Indian ethos?
52   indc   2019 Jun 6, 5:47pm  

socal2 says
indc says
India tried the socialist approach as it had to ride on Russia's coat tails. That was one of its major mistakes.


That probably set India back another generation. That shitty economic system can screw up cultures and civilization.

Now you have American companies like the one I work for setting up shop in India employing software developers and doing some manufacturing.

Does that work for the original Indian ethos?


One of the ethos, make profit.
53   just_passing_through   2019 Jun 6, 7:41pm  

Steven Crowder was just demonetized.. Not because he broke any policies. Something about links to his T-shirts.
54   just_passing_through   2019 Jun 6, 7:44pm  

If it wasn't for the Brits we wouldn't have IPA!
55   indc   2019 Jun 7, 9:37am  

just_dregalicious says
If it wasn't for the Brits we wouldn't have IPA!


Whatever british did its for betterment of its people. And I respect that. Nothing wrong in it.

But they dont need to lie that they brought "culture" to India. No need for white man's burden.
56   MisdemeanorRebel   2019 Jun 7, 9:51am  

indc says
But they dont need to lie that they brought "culture" to India. No need for white man's burden.



So glad to hear the Indians re-invented the Railroad and Antibiotics, refusing to use those objects of British Imperialism.

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