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America The Beautiful


               
2008 May 27, 6:53am   20,068 views  96 comments

by Peter P   follow (2)  

Coming back from Europe, I have realized that America still has hope. In fact, I believe we will be in good shape if we tread carefully. We are actually quite fortunate:

  • Homes are comparatively affordable in this country
  • Most people are not condemned to public transportation here
  • Tax rate is relatively low for moderate-income families on this side of the pond

Homes in Paris and London are still hopelessly expensive for most families. Even with high prices, many homes lack basic necessities such as air-conditioning or multiple bathrooms.

Why would someone choose to be stranded with rowdy youths or drunkards every day in subway trains?

Most European countries think that social engineering is the answer to all problems. I think they are absolutely wrong, unless they think frequent strikes are part of the productivity miracle. With sky-high tax rates, are than reasons (other than escalation of commitment) why productive people still want to stay there?

(Of course, there are exceptions. For example, Switzerland is still clean, efficient, and beautiful. Incidentally, it has some of the best tax policies in Europe.)

Anyway, it is nice to know that we will do fine.

- Peter P

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1   EBGuy   @   2008 May 27, 7:25am  

multiple bathrooms
God bless America!

BTW, did you visit Versaille? I have a mental image of you overlooking the gardens and announcing "Let them eat cake".

2   EBGuy   @   2008 May 27, 7:27am  

... excuse me, I meant to say "Let them eat sushi".

3   Peter P   @   2008 May 27, 7:30am  

LOL! We skipped Versaille this time.

4   Paul189   @   2008 May 27, 10:55am  

WOW!

5   Paul189   @   2008 May 27, 10:58am  

By logical extension-

We need to build many more roads (more freedom), bomb more countries(more freedom), cancel Amtrak (more freedom), repeal the gas tax (more freedom), repeal the income tax and get on with it. I hope our bankers in China, Japan and the UK are cool with that!

6   Paul189   @   2008 May 27, 10:59am  

btw - Versailles is awesome!!!!

7   thenuttyneutron   @   2008 May 27, 11:18am  

Peter,

Don’t kid yourself. We have our own socialized system that is just as bad as Europe’s. The design is very different but it still exists. It is as destructive as Europe’s system. The system we have now is being held hostage by people leveraged 40-1 with the threats of a financial collapse.

You can see it all over the place. The gubermint lies about inflation, employment data, and how it spends the tax revenue. The system is corrupt because there are no true free market forces at work. If we had a free market, the FED would not have stepped in to stop Bear Stearns from going under and causing a massive snow ball of derivatives to do some real damage.

The people like Kudlow on Kudlow and company think free market capitalism is the best path to prosperity, yet when downside becomes apparent, they run and cry like little babies. It was just a few months ago He cried about the fed not fixing the credit squeeze by lowering interest rates. What he failed to see was the credit squeeze was a good thing and would have allowed market forces to fix the imbalance. It is simply easier to devalue our currency than pay the piper for our past sins. Do you think people would have bid up housing so much if cheap easy credit were not available? Do you think it would have gotten this far had 20% down been required by the banks? The only way to change bank’s behavior is to make them eat the losses.

I say kick the people out of the homes and give the banks their collateral. Make them rent or live in their cars. If the bank fails, many will, liquidate the assets and pay the depositors what ever you can.

If the market had been allowed to correct, the cash that I have in my home would be worth more. The monopoly money would simply have evaporated and FDIC would have only been able to make good on about 1% of its obligations. Oil consumption would have dropped and we would be flooded with cheap oil. Imagine gas at $1/gallon because Americans would have been *gasp* forced to live within their means.

The FED social engineers the system to bail out people that should have lost lots of money. This is nothing more than dispursed costs with concentrated benefits.

8   Paul189   @   2008 May 27, 11:20am  

Yeah, Socialize risks and privatize profits - GO HARVARD / WALL STREET!

9   Peter P   @   2008 May 27, 11:29am  

Don’t kid yourself. We have our own socialized system that is just as bad as Europe’s.

Well, I just hope that we can learn from the lesson and move away from the welfare state.

The market will eventually find its equilibrium (or a new stable disequilibrium) with or without intervention. Have faith in the invisible hand. It will do God's work.

10   thenuttyneutron   @   2008 May 27, 11:42am  

I say let them eat asset backed paper. YUM!

11   Paul189   @   2008 May 27, 11:44am  

Ironic, they started as a Christian, Protestant University, and now, no mention of that in the context of the CEO criminals that have graduated from that institution.

12   thenuttyneutron   @   2008 May 27, 11:52am  

I should make millions of dollars worth of derivative contracts between my wife and me to use as collateral. I could then get cheap money from the central bank in exchange for worthless stuff. That is I can win in this game.

13   Peter P   @   2008 May 27, 11:53am  

Too bad the central bank is not interested in you.

14   PermaRenter   @   2008 May 27, 12:14pm  

>> The market will eventually find its equilibrium

There is NO MARKET in US .... stop your bullshit.

United States is a socialist country for rich. Socialize risk and privatize profit. I will choose EU over US any day when it comes to welfare policies.

15   PermaRenter   @   2008 May 27, 12:15pm  

>> The market will eventually find its equilibrium

There is NO MARKET in US

16   Peter P   @   2008 May 27, 12:18pm  

The market exists whenever there are human beings. Market forces are the manifestation of collective human will.

17   Paul189   @   2008 May 27, 12:30pm  

and government interventions

18   Paul189   @   2008 May 27, 12:32pm  

this countries markets are VERY managed!

19   Paul189   @   2008 May 27, 12:32pm  

ie FARM BILL

20   Paul189   @   2008 May 27, 12:33pm  

ie Bear Sterns bailout

21   Paul189   @   2008 May 27, 12:33pm  

ie TEA 21

22   PermaRenter   @   2008 May 27, 12:44pm  

U n i t e d S t a t e s I s A S o c i a l i s t C o u n t r y F o r R i c h.

23   PermaRenter   @   2008 May 27, 12:45pm  

S o c i a l i z e
R i s k
A n d
P r i v a t i z e
P r o f i t.

24   PermaRenter   @   2008 May 27, 12:45pm  

Europe is better than US in taking care of its people

25   Paul189   @   2008 May 27, 12:48pm  

and so on and so on

and they tell two friends and they tell two friends...

26   PermaRenter   @   2008 May 27, 12:56pm  

People do not have health care in US

27   PermaRenter   @   2008 May 27, 12:56pm  

People work to death in US

28   PermaRenter   @   2008 May 27, 12:56pm  

watch Sicko

29   PermaRenter   @   2008 May 27, 12:57pm  

Vote republican to avoid housing bailout and illegal immigration

30   Paul189   @   2008 May 27, 1:23pm  

Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_Prescription_Drug,_Improvement,_and_Modernization_Act

31   Peter P   @   2008 May 27, 11:25pm  

1. RE: welfare state, US is still doing better than Europe
2. Important: we should look at Europe and see what we *should not* do

32   thenuttyneutron   @   2008 May 27, 11:27pm  

I disagree. Our welfare state only looks like it is doing better because we still are in control of the world's reserve currency.

33   Duke   @   2008 May 27, 11:34pm  

Peter P

Yea - the truth is the US, for all f its many and painful flaws,is still better than most other nations.

Our inflation may well balkalnize the EU (or at least the EU Central Bank and currency).

Their form of social security is far worse and far more immediate of a problem than our problems (at least, Italym France and Germany).

Their immigration problems are worse than our problems.

Their labor competitiveness is worse than ours.

In the end, we need good government to keep us a step ahead, and I have lost a great deal of confidence in the people who are getting elected these days. Maybe a competency test is in order?

In any event, the Fed needs to curb inlfation NOW.

Bap

My comment on Merced was only this: homes are starting to clear there. That is the truth. People who are buying are planning to rent because they can do so - presumably to people getting aide. Also the truth. I am sure everything you are saying is also correct.

34   Peter P   @   2008 May 28, 12:36am  

Our welfare state only looks like it is doing better because we still are in control of the world’s reserve currency.

But that is quite something, isn't it? ;)

35   Peter P   @   2008 May 28, 12:46am  

I never said that I am a genius... and I always thought luck is a crucial element.

Most Americans live quite well compared to the rest of the world. We should work to keep it that way.

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