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RayAmerica says

This isn’t a liberal concept. This plan would allow you to be fat if you wanted to be. You’d just have to pay an extra tax on the extra load you’re carrying around.

I thought Ray/Abe would hate government intrusion into personal life choices. Now you propose a tax structure specifically targetting certain Americans. Astounding how you reach for Libtard tax tools when you feel like it.

Let's have a tax on registered Republicans since we're on this taxation bandwagon. They definitely cost the general population more than they put in. One need only compare the federal outlay versus revenue from red & blue states for proof. They need to start carrying their load, or learn to slim down too. I really can't stand the idea of people "getting fat" on my tax dollars, then not only costing me money but making dangerous choices that impact MY daily life:

Vicente your comments reminded me that the "fattest" states are in the SE, the Repub base. http://calorielab.com/news/2010/06/28/fattest-states-2010/
So, Ray's brilliant plan would disproportionately tax Republicans. Yet more proof that Ray is a liberal in disguise.

Don't forget this tax plan would help everyone; Republicans, Democrats & Independents. I think it's a terrific tax because it would actually accomplish something by encouraging people to get healthy. If enough fat people refuse to lose weight, it might prove to be so successful that we could possibly do away with the progressive income tax. With 72 million fat people out there, that seems very possible.

RayAmerica says

The question is: how important is your health? If you continue to put garbage into your body, don’t be surprised when you end up with poor health and a lot of issues that helps to make the medical community rich.

No you're saying the Answer is Bend over Punks, we've polluted and over developed all of our farm land, and the if tasteless fruits and rotten vegetables imported from Chile don't suit you, then Shop at Whore Foods(TM) where a pound of edible Cabbage will set you back a hundred bucks. Or fork out the premiums to the Health Care regime and pay the Fat Ass tax. Long live Monsanto and Nestle!

In three days, the Tea Baggers are going to turn shit upside down.

sniff sniff!!! Smell that? It's the year of Bubba coming down on you.

I have to admit that Egg McMuffin looks tasty.

RayAmerica says

Don’t forget this tax plan would help everyone; Republicans, Democrats & Independents. I think it’s a terrific tax because it would actually accomplish something by encouraging people to get healthy. If enough fat people refuse to lose weight, it might prove to be so successful that we could possibly do away with the progressive income tax. With 72 million fat people out there, that seems very possible.

Interesting, isn't that what liberals always say - "this tax will help everyone." Keep talking, your true colors are finally coming out.

tah .... have you ever considered losing weight?

RayAmerica says

tah …. have you ever considered losing weight?

No need. I'm quite sure under your fascist regime, I wouldn't be taxed. Even though I wouldn't be taxed, I don't want you and your liberal buddies trying to control every element of my life.

Not every element. Just your weight.

Ask somebody hungry if that other stuff that "Aint food" is food.

Zlxr says

I think this would be better than singling people out for being “fat”.
Also - it should cost less to go to a gym, and people should get credits for being healthy - there needs to be an incentive in there somewhere.

Maybe a combination of the two; a lower tax on fat if you prove you're really trying and a tax credit to be applied towards a health club. Of course, they'd have to prove they are using the health club.

anal sex by deviant males causes health issues and death too ..... incase it matters to be talking about how to make folks healthy.

So bap, if you could totally eliminate one or the other from the US, the homos or the invaders, which would you choose ?

Bap33 says

anal sex

Whoa there buddy, I don't know how Ray would "weigh" that.

Instead of sending the fat people to health clubs, why don't we sent them to "camps" where they can "concentrate" on their weight? We could go around to each house and see if there are any fat people there. If there are, we yank them from their families and put them in the camps. At these camps, we could force them to run and run and then run some more. They wouldn't get to eat much if anything. The ones who can't cut it, don't make it out of camp. This whole plan just keeps getting better and better Ray.

tah ... I think you're taking it a little bit too far. I'm feeling slightly uncomfortable with "concentration camps" for fat people. Let's just stick to the Fat Tax idea.

Come on Ray, don't start using logic now. Let's go all the way with this baby.

Back when I was a kid they had a thing called "Fat Boy Camps" where the parents would pay to send little tubby off for a few weeks in the summer to work off all that fat. Maybe that's what you had in mind? It seemed like a good idea back then. I think the ACLU shut them down. A lot of those ACLU types were fat kids that grew up to be fat liberals ... at least that appears to be the case.

RayAmerica says

Back when I was a kid they had a thing called “Fat Boy Camps”

Speaking of that, the military last year was considering "fat camps" prior to basic training because it was getting so many out-of-shape applicants who needed remedial work.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/12/top-recruiter-weighs-fat-_n_157090.html

Obviously the liberal pinko traitor spies were working hard to infiltrate the military en masse and drag it down. Amazing the Army hasn't figured it out yet.

I'm posting this without any comment. I post, you decide:

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2010/10/29/judge-mcdonalds-pay-obese-employee-k/

RayAmerica says

I’m posting this without any comment. I post, you decide:
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2010/10/29/judge-mcdonalds-pay-obese-employee-k/

Did you even read your article? You do realize it's a court in BRAZIL, right? Other than that, what's the point of your post? It shows rewarding obesity - the antithesis of your point.

Do you fall down a lot Ray?

Or was your point that more people should be suing these evil corporations for making them fat? Your liberal bias is striking.

It shows the court in Brazil penalizing McDonalds for feeding this poor worker all that fat producing food. How was he to know he'd gain all that weight? Kind of like a fat tax on McDonalds.

Wow, so you're ok with our food source being controlled by pseudo-taxing corporations for serving fatty foods? It seems like in your perfect world, McDonald's, Dunkin Donuts, etc. wouldn't exist. All that should exist is Whole Foods, and they can only serve healthfoods. Interesting take on things. I don't think you could go any further left.

How does your buddy Abe feel about these views?

I'm not for taxing donuts, only the people that get fat eating them. Whole Foods is my favorite place to shop.

ch_tah says

Vicente your comments reminded me that the “fattest” states are in the SE, the Repub base.

Nice chart there, thanks!

Yes we should get Ray and his Big Brother right onto this Red State Obesity Epidemic.
Perhaps they should get their own commission to tackle it. I think we need paratroopers
for Mississippi though, look at it!

RayAmerica says

I’m not for taxing donuts, only the people that get fat eating them. Whole Foods is my favorite place to shop.

You just said you are ok with a lawsuit against McD's - "kind of like a fat tax." That's a penalty against McD's, not the fat person. And the lawsuit actually rewarded the fat person.

What Liberals don't understand is, the voting public is at critical mass. That is all we've got.
It's an even dead heat of two Idiot factions tied dead nuts even.
Though, the Voting public is still only 20 or 30% of the people in the U.S., that other 70% that aren't involved, they trust and leave politics up to those that follow it. And thus far, they haven't been affected to terribly.
You start directly screwing with these people where you want to inject your policy on them and enslave them into Corporate bondage.

That other 70% that don't vote, they Riot, and Rebel.

marcus says

So bap, if you could totally eliminate one or the other from the US, the homos or the invaders, which would you choose ?

thats an easy one, the invaders. you see, the deviants, if legal citizens, are Americans and belong here as much as you or I. Invaders cheat all non-invaders by accessing America's great bounty unfairly.

Also, American sexual deviants don't cheat American non-deviants from having normal sex (since sex act is the major difference). American adult male sexual deviants are not breaking laws in many states when they perform their acts of deviant nature. American sexual deviants are a favorite taget of some invader based street gangs.

Deviants! Even worse than tubby people. Surprised you only mention male deviants when obviously we should be equally disparaging of females. Particularly if they are on Welfare:

/I'll be in my bunk

no, not true, when the discussion was about public health. Female sexual deviants are not in the peril that male+male sodomites are.

Yeah in fact it's encouraged.

Let's demonstrate...

TOT yelling in a tent revival, who's down for some hot WOW action?
"HELL YEAH!"

O.K. Who's down for some MOM action,(crickets chirping) "hey where did the reverend go?"

Take everything Ray-ray wrote on this thread an substitute "fat" with other fun words, such as "rich", or maybe "gun owners".

It gets amusing. Or maybe I'm just easily amused.

RayAmerica says

Fat people (I’m working on the statistics that would constitute “fat” … height/weight/age etc.) would be required to “weigh in” once a month.

I'd hate to see the results of Ray-ray making any attempts at being scientific.

Simple attempts at defining "fat", such as BMI tables, are very inaccurate because they make big assumptions about what shape a person is in. The main assumption for a standard BMI table is that the subject is sedenttary (out of shape).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_mass_index#Limitations_and_shortcomings

According to BMI measures and tables, an athlete might be classified as obese.

Ray-ray for Fat Commissioner!

I can't wait to get in front of one of these right-wing Fat Panels.

Who needs left-wing Death Panels when we can have right-wing Fat Panels?

Vicente says

Let’s have a tax on registered Republicans since we’re on this taxation bandwagon. They definitely cost the general population more than they put in.

Brilliant. Also note that it isn't only federal support for states that makes Republicans costly. We should also tax them for the $3T worth of wars that they have started.

"Obesity Rates to Clime to 42%"

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6A35SO20101104

Rayray says

Back when I was a kid they had a thing called “Fat Boy Camps”

It's well documented that people who experience horrible childhoods grow up to become trolls on the interwebs. Explains so much.

Why don't we tax jackasses for each of their asinine posts? We'd make bank off you & the boys.

I apologize for this thread. Apparently I have hit a nerve with some of the "Fit & Trim Challenged" folks in here. Obesity leads to over 300,000 premature deaths every year in the good old (and fat) USA. That translates into 25,000 per month, 5,769 per week, 821 per day, and 34 per hour.

What's the cost in health-care expenditures due to obesity and overweight people? A whopping 9.1% of our total health-care bill. In 2002, the estimated cost was $117 BILLION (estimated to be much higher now due to the fact obesity/overweight has increased). In other words, obesity and overweight people really are costing all of us a lot of money.

While admittedly the solution to this problem as stated in my thread is far from a perfect one, something needs to be done, and soon. If not, Americans are going to be faced with skyrocketing health-care costs due to an epidemic that is almost entirely preventable. If you have a better solution to a tax penalty as a means to encourage people to become healthy and fit, I'd love to hear it.

Come on Ray, go for the gold instead of that tired "let's use taxes to encourage some social behavior" that pansy-ass theft of money is only for Libtards.

Deny them food. Particularly starve out the "undesirable" parts of the country.