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He's jumped the whale.

\rpanic01 says

He’s jumped the whale.

That was funny - thanks, I needed that.

For those who prefer to look for any reason to post something negative about President Obama - especially those who masturbate to Faux News, I guess you can view this as him going back on his promise.

But those of you who possess the ability to make an independent judgement on any issue might be interested in the following information:

http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/afp/australia-bids-to-close-japans-whaling-loophole/378120

"Australia has launched international legal action to stop Japan killing hundreds of whales a year in the name of science, officials said Tuesday, as Tokyo condemned the move.

"The scale of killing, taking and treating carried out under this programme greatly outweighs any previous practice undertaken on the basis of scientific permits in the history of the IWC (International Whaling Commission)," it said."

elliemae says

For those who prefer to look for any reason to post something negative about President Obama

Pointing out the FACT that it's another BROKEN campaign promise (in an ever increasing list) is now considered being "negative" by the loony left. Just keep breathing deep through your mouth and drink those gulps of Kool-Aid. Everything will be just fine. LOL

The Left's complacency of this Administrations short comings and follies, is going to put the biggest scariest Tea Party Idiot in office 2012.

We're a bipolar country, we swing from one extreme to another.

Democrats could salvage their party by, denouncing or at least calling their elected leaders on their short comings. That is why the political pendelum swung so far Left in 2008, is the Republicans didn't want to own up to Bush's antics, they didn't say one single bad word about that 8 year administration until Primaries started. That's too late.

I suspect the Democrats will be done as a Political dominant force for the rest of my life anyway.

Democrats leave a longer lasting sting.

Tenouncetrout says

I suspect the Democrats will be done as a Political dominant force for the rest of my life anyway.

Just 16 months ago this would have been considered a completely ludicrous statement. At that time, the Democrats were saying the "GOP is finished." Give Obama and the Democrats actual power instead of their campaign rhetoric (yes we can, blah, blah, blah) and we have a whole new ball game.

The Japanese government has bought $100B of US Treasuries since March 09.

He who pays the piper calls the tune, perhaps, but more likely this was part of diplomatic deal to keep the Marine base on Okinawa open for business.

Funny how RayAmerica wants to cripple the US's ability to confront our enemies in China and North Korea over some harmless whale harvesting.

Jesus, the sh-t conservatives complain about these days.

didn't Obama also promised "not to raise taxes"? hmmm, wonder how he's going to pay for his "Cadilac" version of health care plan... Oh, he needs to TAX his way out of that, duh!

RayAmerica says

Pointing out the FACT that it’s another BROKEN campaign promise (in an ever increasing list) is now considered being “negative” by the loony left.

You're correct - he broke a promise. It will benefit the whales that the world is trying to protect, but what the hell - he promised so he should stick with it because people should never be able to change their mind. In rayray world, this works very well.

Your grasp on reality grows ever more tenuous, rayray. Might wanna pull your head out of whichever orifice you've got it deeply imbedded in and realize that you know not whereof you speak.

Troll.

yanhiggins says

didn’t Obama also promised “not to raise taxes”? hmmm, wonder how he’s going to pay for his “Cadilac” version of health care plan… Oh, he needs to TAX his way out of that, duh!

No--you must be thinking of George Bush I. "no new taxes"....

elliemae says

You’re correct - he broke a promise.

I knew it. I'm finally having an effect. The Obama Kool-Aid is beginning to have a funny taste to it. First Maureen Dowd, now ellie "the fainter" mae. Does it get any better than this?

Elliemae, when people don't understand how to think and can't see shades of gray they are easier to control because you can box them into positions of 100% black and 100% white and set them up to battle one another. While the extreme right and the extreme left duke it out, the rest of us are busy using our brains and intelligence to solve problems that need solving.

The Rayrays of the world are the automatons that are easily manipulated and controlled to make lots of noise but in the end, they accomplish nothing.

The irony about this is that by removing the moratorium and placing strict quotas on Japan, Iceland, and Norway the world would see a decline in the amount of whales hunted. Now these three countries hunt under the guise of "Scientific Research" and they kill more whales than when they were allowed to hunt before the moratorium.

But alas, the Rayrays of the world can't see beyond the 10 second sound-bite.

rayray says

ellie “the fainter” mae... ellie "I never insult anyone" mae... ellie "I never, ever, insult anyone" mae...

I think it's cute that you like to write my name over & over. Besides writing my name so many different ways, do you think of me when you're... well - you know, "Ray-sing America?"

elliemae says

You’re correct - he broke a promise.

Worth repeating. LOL

RayAmerica says

elliemae says

You’re correct - he broke a promise.

Worth repeating. LOL

Post it again, and again, and again. Don't care. It makes you look dumb - because you obviously lack the ability to understand the actual issue. Being right is more important to you than being correct.

YIKES! I dated a Log Cabin Republican once. Never again. Talk about self-hating hypocrites, geez...

robertoaribas says

how is reducing whale hunting going against the spirit of his promise to end it?
You know, we wanted someone intelligent in office, someone who would think about issues, instead of making from the gut bad decisions like the previous president, and I guess it is natural to expect those who lack any thinking or intelligence will have emotional responses to this.

Rayray confuses his emotional responses with factual information. It's difficult for him to do anything, what with his medical diagnosis of rectal-cranial inversion, a common ailment amongst people who lack the ability to formulate cohesive, independent thought. A manifestation of his condition is the propensity to write my name repeatedly, changing it a little each time. I'm willing to bet that, when he writes it in his Mead spiral notebook, he makes little swirlies and dots the "i" with a heart...

It's cute the way kids when they have a crush.

Try to spin it any way you want. Too bad the facts keep getting in the way.

From the posted news article:

Environmentalists, already peeved with the administration’s handling of the Gulf oil spill, are accusing President Obama of breaking his campaign pledge to end the slaughter of whales.

RayAmerica says

Try to spin it any way you want.

That's your job. Sitting & spinning...

FACT = RayAmerica says

But environmentalists aren’t buying it.
“That moratorium on commercial whaling was the greatest conservation victory of the 20th century. And in 2010 to be waving the white flag or bowing to the stubbornness of the last three countries engaged in the practice is a mind-numbingly dumb idea,” Patrick Ramage, the whaling director at the International Fund for Animal Welfare, told FoxNews.com.

Obama's plan to lift the ban is "mind-numbingly dumb." Leftists on this site agree with Obama's plan; ergo, leftists are "mind-numbingly dumb.' Thanks for playing ellie.

Tenouncetrout says

The Left’s complacency of this Administrations short comings and follies, is going to put the biggest scariest Tea Party Idiot in office 2012.
We’re a bipolar country, we swing from one extreme to another.

No we don't. We mostly elect moderates, or at least people who appear to be moderates.

Every President that we've had for the last 60 years has been an incremental change from the previous. The biggest change you can point out is probably when we went from Carter to Reagan, but other than that it was more of a gentle tug in one direction or another.

If you ignore the war on terror bullshit, can you really argue that George W Bush was extreme compared to bill clinton? Can you argue that Clinton was extreme compared to HW? That Nixon was all that different from Kennedy / LBJ?

Our elections are incredibly close because the ideologies of the mainstream aren't that divided, despite what you might see on stupid websites and TV shows that label anyone slightly to the left or right as "extremists".

Nomo .... By you spending a ton of your time "making up" your fictional list, at least one major objective was accomplished; you were removed from the streets for said amount of time, thereby removing a serious danger to others and yourself. For that, society owes me a resounding thank you for my service to my country.

Kevin says

That Nixon was all that different from Kennedy / LBJ?

Nixon was the ultimate insider of the East Coast Rockefeller establishment, as was LBJ. JFK was in no way a part of that establishment and was far too independent for them. Proof? In June of 1963, he ordered the printing of $4.2 Billion (a considerable sum in '63) of U.S. Treasury currency, bypassing the Federal Reserve and the interest due to them. The Fed is the treasure house of Wall Street and the PRIVATE bankers, which is in fact the Eastern establishment. JFK also fired Wall Street’s man (CFR charter member) that headed the CIA, Allen Dulles, and promised to break the CIA up "into a thousand pieces." JFK was the only president in my lifetime that had the guts to take on the banksters that run our country. Prior to that, in all our history, only Andrew Jackson, Lincoln (during the Civil War) and Grover Cleveland displayed the same fortitude against the central bankers. All other presidents have followed their orders from this shadow government in lock step because they are the real money players that control the nation's economy via the money supply.

RayAmerica says

Nixon was the ultimate insider of the East Coast Rockefeller establishment, as was LBJ.

WTF are you talking about. LBJ as a good old boy Texas politician, from small town Texas. If you ever read his papers he openly mocked the ivy league establishment types.

bob2356 says

LBJ as a good old boy Texas politician, from small town Texas.

Prior to becoming VP, LBJ was the Senate Majority Leader and known to be one of the biggest, wheeler-dealer, insider politicians in U.S. history. No one that ever held that post had more power than him. As far as the little "small town" politician that you THINK he was is about as funny as it gets. Under LBJ, a little conflict in Southeast Asia escalated into Viet Nam War. LBJ was nothing other than a tool for the Big Bankers and Military Industrial complex that were the main beneficiaries of it. Under LBJ, troop levels went from 16,000 in Nov. 1963 to over 500,000. That isn't an act of some little, small town politician. Somehow you mixed up Ivy League universities and the money powers of the Eastern Establishment, i.e. the Rockefellers, the Rothchilds, Wall Street and the mega bankers.

Let's predict Rayray's future posts:

Obama is causing sun spots
Obama is making up global warming but if it's real he's causing it
Obama is a Jihadist
Liberals are hypocrites
Obama hates freedom
Obama is causing the Earth's axis to shift
Obama prays to Allah
I hate Liberals
Obama is raising taxes on the middle class
Obama is a Kenyan
I hate Liberals
Obama is stealing your money
Obama is taking your house
Obama is taking your guns
Liberals are hypocrites
Liberals are from Venus, Rayray is from Mars
Obama is causing hurricanes
Obama caused the Gulf Oil Spill
Obama sends tornadoes to destroy the red states
I hate Liberals
Obama is the Anti-Christ
Obama eats newborn unbaptized babies for breakfast
Obama performs late term abortions
Liberals are hypocrites
Obama hates America

These are the few that simply pop into my head as the most likely posts he'll create. Anyone else have any predictions?

Umm.. Obama pushed through health care.

Getting one major thing done per year is pretty much a good goal for any large company, let alone a massive shift at the government level.

RayAmerica says

bob2356 says

LBJ as a good old boy Texas politician, from small town Texas.

Prior to becoming VP, LBJ was the Senate Majority Leader and known to be one of the biggest, wheeler-dealer, insider politicians in U.S. history. No one that ever held that post had more power than him. As far as the little “small town” politician that you THINK he was is about as funny as it gets. Under LBJ, a little conflict in Southeast Asia escalated into Viet Nam War. LBJ was nothing other than a tool for the Big Bankers and Military Industrial complex that were the main beneficiaries of it. Under LBJ, troop levels went from 16,000 in Nov. 1963 to over 500,000. That isn’t an act of some little, small town politician. Somehow you mixed up Ivy League universities and the money powers of the Eastern Establishment, i.e. the Rockefellers, the Rothchilds, Wall Street and the mega bankers.

So you are saying that LBJ was most powerful politician to ever be the senate president and one of the most powerful presidents, at least in terms of political power. I agree, no doubt about it. However it has nothing to do with his back round or world view. Which. if you read his own words was frequently very much small town Texas.

So what you are now saying that he was a simple handmaiden of the big powers of the "Eastern Establishment". How could he be the "ultimate insider" while being "nothing but a tool". How could he be the "most powerful" while being the dupe of the mega bankers? I'm so confused.

Isn't this all just a little contradictory even by your standards? I really am impressed with your ability to argue simultaneous contradictory thoughts forcefully. It's a real talent.

I'm not a fan of LBJ by the way. The great society was a disaster. But the idea of LBJ being conned onto the Vietnam war to sell more military hardware is too silly to imagine.

Does that mean that Truman, Reagan, and Bush II were also "a tool for the Big Bankers and Military Industrial complex that were the main beneficiaries of it." to use your words. Military spending increased equal amounts under these presidents. Just curious.

simchaland says

These are the few that simply pop into my head

For someone that claims this list just popped into your head, I think you should have your head checked. A quick read of your post indicates an abnormal amount of repetition, a sure sign of mental deficiency or illness. Seriously, check yourself into a clinic before it's too late.

bob2356 says

If you ever read his papers he openly mocked the ivy league establishment types.

I've read several books on LBJ and although he appeared jealous of JFK's class, etc., I never read anywhere where he "openly mocked the ivy league establishment types." I assume you must have read this in "his papers," can you provide a specific quote on this subject? I find it a little hard to believe a seasoned politician like LBJ would have "openly mocked" any group of voters.

The more time Nomo is off the street, the safer we all are. Mission Accomplished.

I was in the San Diego area recently and felt unsafe. Now I realize that it was due to the presence of a certain jewish physician. But I guess I can go there today because he's off the street.

elliemae says

I was in the San Diego area recently and felt unsafe. Now I realize that it was due to the presence of a certain jewish physician. But I guess I can go there today because he’s off the street.

Elliemae don't get too comfortable. We still have a wingnut on the loose.

Bob ... you still there??

RayAmerica says

I’ve read several books on LBJ and although he appeared jealous of JFK’s class, etc., I never read anywhere where he “openly mocked the ivy league establishment types.” I assume you must have read this in “his papers,” can you provide a specific quote on this subject? I find it a little hard to believe a seasoned politician like LBJ would have “openly mocked” any group of voters.

RayAmerica says

Bob … you still there??
RayAmerica says

I’ve read several books on LBJ and although he appeared jealous of JFK’s class, etc., I never read anywhere where he “openly mocked the ivy league establishment types.” I assume you must have read this in “his papers,” can you provide a specific quote on this subject? I find it a little hard to believe a seasoned politician like LBJ would have “openly mocked” any group of voters.

Haven't had time to dig out books in storage. Too lazy to look up on the internet. The book I'm looking for is Lyndon Johnson & The American Dream as well as one called the Johnson Tapes if I remember correctly. In public LBJ was a very gracious speaker, in private LBJ was frequently rude, crude, threatening, and overbearing. He would talk to people he didn't respect while on the toilet and his penchant for whipping out his penis was well documented. If he didn't screw up the country so much I really would have liked him.

What happened to my question by the way? You have described as LBJ both the ultimate insider power broker and a hapless dupe of the "eastern establishment" tricked into a major war ? Which is it You can't have it both ways.

bob2356 says

What happened to my question by the way? You have described as LBJ both the ultimate insider power broker and a hapless dupe of the “eastern establishment” tricked into a major war ? Which is it You can’t have it both ways.

In politics, power is not derived from the individual, but rather from his or her own commitment to "go along" with the power brokers. That's the meaning behind the classic line often used in politics: "to get along, you have to go along." LBJ had power because he knew not only how to play the game, he knew who to play with. Even FDR recognized this. In a private letter to Mendel House, he stated: "we both know that the bankers have controlled this country since the days of Andrew Jackson." Money runs this country and BIG money, i.e. the Bankers & Wall Street are the ones that pull all the puppet strings. By going against these power brokers, politicians not only do not advance, they literally have no power. Nathan Rothschild once said: "I care not what puppet sits on the throne of England. The man that controls the money supply rules the British Empire." Why do you think BOTH parties were lock step in favor of the bailout of Wall Street, the Banks, AIG, etc.? Follow the money and you’ll see who it is that really yields power.