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DemoralizerOfPanicans says

https://x.com/AnnaGorisch/status/1961188471139451284

I'd like to see that cunt prove my application is "unserious". If the education, qualifications and experience is there - GLWT.

Howard Lutnick recently said that he is reviewing H-1B program.

RWSGFY says

India just thumbed its nose at Donnie's demand to stop buying Soviet oil. Time to start deporting Indian H1Bs - it'll get that Modi fuck's attention pronto.

For decades, India gets blackmailed to buy oil by hostile governments including previous Indian communist regimes with lots of restrictions and higher prices!
Russia is a proven mutually trusted partner for long time. Trump had dinner with Porkistan military puppet in WH who gave a threat to India right after the dinner!
This can be a sign of a US low to higher level proxy war on India.

MolotovCocktail says

https://www.indiatoday.in/world/us-news/story/is-donald-trump-trying-punish-india-it-services-exports-after-taxing-trade-tariff-peter-navarro-h1b-new-visa-policy-2781264-2025-09-03

https://zeenews.india.com/world/struggling-for-basic-meals-if-things-don-t-improve-soon-indian-students-in-us-slammed-by-brutal-visa-rules-job-collapse-2955699.html

@SouthAsiaIndex
Just IN: President Trump considering a proposal to block US IT companies from outsourcing their work to Indian companies — a move that could wreck Indian IT sector & cost millions of jobs.
https://x.com/SouthAsiaIndex/status/1963927195715547432

Blue says

RWSGFY says

India just thumbed its nose at Donnie's demand to stop buying Soviet oil. Time to start deporting Indian H1Bs - it'll get that Modi fuck's attention pronto.

Russia is a proven mutually trusted partner for long time.

Choosing relashionship with loser Soviets over the US is a great way to shoot oneself in the foot. Both feet, probably.

But I can see how it is a more natural fit, taking into account the similarity in the sanitation situation: 1/3 of the Soviet population has no indoor plumbing.

RWSGFY says

Blue says

RWSGFY says

India just thumbed its nose at Donnie's demand to stop buying Soviet oil. Time to start deporting Indian H1Bs - it'll get that Modi fuck's attention pronto.

Russia is a proven mutually trusted partner for long time.

Choosing relashionship with loser Soviets over the US is a great way to shoot oneself in the foot. Both feet, probably.

But I can see how it is a more natural fit, taking into account the similarity in the sanitation situation: 1/3 of the Soviet population has no indoor plumbing.

So you still suggest buy oil at US suggested places that would push back to $150. US supply unlimited military supplies to Porkstan as part of the proxy war with India. The puppet literally said will blow up oil refineries in India right after dinner with Trump.
If you’re not aware, all left and jihadi political parties, media, major consumable business owned and run by US.

Blue says

So you still suggest buy oil at US suggested places that would push back to $150. US supply unlimited military supplies to Porkstan as part of the proxy war with India. The puppet literally said will blow up oil refineries in India right after dinner with Trump.

India is making out like crazy on outsourced IT. We need some reciprocity.

India is NOT entitled to millions of US-based IT jobs without something for the American Citizen (not multinational company) in return.

Also, the "investor visa" has to be restricted to NEW non-service businesses. IE not buying an existing hotel or gas station. Patel has to start a new business entirely, and not hotels, gas, convenience, clothing, restuarant, or other service

Buy F-18s? Buy US Oil? Something.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/restriction-on-entry-of-certain-nonimmigrant-workers/

SUMMARY OF H-1B EXECUTIVE ORDER

- ENTRY BAN: No H-1B visa holder may enter the United States beginning Sunday September 21st, including current visa holders, unles they pay $100K to enter.

- VISA FEE: New H-1B and H-1B extensions must pay 100K to be processed and 100K per year every year thereafter to maintain them.

This will effectively end the H-1B program completely. No one, even the highest paid at 500K will be paying an extra 100K a year to the government.

It will destroy the health care, higher education, and technology sectors as we know them if this isn't struck down in court.

Musk should not have pissed off Trump, then.

Note the $100K fee per year may come with a regulation, not immediately, what is immediate is the travel ban on Sunday for 1 year subject to renewal unless the employer/immigrant pays $100K to enter.

Also the suspension of processing new H-1Bs by DHS.

That $100,000 new executive order by Trump seems like a Save American Citizen Tech Worker Jobs Act.

There is so much he's doing like this, securing the border, more manufacturing/tech investment in USA including the shipbuilding program, etc.

The corporate media refuses to report this or only report it to make it look like its "not what is America is about" as Biden would say.

AD says

That $100,000 new executive order by Trump seems like a Save American Citizen Tech Worker Jobs Act.

There is so much he's doing like this, securing the border, more manufacturing/tech investment in USA including the shipbuilding program, etc.

The corporate media refuses to report this or only report it to make it look like its "not what is America is about" as Biden would say.

If Musk had stayed aligned with Trump and Modhi didn't play "fuck around and find out" with his BRICS pals in Beijing & Moscow, this probably would not have happened either.

The $100K fee per year for every H1b (and every similar program) should be made into law.

• The proclamation DOES NOT apply to individuals already in the U.S. on H-1B status, or to student visa holders on OPT seeking to change their status to H-1B.

• It applies only to individuals outside the United States who are being sponsored for H-1B visas and seeking entry. This is specifically aimed at the Indian IT outsourcing companies whose business model is to sponsor large numbers of foreign workers abroad and bring them into the U.S. on H-1B visas. They may shift to sourcing workers who arrived on student visas or to heavily utilizing L-1 visas.

• H-1B workers could also be affected if they ever travel abroad and require visa stamping in order to return to the United States, even if they are otherwise in valid status.

The proclamation isn’t terrible, but it falls short of truly helping American workers and STEM graduates. Companies like Google and Microsoft won’t be affected, because they source their foreign workers through L-1 visas or from those who arrived on student visas. So when @howardlutnick said tech companies support it, now we know why.

If the Trump administration truly wants to help American tech workers and STEM graduates, it needs to end the OPT program, which was created entirely through regulation. Otherwise, it isn’t serious about fixing this issue.

https://x.com/USTechWorkers/status/1969209380395499985

Damn!

Hahaha. The spin is on!

Lot of shit flying around the internet. Here's what WH officially sez:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/09/restriction-on-entry-of-certain-nonimmigrant-workers/

Not as glamorous as I thought but I think this would still apply for anyone up for renewal this year, unless I didn't read that correctly.

I sort of skimmed over the section c.B-a(j) barf.

Not so fast, offshore folks. Here’s what’s coming for offshore and OPT.

• A $100,000 annual fee on H-1B entries is now in effect by presidential proclamation for an initial 12 months. That changes the math on body-shopping and staffing arbitrage overnight.

• The HIRE Act has been introduced to add a 25% excise tax on “outsourcing payments” and to deny tax deductions for those payments. If it passes, offshore vendor work aimed at U.S. consumers gets hit twice.

• Courts and cities are laying groundwork against caste bias in hiring, making the referral networks that exclude Americans a legal liability. Seattle’s caste ban has survived court challenges, and similar actions are gaining traction.

• Litigation risk is rising. A Ninth Circuit panel revived a class action alleging preference for foreign workers over U.S. citizens, signaling more lawsuits and discovery into hiring pipelines.

Bottom line. The offshoring arbitrage that locked out American grads is getting expensive, risky, and visible. Expect more scrutiny on OPT-to-H-1B pipelines and on any job reqs written to exclude citizens. The era of quiet gatekeeping is ending.

https://x.com/ChiefNiftyswell/status/1969448696375816566

HIRE Act probably won't pass. But if it did I think it would be the first tariff levied on services instead of goods. Awesome.

Hahaha! Microsoft is feeding the panic! So the 4chan folks gumming up the flights didn't waste their time after all.

FYI: Fyi: https://patrick.net/comment?comment_id=2209110

The Visa Trap: When Foreign Workers Realize the Ground Beneath Them Is Cracking

One week, you’re promised “easy applications” and a million more H-1Bs.
The next week, it’s a $100,000 fee, mandatory in-person interviews, and restrictions on where those interviews can even take place.

This is not stability. It’s whiplash.

• India’s Ministry of External Affairs called the $100,000 H-1B fee “deeply concerning” and warned of “serious humanitarian consequences for families already settled in the United States” (Al Jazeera, 2025).

• Nasscom, the largest IT industry body in India, said the new fee would “seriously disrupt Indian IT operations in the United States and threaten business continuity for major firms” (Reuters, 2025).

• The Hindustan Times editorial board wrote that the fee “effectively kills the programme” because “median salaries of H-1B holders make such a cost punitive and unsustainable” (Hindustan Times, 2025).

• Former NITI Aayog CEO Amitabh Kant declared bluntly: “This is India’s gain. The more Washington tightens, the more talent will stay here and build India’s future” (Times of India, 2025).

• The Washington Post reported that major employers had met with the White House days before the announcement, leaving workers convinced “their companies knew what was coming but chose not to warn them” (Washington Post, 2025).

• NDTV quoted corporate sources advising employees “to stay put inside the United States until the dust settles,” adding that “Microsoft, Amazon, and JPMorgan privately told foreign staff not to travel abroad” (NDTV, 2025).

• On Reddit’s r/Economics forum, one user wrote: “I sold my car in India, uprooted my kids, and moved here. Now I’m being told I might owe $100K every year just to keep my visa alive. How do you plan a life around that?” (Reddit, 2025).

• In r/ABCDesis, a viral thread described an Emirates flight at San Francisco International Airport: “Indians literally pleaded to get off the plane after hearing about the new rule. They didn’t want to risk being locked out if they left the country” (Reddit, 2025).

And it doesn’t stop there:

• In-person interviews are back, and third-country workarounds are ending. Applicants must interview in their own country of residence.

• Student visas are capped at four years. Language programs even shorter.

• Optional Practical Training (OPT) is openly discussed as being eliminated.

If you are here on a visa, you cannot trust what you hear on Monday to still be true on Friday. You cannot trust your employer to tell you what’s coming. And you cannot assume that yesterday’s path to residency will exist tomorrow.

The Trump administration has made more incremental restrictions on H-1B, OPT, and student visas in a few months than any administration in decades. The pattern is clear.

Foreign workers thought they were buying stability. What they got was a trap door.

https://x.com/ChiefNiftyswell/status/1969534935389127118

Are big tech execs on suicide watch?

Fortwaye says

Are big tech execs on suicide watch?

Big Techs hire students from our colleges via the OPT visas. They don't even have to pay FICA on them.

The OPTs get converted into H1Bs and other visas.

Sheee-it! It's a total flood now. I can't keep up with it all. I NEED ASSISTANCE. :)

I think Trump had four political reasons for imposing these H1B fees:

1. It raises American wages and lowers competition for housing. Real MAGA stuff.
2. It retaliates against India for buying Russian oil.
3. It hurts Amazon, Google, Facebook, and other such tech monsters with severe TDS.
4. It lowers house prices in California in particular, and California has severe TDS.

So it's perfectly rational all around.

But what about the other visa programs which are used to fuck American workers?

L-1 (Intracompany Transferee) For executives, managers, or specialized knowledge workers transferring from a foreign affiliate. No cap.
J-1 (Exchange Visitor) For trainees/interns in professional programs (e.g., au pairs, researchers). Unlimited.
H-1B1 (Chile/Singapore) Like H-1B but for citizens of Chile/Singapore in specialty occupations. 6,800/year total
E-3 (Australia) Specialty occupations for Australian citizens. 10,500/year (rarely fills).
TN (NAFTA/USMCA) Professionals from Canada/Mexico in listed occupations (e.g., engineers). Unlimited.
H-2B (Temporary Non-Agricultural) Seasonal/temporary non-farm workers (e.g., hospitality). 66,000/year
O-1 (Extraordinary Ability) For individuals with exceptional talent in sciences, arts, etc.

Patrick says

4. It lowers house prices in California in particular, and California has severe TDS

FREMONT, CA <-- Ground Fucking Zero