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Let me get this straight. You like the possibility of having lots of these...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_United_States_Congress_by_longevity_of_service

The problem isn't those overly tenured "Elected" officials. The problem is the quality of political opponents in their primaries before the election.
To just callously call "Un Fair!" and demand their removal just because how long they have been there, is foolish. To what end, to end up with AOC or Latoya What's her race, "Injected" into the seat, because the people in those districts, didn't trust the opposition in previous elections, they wont blindly support him in an election stemmed from political manipulation, just because of preconceived ageism? Those voters will sit it out, and the Commies or Rinos will win.

If you really want change, then get involved with your local party and help be the gatekeeper of the quality of candidates that runs in the primaries and elections. 90% of every Primary challenger in most Republican districts around the country. Are professional candidates, they are given money to run, and hype the voters into thinking there are alternatives. But they don't spend one thin cent on campaigning or trying to get elected. They don't do one single television spot, they don't say one single negative word about the incumbents or how their policy would be better. If they even outline a policy.

I'm all for cognitive and even IQ tests for all elected officials and even potential candidates. But I'm 100% against blindly removing effective leadership, that has no realistic challengers in their hometown. And just throw them out, because some pimple faced punk let some boomer child molester convince them that old people are all dumb as fuck and how brilliant the FOMO generation is and can do better.

Piss the fuck off with that stupid shit. I would take Thomas Sowell even in his 90's over 90% of anyone in Congress under the age of 35.

The difference in me and folks who believe it, is they have been brainwashed by the media that hates Trump. Trump is past what anyone would call his prime. Do you really want a political system that would have saddled us with Kamala Harris, because Trump was too old to run?

Really? Low IQ much?

Chuck Grassley was a horrible example to make your point, just a piss poor option, horrendously stupid.

Chuck Grassley would be exhibit number fucking one, I would hold up to defend experienced candidates.

He's been a solid warrior compared to Lindsey Graham, and he is no where near the monster that Schumer and Pelosi are.
In fact, I would bet that if he, Schumer and Nancy had to take a cognitive test, he would be the only one that passed it.

Grassley is just more proof of the quality of candidates that run to oppose him. You don't actually think Grassley's office is manipulating local and state elections to keep his seat like Democrats do, do you? Unlike Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi and the like who actually do. It's the election security and integrity that is the most important issue facing our election today. Don't let the commies confuse you into thinking it's about old farts.
Have an honest election we can all believe in, then let those experienced candidates speak for themselves, by their win or lose.

Who is anyone from districts on the other side of the country, to dictate to voters in Grassley's district who to vote for?

And if Pelosi and Schumer and the like are actually being elected by their voters, then more power to them, but there still at least should be a cognitive test.

Grassley has done more to expose the hypocrisy and lies against Trump and has unmasked the DOJ weaponization against Trump more than anyone in Congress or the Senate. Jim Jordan, nor Matt Goetz says a damn word until Chuck Grassley spoke up.

Don't believe me go back and watch the congressional hearings all through Biden's term. He was the first to break ranks.

I didn't highlight Grassley. He's highlighted because he is still serving.

I'm 100% for fair honest elections that is 100% uncompromised. If people want to elect an old fart, then let them. There is never a good reason to stop someone from running for office. If the people want him/her, then give it to them. But all candidates should have to pass a series of tests to get credentials to even run for office. Civics, Cognitive, and a rudimentary IQ test, they don't have to be Thomas Sowell, but they can't be AOC.

GNL says

I didn't highlight Grassley. He's highlighted because he is still serving.

I don't accept Wiki as an argument exhibit ever. When I look at Wiki, it's usually about small facts about a subject. I hardly ever read the supporting topic articles. I will check out Wiki, about age or places they lived, who they were married to, the dates active, and for locations, just mostly geographic information.
Everything else is just curated propaganda and misinformation.
Like posting a list of people who has served more than 36 years, without providing context on any of them, their accomplishment and value, or in most cases, their deceit and fraud that kept them there. The bad ones were bad on day one, and stayed their because of the grifting skills they brought in 35 years ago. They didn't just figure out how to be villains on their 65th birthday.
Why +36 years, why not a filter for term numbers served?
It's a longevity page but Wiki want's to condition you that only 36 is a bad number. Pay no attention to the sophomore commies, Muslims, and syndicated gangsters.

I don't think anyone over 80 should be in office. "Wisdom" is useless after a while. Congress or executive branch you are a representative. Trump is unique having a younger kid, not grandkid. That's an exception, not the rule. My mom is educated and has a masters, to be blunt she's not smart.

I'd say around 65-70 years people start losing it. They're out of touch with modern business and things going on. I don't want to hear about Warren Buffet. He's a set and forget investor and makes a couple moves a year. All his early money is being compounded at this point. Not some genius. Math.

It's not about Wiki either. We literally just witnessed Joe Biden for 4 years as he turned 80. Until Trump goes I don't think you should ever hit the age of 80 in office. He should be the last one.

Much of this aging in politicians is the symptom of the Deep State achieving captive brand names then preserving them as expensive manufactured media objects and influencers by refusing to release them from Satan's treadmill. Aside from the occasional perverted orgy with blood drugs and human sacrifices, they don't even really get a chance much to 'enjoy' their corrupt wealth (most of which will be zipped back to the mother ship, anyway, upon their demise). Of course, we see select figures appearing suddenly different and younger as avatars to preserve the brand names and accumulated influences (keeping count of Nancy Pelosis is a Woo sport). What happened to the originals is likely death as per the fine print of the blood contract.

Also, they work under constant threat to themselves, their families and the various blackmails that hold them. Mitch the Turtle has been physically hosed at least twice in the last couple of years.

Tenpoundbass says

The difference in me and folks who believe it, is they have been brainwashed by the media that hates Trump. Trump is past what anyone would call his prime. Do you really want a political system that would have saddled us with Kamala Harris, because Trump was too old to run?

Trump is term limited. Term limits are not about age, they are about politicians being so firmly entrenched that nobody can afford to run against them and the politician is loyal only to donors. Term limits would not stop an older retired businessman from running.

I'm absolutely for a two term limit and 4yrs for both houses. That will solve some problems and stop retirement benefit wastes. Another is get rid off those superpac money laundering machines the worst corruption ever started.

WookieMan says

"Wisdom" is useless after a while.

Biden died long time ago. What you witnessed in the past 4 years was just muscle twitching.

HeadSet says

Trump is term limited. Term limits are not about age,

Besides term limits they also want age limits.

Tenpoundbass says

HeadSet says

Trump is term limited. Term limits are not about age,

Besides term limits they also want age limits.

Sounds good to me.

GNL says

Tenpoundbass says

HeadSet says

Trump is term limited. Term limits are not about age,

Besides term limits they also want age limits.

Sounds good to me.

I'm not going full blown senile remotely, but I've lost a step already at 41. There's a reason your 401k age for withdrawal penalty free is 59-1/2. You shouldn't be working a meaningful job.

If you have or had kids it's a lot. I don't mind it because I don't have to work 40-60 hours a week. If I had to I'd be miserable. You can learn a lot over time no doubt, but you don't learn new things that the 20-40 crowd is doing once you hit 60. Trump is extremely unique as I've said with a wide range of young and male and female kids. Baron literally is probably giving him tips.

Whether Biden is senile or whatever, he couldn't raise Hunter well. Your kids are a reflection of yourself. I believe Bo (not the right spelling) and his choice of wife before he died is another example. Then his other son fucks her. That's on dad in my world. Jill loved the Washington scene and was MIA as a mother as well.

He fucked up his family and we expect him to run the country at 80? I want Trump, but I still think the cap should be 76 at inauguration. It about power 99% of the time if you're that old. Not about country. Trump was the anomaly and we still have to see how that works out and if he gets anything done. He is aging.

WookieMan says

There's a reason your 401k age for withdrawal penalty free is 59-1/2. You shouldn't be working a meaningful job.

No the purpose for that was to allow the young sharp minds graduating from our fabulous learning institutions a shot at a job.
But now the young minds aren't sharp, and the education camps are churning out bigger idiots, and if they do get a job, they will fuck up the order, then cry that it's your fault.

There's really two issues at play here.

1) The Youth are being dumbed down, they have shrugged pragmatic thinking and problem solving. Therefore there's a quality issue of young candidates.

2) Election integrity, those older people that are the best thing going for their district are getting elected because no suitable challengers are available.
Then there's old buzzards, who have surrounded themselves, with highly skilled Election thieves, who's only on the payroll because they deliver a win in every election for 30+ years, by any means necessary. It matters not that the official is in a serious mental and physical decline, at this point. Their staff, are in full control and see the political corpse as their meal ticket. They are more to blame than the old bastard hanging in their way past his/her prime. Their tools of the trade are electronic voting, and no questions post election procedures, is the issue.

I don't see how any of these problems will fix themselves with term limits. You'll get rid of Chuck, Nancy and McConnel. But those entrenched staffers, will just pick a young spry candidate to rig and fix the election in their district to put them over.

If media did its job, candidates would have vigorous debates and interviews. Instead of applying a stop-gap measure (age), fix the root of the problem (hiding from the voters).

In 2048 the age to run for political office was capped at 67, and the minimum age to run for President was lowered to 27.
Raphael Martinez a 27 year old anchor baby, born to Guatemalan parents, in 2021 was the first anchor baby and 27 year old to be electronically selected for President. Raphael Martinez inauguration event was an intersection take over, with 1000 drifter cars on the Mall of America. Reports of 17 deaths from cars drifting into the crowd, and 5 from gunfire from an altercation over someone kicking a car, when it plowed into spectators.

Tenpoundbass says

Chuck Grassley would be exhibit number fucking one, I would hold up to defend experienced candidates.

Grassley is very smart unlike Biden.

Just go to the Senate hearings for Clarence Thomas nomination to the US Supreme Court about 35 years ago, and Biden sounded like a mumbling moron back then.

That's what I was tying to say in this thread. He's always been a moron that is a successful grifter and race hustler. These old farts just didn't learn how to rig the system a few years ago. They've been ill-suited for their positions since day one. They manage to stay there with crooked rigged blue city elections. That has been going on for 40 years or more. Just in 2020 they took it national.

Which I think they realize it will make it harder for them to bullshit their constituents going forward. People know what to look for and a more educated about how they steal the elections now. They got away with it for so long, the same way they pulled off 2020. Because until 2020, 80% of all voters thought the elections were secure and honest. Even many republican voters believed Biden won fair and square for the first two years of Biden's presidency. Until the facts kept coming out.

Tenpoundbass says

In 2048 the age to run for political office was capped at 67, and the minimum age to run for President was lowered to 27.
Raphael Martinez a 27 year old anchor baby, born to Guatemalan parents, in 2021 was the first anchor baby and 27 year old to be electronically selected for President. Raphael Martinez inauguration event was an intersection take over, with 1000 drifter cars on the Mall of America. Reports of 17 deaths from cars drifting into the crowd, and 5 from gunfire from an altercation over someone kicking a car, when it plowed into spectators.

2048?

SunnyvaleCA says

If media did its job, candidates would have vigorous debates and interviews. Instead of applying a stop-gap measure (age), fix the root of the problem (hiding from the voters).

I think we should all know by now that there are no solutions for any ingrained problems. We only get to choose from those they put in front of us.

Re age and cognitive abilities.

It’s individual based and only that. It’s possible to maintain incredible cognitive ability into old age in our modern society but one has to remain engaged. If you give up on life, if you stop learning, that’s when you start to lose cognitive ability. I’m 52 and have no problem concentrating, I learn fast as I ever have, and constantly seek out mental challenges.

One arena where the young have taken over is poker. Actually things went crazy in the early 2000’s after release of Rounders and then to the moon after Chris Moneymaker, a youthful amateur player, won the World Series of poker. When I started playing at poker rooms in LA in the mid 90’s, there were few people under age 30 and in Las Vegas at The Horseshoe and the Mirage, I was always the youngest person in the room, and by a lot. The World Series of Poker was almost all guys 40 plus years old with the occasional kid(Stu Unger in the early 80’s, Phil Helmuth in the late 80’s). Now…every final table is filled with guys under 30. They have passed up the “experienced” crowd, and by an awful lot. With the exception of the guys capable of still learning.

Doyle Brunson was a shining example. Won back to back World Series championships in the 1970’s, wrote the book considered the poker “Bible”, played in the highest stakes poker games in the world. In his 70’s he continued to play and win in the highest stakes poker game in the world and won multiple large poker tournaments against field of very young people, including a $1.1 million dollar win on a televised World Poker Tour multi day event. He remained sharp and respected as a poker player until he retired when he was 84.

I could cite many more, some of whom were failed by their physical ability but not their mind. I’m a huge Dodger fan. Vin Scully was fantastic in the broadcasting booth and once he retired very deep into his 80’s, he was bright enough to know he was going to kick the bucket soon and sold off his memorabilia to pass the money down to his family(if I was a family member I would have personally wanted the memorabilia). Sandy Koufax is now late 80’s and still brilliant and regularly attends opening day and other big games, despite residing in Florida.

I’m not saying I want old people to hang on forever. But idiots are usually already idiots before they get old(oh hai Mazie Hirono!). And most definitely I want no one but Donald Trump as President. The man is amazing at any age, but especially at this age.

i absolutely want age limit going forward. too many hospus patients out there and lifers. we need some fucking term limits too.

every congregation becomes corrupt, forcing change fixes it.

Tenpoundbass says

They got away with it for so long, the same way they pulled off 2020

All good points, and the Republican lawyers were ready for them in November 2024.

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