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BUT THEY DINDU NUFFIN!

Now you just have the ones on PatNet

Tenpoundbass says

There's one less asshole to worry about.

You take the word of the state department? Let's see what ELSE they've said over the years..

"There are weapons of mass destruction!"
"Babies are being ripped from incubators!"
"Al Quada did 9/11, look at the passport we found!" (no black box, no recognizable plane parts, audio saying to demo building 7)
"We killed Bin Laden and dumped his body in the ocean!"
"We assassinated terrorists!" (Whoops, it was a wedding party)

Gell Mann Amnesia, more diagnosed every day...

One less asshole would mean Israeli government won't use Jews as bait(at best), and helicopter and tank targets(at worst). Would mean they don't indiscriminately bomb women, children, and their own hostages. Would mean going after the real Hamas leadership, who doesn't even reside in Gaza. Would mean no more innocent people being hurt and killed.

Is any of that going to happen now? Or are we just continuing down the path that guarantees more of all the the above as long as people like you are willing to justify the worst atrocities as long as your side is carrying them out in your false dichotomy propaganda addled fantasy?

You are the Leftist you hate when you stoop to using their tactics.

NuttBoxer says

Is any of that going to happen now? Or are we just continuing down the path that guarantees more of all the the above as long as people like you are willing to justify the worst atrocities as long as your side is carrying them out in your false dichotomy propaganda addled fantasy?

That's where you are wrong, it's not my side. My side is world peace and anytime a nation can stand up to the CIA backed "Terror" apparati they deploy around the world I'm all for it. The folks in Palestine should out all of the Hamas members, and expose them. Rather than protecting them. They probably do so, because they are relatives on the CIA payroll to deliver Lindsey Graham another military contract for his state.
I'm all for putting an end to it at all cost. Then when that threat is gone and Israel has their country in order. They can go pound sand, keep their mouths shut and get along with their neighbors, or go the way of Hamas as well.

I'm more for peace than you are. Peace can to be messy in the short run. Would you rather another 60 years of innocent Jewish Israelis getting bombed in cafes and busses? I'm old enough to remember before they put the wall up. That was an every day occurrence.
Let the beatings continue until morale improves.

Nutboxer you do realize 10/7 was all about making Bibbi fall out of favor in Israel, so they can oust him. The judicial lawfare against him, ended in a fizzle and went no where. So now they have to stoop to this. It's no accident our press, and most of the Deep State are all for what Hamas did on 10/7, they did not reject what Hamas did for a minute. And immediately after they started calling for Netanyahu to step down, rather than avenging the massacre. The Biden admin has never once mentioned the American hostages. "Why is that?", ask your self.

Tenpoundbass says

The folks in Palestine should out all of the Hamas members, and expose them.

Let me explain what is going on.

The "leaders" of Hamas are Israeli operatives working to betray the Palestinians in Gaza. You know, like how our "leaders" are just fake bullshit puppets of the deep state.

Now whenever Israel murders somebody in Gaza, they just say "oh, that was a Hamas terrorists", just like when Obama murdered any group in a drone strike THEY were all terrorists.

Israel intends to retake Gaza, and will retake the West Bank entirely in time - what happens to the Palestinians, they don't care, die, leave, doesn't matter to them, it's not their problem. They may make them the problem of Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, etc, but it's not going to be their problem.

Do you remember a few years back when our propaganda claimed that "the 2nd in command of al-Qaeda was just killed today!", every fucking two weeks for a fucking year? Israel does the same stupid thing. It's just some guy they killed, may or may not have been a fighter, may have nothing to do at all with Hamas, just Israel says it, and you repeat it. Ever heard of him before? Who is in the "leadership of Hamas" now?

YEARS ago, when our bullshit fucking propaganda was claiming that the "2nd in command of al-Qaeda was killed", I started to try to find out who WAS the in the leadership then I could know the NEXT time the "2nd in command was killed" if it was actually the 2nd in command. I couldn't, because our government was just making that bullshit up as they went. Probably weren't even real names.

If you had ANY concept of just how often the government lies to you, and how pathetic our "news" media is really, how fucking complete cocksucking whores they are for the government, you might take a step back, and wonder - are they telling the truth about this current conflict? Have they told you the truth about ANY conflict? They're lying about this one two. I know there's only been EIGHT OF THEM they've lied about in the last 20 years, but how could you know this one they are lying about as well???

richwicks says

The "leaders" of Hamas are Israeli operatives working to betray the Palestinians in Gaza.

FFS - Islamists never have any agency or responsibility with some people. It is always the Jooos pulling the strings. Ismail Haniyah and Yahyah Sinwar are actually Israelis!

The conspiratorial Jew hatred is nothing new on the Left and Right. But the constant Islamist apologies is definitely a woke phenomenon by the AWFL's and Leftist LGBTQ blue-hairs.

So you're trying to tell me, that all of those AK-47 riffle shooting in the air Arabs screaming "Death to America!" and chopping off heads in public squares are just Jews LARPING on Palestinian soil right in front front of an adoring "li-li-li-li-li!" crowd?

Where in the Fuck is their Oscar??

Ever notice after 9/11 or 7/7 or 10/7 they all dance around, ulululate, and gift each other sweets, sugary cakes, dates, and cheesy kanafehs in their starving yet obese country?

But when they start getting bombed back, after a few weeks, all of a sudden it was Mossad responsible, a big fake false flag, and not the Holy Jihadi Martyrs that struck the Satans in the name of Allah and/or the Mahdi?

It's like clockwork.

But none of our "pattern seekers" turn their "Noticing" to that.

Because they believe foreign and Jihadi bullshit rather than MSM bullshit.

Nor when the US or Israel vacates huge swaths of controlled territory over to Arabs for peace.

socal2 says

FFS - Islamists never have any agency or responsibility with some people

You are good at selective quotes and purposely taking people out of context You didn't bother to include this:

richwicks says

The "leaders" of Hamas are Israeli operatives working to betray the Palestinians in Gaza. You know, like how our "leaders" are just fake bullshit puppets of the deep state.

Israel is engaging in collective punishment after having THEIR PEOPLE setup a false flag as a pretext. Like how 9/11 was used to get the dummies of our nation to sign up for 20 years of war.

Israel setup the attack against itself. They needed an excuse, a pretext, to take over Gaza. It was Israel's 9/11, done to the operation. They had their own proxies attack Israel. That's why they were able to train unmolested, this is why Israel funds Hamas, this is why elections aren't permitted in Gaza and there's been none since 2006, this is why the actual heads of Hamas are hanging out in Qatar and don't have to worry about being assassinated by Mossad.

Duh.

The dummies joining up with Hamas in Gaza are no different than the dummies that sign up to OUR military, but there is one difference, in our country, people are catching on to the scam which is why they have to scrape the bottom of the barrel and recruit these:



They will eventually figure it out themselves, but there is NO negotiating with Israel. Israel will never negotiate with the Palestinians in good faith, ever, and anybody that does will be assassinated just like Yitzhak Rabin was. The US isn't much different, they didn't kill Trump because he refused to start a new war, although they may have tried several times, but they are doing everything they possibly can to destroy him for not going along with the criminal syndicate.

I know it's super tempting to think "oh our leaders are incompetent, they couldn't screw in a lightbulb", they are VERY competent, they just don't work on behalf of the United States or you, this is blatantly obvious, but you can't face it because you've believed in the system all your life, so you'd rather deny it. Few people can look into the actual abyss.

So how many thousands of terrorists violated the Ceasefire agreement that was in place on October 6 ?????

And how many millions of Islamists celebrated these attacks ?????

The entirety of the elite caste is in a war for your mind.

Oh, and how many Islamist leaders have condemned the attacks on October 7 ????

Funny how that zero number just pops up.

Tenpoundbass says

So you're trying to tell me, that all of those AK-47 riffle shooting in the air Arabs screaming "Death to America!" and chopping off heads in public squares are just Jews LARPING on Palestinian soil right in front front of an adoring "li-li-li-li-li!" crowd?

Where in the Fuck is their Oscar??

THEY WERE PROVOKED!!!!!

richwicks says

Israel setup the attack against itself. They needed an excuse, a pretext, to take over Gaza.

I agree there was coordination with those in the Izzy government, and the US government with Hamas to plan and enable the attack. But the goal was not to take over Gaza, it was take out Netanyahu. They attacked Netanyahu during his last campaign with the same lawfare, our deep state is throwing at Netanyahu to stop him from serving again. He was reelected in spite of their efforts. The attacks were meant to make Netanyahu lose favor with his base in Israel. Even the boycotts were American Liberal donors trying to take down Netanyahu. Ben and Jerry's boycott, Sodastream they have had a hard on for Bibby since day one.

Tenpoundbass says

I agree there was coordination with those in the Izzy government, and the US government with Hamas to plan and enable the attack. But the goal was not to take over Gaza, it was take out Netanyahu.

I disagree with this, this help Netanyahu. He won't allow elections. He's a war criminal, like they all are, but he's also just a general criminal. If he leaves office, there's a very good possibility he retires in prison.

Netanyahu is a prime minister, he's picked by his party in a coalition, not directly voted in. Trudeau is the same in Canada. Benny Gantz was PM for about 5 minutes.

It's not the "deep state" that is against Netanyahu, the Israeli people hate him but not because he's killing Palestinians, he's fucking corrupt, and he's using the Israeli hostages as ONLY a pretext for war, and isn't trying to get them back. This conflict with the Palestinians is easy to solve, just create a fucking second state. Just have Israel declare their borders, it doesn't matter what the Palestinians want, just give them whatever Israel wants to give them.

Israel doesn't do this, they intend to take it all. They have had the ability to create a two state solution with NO negotiations for 40+ years now but if they did this 40 years ago, there wouldn't be a ton of settlements in the West Bank. They clearly intend to take everything in time.

Then they could have easily taken Gaza 40 years ago, but they didn't because they wanted to show they were not persecuting the Palestinians.

If they had done this the population of Gaza would have been only 431000 to move instead of 2.4 million.

Jeeez math is against your narrative.