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Epstein List Delayed


               
2024 Jan 2, 7:20pm   58,734 views  1,673 comments

by FreeAmericanDOP   follow (9)  

Rudy W. Giuliani
@RudyGiuliani
🚨 BREAKING NEWS: The Jeffrey Epstein Client List is now delayed until at least Jan. 22 after the court grants Jane Doe 107’s request for a 30-day extension claiming a "risk of physical harm in her country."

Yikes. It may never come out. Expect more of this.https://x.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1742380130486321587?s=20

Can't be Gislaine, she's in prison. Who? I'd say Kamala, but she's in DC.

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1650   Patrick   2025 Dec 2, 2:12pm  

https://palexander.substack.com/p/truth-is-emerging-that-epstein-did


Twenty years after Jeffrey Epstein was exposed for his child sex abuse enterprise, the Justice Department this week made a startling revelation. Rather than the “dozens” of victims previously alleged by the government and media, Justice now says that there were “over one thousand” victims.

Everyone is talking about Epstein again, from MAGA types furious that the Trump administration is not producing a supposed client list, to the mainstream media, which is giddily mocking just about anyone critical of the Justice Department here as conspiracy theorists.




It’s as if no one in power wants to deal with the substance of this scandal: that an industrial scale child abuse operation was taking place right under the noses of the countless household names with whom Epstein socialized. Now those same household names are ever so happy to cast the battle as a war between conspiracy nuts and the sober-minded adults, completely gliding over the obvious indictment here of the very high society of which they are a part.

What the Epstein case shows is that powerful men preying on the very young is condoned by high society, whether they’re a Republican or Democrat, an American or an Afghan warlord. And that’s why prominent people, from the government to the news media, seem to want this to go away.

As for Trump’s law enforcers and self-styled truth tellers who claim to be ending an era of politicization of the FBI and intelligence? It is entirely possible that in all the material they possess, there is no information about the johns. That’s because decades ago, they weren’t told to go after the men, or they decided not to. Either way, that’s the true cover-up, that no one was predisposed to investigate the perpetrators beyond Epstein and his staff, not in the Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden or Trump administrations.
1651   Patrick   2025 Dec 2, 2:13pm  

It was dozens, about 83 dozen.
1655   Patrick   2025 Dec 4, 8:03am  

https://apnews.com/article/epstein-maxwell-justice-department-sex-trafficking-0a5b9a48f93460e94e44a31e7bf67715


One of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell ‘s most vocal accusers urged judges on Wednesday to grant the Justice Department’s request to unseal records from their federal sex trafficking cases, saying “only transparency is likely to lead to justice.” ...

Farmer and other victims fought for the passage of the law, known as the Epstein Files Transparency Act. Signed last month by President Donald Trump, it compels the Justice Department, FBI and federal prosecutors to release by Dec. 19 the vast troves of material they’ve amassed during investigations into Epstein.

The Justice Department last week asked Manhattan federal Judges Richard M. Berman and Paul A. Engelmayer to lift secrecy orders on grand jury transcripts and other material from Epstein’s 2019 sex trafficking case and a wide range of records from Maxwell’s 2021 case, including search warrants, financial records and notes from interviews with victims.

“Nothing in these proceedings should stand in the way of their victory or provide a backdoor avenue to continue to cover up history’s most notorious sex-trafficking operation,” McCawley wrote in a letter to the judges.

The attorney was critical of the government for failing to prosecute anyone else in Epstein and Maxwell’s orbit.

She asked the judges to ensure that the orders they issue do not preclude the Justice Department from releasing other Epstein-related materials, adding that Farmer “is wary” that any denial could be used “as a pretext or excuse” to withhold information.


Sales of paper shredders are no doubt very high lately.
1657   Ceffer   2025 Dec 5, 10:21pm  

There were photographs circulating on the internet of bloody mattresses from the lower chambers of the island, before they started scrubbing evidence (FBI). One can only speculate on the activities of the origins. I imagine that in any real forensic exam, any blood as such would have been tested and DNA done.

However, internet scrubbing and evidence destruction are major activities of the official entities these days. It goes hand in hand with the assassination-plex, too.
1658   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Dec 5, 10:43pm  

The Alexander Guy left this part out:


This systematic review revealed no incriminating “client list.” There was also no credible
evidence found that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals as part of his actions. We did not
uncover evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties

https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1407001/dl?inline=

No Blackmail, no Client List. He just met with has beens and wannabes and directed investments from them to his friends and patron's accounts. He also wrote emails and messages like a retard.

Epstein did have interactions with Peter Thiel, Musk (!?), Bannon, and of course Gates and Bill Clinton (MSM grudgingly admits the last two, focuses on the first three)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/09/26/elon-musk-peter-thiel-steve-bannon-epstein-documents/86370319007/

Here is Epstein working with Bannon to try to rehab his name, and of course he hated Trump for banning him:
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/steve-bannon-jeffrey-epstein-comeback-consultant
1659   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Dec 5, 10:52pm  

The_Deplorable says






Business deals. Barak was out of office then and got Epstein and other Epstein associates to invest in Carbyne he was repping, as well as introduce him to officials from Cote d'Ivore. Barak in left wing and is part of the "permanent opposition" to Netanyahu.

Epstein also worked with Kashoggi, but Qatar doesn't want to associate their MB buddy with Epstein, heh.
1660   Patrick   2025 Dec 6, 2:46pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/epstein-victim-virginia-giuffres-multi-million-dollar-fortune-gone-missing-family-reveals/


The family of Virginia Roberts Giuffre, the most famous survivor of Jeffrey Epstein’s trafficking network and the woman whose testimony helped destroy former Prince Andrew’s public standing, is sounding the alarm after discovering that her multi-million-dollar fortune has mysteriously disappeared.

Giuffre, who endured years of abuse at the hands of Epstein’s elite circle and later secured major legal victories against Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, and former Prince Andrew, reportedly amassed around $22 million in compensation and settlements.

That includes an estimated $12 million payout from the disgraced former prince, now known only as Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor.

But according to new filings in Australia, where her estate is being processed, the money is essentially gone.
1661   Patrick   2025 Dec 6, 3:10pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/federal-judge-orders-epstein-maxwell-grand-jury-transcripts-unsealed-new-transparency-law-signed-trump/


A federal judge in Florida has just granted the Justice Department’s request to unseal grand jury transcripts related to child traffickers Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.

The order marks a major breakthrough in public access to long-hidden records connected to the Epstein network.

Judge Rodney Smith ruled Friday that the Epstein Files Transparency Act of 2025 overrides traditional federal grand jury secrecy rules and requires the release of all unclassified Justice Department material tied to the case.


Not good enough. We want the CLASSIFIED material most of all.

Calling the important documents "classified" is just more bullshit evasion of justice.
1663   Patrick   2025 Dec 9, 12:38pm  

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-game-theory-of-epstein


the game theory of epstein

transgression as alliance strategy

there are a number of useful salients here:

when seeking power/influence/to win the game, it pays to form alliances.

early formation of open alliances is a high risk strategy as it forces others to ally against you.

secret alliances sidestep this issue: you can coordinate to victory without generating a threat signal that causes others to coordinate against you.

transgression is a powerful means to cement a secret alliance because everyone involved

wants to keep it a secret because the transgression is problematic if discovered

will support all others in the group because of a form of “mutually assured destruction.” if anyone defects from the alliance, they get ruined. each holds a hammer above the head of each other.

such an alliance will hold together in direct proportion to how bad the consequences of being outed for the transgression are and how ruthlessly the people within the group deal with anyone who talks.

the first rule of “cabal club” is “if you talk about cabal club, we end you.”

this has profound intersection with the implications of a game theory construct called “werewolf.”

(video)

the core takeaway from werewolf is that small groups working in concert with the benefit of asymmetric information can easily run rings around larger groups. the werewolves almost always win.

as one who has played that game many times, the key to being a good werewolf is to constantly sow confusion and accusation, to set people up, make them look guilty, and then have others from your group corroborate it. this makes the villagers think they are getting independent sources of information when, in fact, they are not and are just getting spoon-fed falsity by a concerted cabal.

see now how a group bound together by some sort of transgression could be at once highly cohesive and highly effective?

there is, of course, a problem: just as in the game of werewolf, when a group acts together too many times, you start to spot them. the core process of the villager looking for lycanthropes is pattern assessment: who keeps working together with whom to wrongly accuse others or to defray suspicion?

the werewolves respond by sowing confusion. you eat the one who defended you or make random, unpredictable alliances and defenses, but this is a difficult game. real life is far easier because two paths are open to you:

1. recruit new wolves from among the villagers. (and if you have lots of filthy lucre to share, this is easy)
2. deny that there is such a thing as a werewolf. no one looks for what they do not know to look for or do not believe to be real. ...

how can a villager be sure to win at werewolf? by cheating. at night, you don’t close your eyes, you peek. now you know who all the werewolves are. you could reveal them and start picking them off, and at summercamp where nothing but bragging rights for winning was at stake, you might, but in the case of a powerful real-world cabal, if you can name them but have not, yourself, transgressed, you are now in a position of great power. you can make the wolfies dance to your tune. and they have to. you possess asymmetric ability to reveal them.

of course, doing this starts to be a transgression in its own right. the longer you let the “bad people” keep winning and being powerful so that you can wield the power and the longer you refuse to hold them to account for doing some bad thing, the more you yourself are doing a bad thing. and before too long, you too will be caught up in the mutually assured destruction and become yourself also unable to defect. your power over the wolves will fade and your risk of being called out as culpable will rise. ...

so we got our bill in congress and we’ve had dump after dump of redacted who knows what, but as the dec 19th deadline for “full release” nears, i would not hold my breath on smoking guns and big reveals.

we’ll get some damp squib and a bunch of hangdog “see, it was always kind of a nothing burger” and the squids will disappear into that ink and try to tell you that there’s no such thing as a cephalopod.
1664   Eric_Holder   2025 Dec 11, 2:59pm  

The Russian authorities are begging Trump not to publish the files of the pedophile billionaire Epstein: several top oligarchs and officials from Russia have been revealed at once. According to insiders, Moscow has intensified its pressure campaign on the US president and his inner circle in an attempt to get the White House to refuse to publish documents related to the case of the now-deceased financier Jeffrey Epstein... The Russian Federation does not want top Presidential Administration officials and major domestic billionaires to appear in the context of the case of the world's most famous pedophile... It is already known that Kirill Dmitriev, during a recent visit to the States, communicated with the US Department of Justice and the FBI in order to convince them not to publish Epstein's files or to cut out references to Russian officials and businessmen from them.
1665   The_Deplorable   2025 Dec 11, 4:07pm  

Eric_Holder says
"According to insiders... The Russian authorities are begging Trump not to publish the files of the pedophile billionaire Epstein: several top oligarchs and officials from Russia have been revealed at once."

This, in my thinking, is fake news.
1666   Patrick   2025 Dec 11, 4:19pm  

Yes, it sounds like the general desperation to pin bad things on Russia.

On the other hand, if it's true, I'm 100% for publishing it. I want ALL the Epstein evidence release and NOTHING marked "confidential" or "redacted" aside from covering the faces and T&A of the girls.
1667   Patrick   2025 Dec 13, 11:47am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/black-box-saturday-december-13-2025


Democrats dumped 92 handpicked photos out of more than 95,000. Why they didn’t produce the whole file is anybody’s guess. ...

The latest 92 photos included three of President Trump, from around 30 years ago. The first was a recycled shot that is already public and widely trafficked, showing Epstein and Trump at a 1997 Victoria’s Secret party in New York City. The other two show Trump with unidentified women, but not Epstein, and without any context. ...

In related news, three days ago, Politico ran a story headlined, “It’s official: All of the Epstein, Maxwell secret grand jury docs will now be released.” ...

After President Trump signed the Epstein Transparency Act into law, the DOJ went back to the two Epstein criminal cases (including the 2006 Florida case) as well as Ghislaine Maxwell’s, making three cases altogether. In each case, the DOJ asked each judge to authorize the release of all the sealed grand jury materials.

Between December 4th and December 10th, all three judges granted the request. Before the Act’s passage, the judges had all previously denied the DOJ’s same requests. (All are Democrat appointees.)
1668   Patrick   2025 Dec 14, 11:36am  

https://slaynews.com/news/comer-issues-warning-clintons-efforts-obstruct-testimony-epsteins-horrific-crimes/


Rep. James Comer (R-KY) just dropped a nuke by threatening contempt of Congress charges against Bill and Hillary Clinton over their refusal to testify in the Jeffrey Epstein investigation.

The House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, led by Comer, is digging deep into the sordid crimes of Epstein and his associate Ghislaine Maxwell, issuing subpoenas to the Clintons for testimony on their past ties to the disgraced financier. ...

“It has been more than four months since Bill and Hillary Clinton were subpoenaed to sit for depositions related to our investigation into Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell’s horrific crimes,” Comer stated firmly.

“Throughout that time, the former President and former Secretary of State have delayed, obstructed, and largely ignored the Committee staff’s efforts to schedule their testimony,” he added, not mincing words about their apparent foot-dragging.
1669   HeadSet   2025 Dec 14, 3:23pm  

Patrick says

“It has been more than four months since Bill and Hillary Clinton were subpoenaed to sit for depositions related to our investigation into Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell’s horrific crimes,” Comer stated firmly.

And do you know what it is going to be in another 4 months or even another 4 years? Its going to be no Clinton ever sitting for any disposition.
1670   FortWayneHatesRealtors   2025 Dec 14, 4:53pm  

I thought Congress voted to release everything? What happened?
1672   WookieMan   2025 Dec 14, 7:33pm  

HeadSet says

And do you know what it is going to be in another 4 months or even another 4 years? Its going to be no Clinton ever sitting for any disposition.

It's not even that, what is even going to happen if they do talk? Epstein is dead. If Maxwell talks it just turns into a he said, she said type thing. Same with victims or witnesses. Any Congressional committee would just be Hollywood type theater like the Jonny Depp trial. Has Amber Herd even paid a dime? The Clintons won't face any time. No one will.
1673   Patrick   2025 Dec 14, 10:01pm  

FortWayneHatesRealtors says

I thought Congress voted to release everything? What happened?


I believe they have until Dec 19th.

But that order excludes "classified" material, so you can be 100% certain that anything you'd want to see is now "classified" to protect the guilty.

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