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I don’t really think it matters what anybody’s stance is as the elites that control the Government have already decided what is going to happen. The sheeple will agree with this course of action after they have been appropriately programmed. Weapons of Mass Destruction and Conan Powell’s ‘cocaine’ vial in the UN stunt to launch the Iraq war are proof of that.

It seems to me like ever more people are becoming aware that the corporate media is nothing but 24/7 lies and propaganda controlled from the top.

Even the leftist nuts supporting Hamas are becoming aware that their views are never allowed on TV.

This means that a split in the left is rapidly forming, and that is a good thing for everyone on earth.

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I guess there was never a need for a UN peace keeping force next to or within boundaries of Gaza ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Interim_Force_in_Lebanon

This type of international peackeeeping force is what they should put in eastern Ukraine.

Hard to assimilate the Palestinians now as any Western country (as well as Egypt, etc) will not want to take on risk of bringing them in.

So what happens, they put those from Gaza in Palestinian refugee camps in southern Lebanon ?

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"So what happens, they put those from Gaza in Palestinian refugee camps in southern Lebanon ?"

Good question. Maybe Turkey will take some of them (they have experience w/ refugees from Syria). Maybe Egypt takes some. They already have about 250000 refugees from Sudan so far this year (a civil war that doesn't get any press coverage).

ad says

I guess there was never a need for a UN peace keeping force next to or within boundaries of Gaza ?

Dont want them because UN Peacekeepers sometimes report infiltrators. In Southern Lebanon, Hezbollah likes to set up their mortars and rocket launches a few meters away from the UN base so there's a good chance the Israelis will the outpost and they can scream "Zios kill Peacekeepers!" So the Israelis need to send a plane or drone to check, by which time Hezbollah has vamoosed. The Peacekeepers aren't allowed to shoot at Hezbollah to keep them away unless they are directly fired upon by them.

Misc says

Good question. Maybe Turkey will take some of them (they have experience w/ refugees from Syria). Maybe Egypt takes some. They already have about 250000 refugees from Sudan so far this year (a civil war that doesn't get any press coverage).

Egypt DEFINITELY doesn't want Palis, many (like Hamas) are Muslim Brotherhood members or offshoots. They will then start bombing Red Sea Resorts, Hotels with Tourists, and Coptic Churches.

The Lebanese Civil War was started by Pakistinians who moved there after expulsion from Jordan when they tried to overthrow King Hussein in "Black September" in the 1970s.

Jordan attempted overthrow by Arafat/PLO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September

After the Black September incident, Hussein kicks the PLO out of Jordan and the "Refugees" move into Lebanon and Syria. In Lebanon, Palestinians harass Marionite Christians and refuse to move aside for traffic at their newly consecrated "Church of Notre Dame de la Delivrance" Later, the PFLP comes back and opens fire on attendees at a baptism of an infant. This is what set off a chain that started the Lebanon Civil War.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Beirut_bus_massacre

This is also why Lebanese put Palestinians in walled ghettos, to stop their endless mischief. Syria does the same. It's why Egypt doesn't want them, either. Half a million found a home in Kuwait, but then the PLO backed Saddam's invasion of Kuwait and they got their asses kicked from there, too.

Palestinians were also involved in promoting the Tudeh/Communist party in the Iranian Revolution.

I hope they all kill each other.

Ceffer says

I warn everybody, I kiester gold.

you keep gold in your keister? Isn't that a bit uncomfortable?

AmericanKulak says

his is also why Lebanese put Palestinians in walled ghettos, to stop their endless mischief. Syria does the same. It's why Egypt doesn't want them, either. Half a million found a home in Kuwait, but then the PLO backed Saddam's invasion of Kuwait and they got their asses kicked from there, too.

Palestinians were also involved in promoting the Tudeh/Communist party in the Iranian Revolution.

So Palestinians don't do so well assimilating ?

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ad says

So Palestinians don't do so well assimilating ?

No US Flag at Trashida Taliban's office.


Aside from Linda Sarsour (with mic, above), what is that Zoolander 101 Dalmatans Cruella with the Sanctuary City sign, damn?


RFK Assassin and Socialist Sirhan Sirhan.


Justin Amash, first Palestinian in Congress. First Republican to call for Trump's Impeachment. Amash family made a fortune outsourcing Michigan businesses to CHYna, huge fan of open borders and unlimited one-way imports.

AmericanKulak says

RFK Assassin and Socialist Sirhan Sirhan.

Sirhan Sirhan didn't murder RFK, he was killed by the same people that killed his brother. The Kennedy family knows this.

richwicks says

Sirhan Sirhan didn't murder RFK,

how did they come up with the cool name?

2nd only to Che at the time, and very popular with 70s-80s era Leftists and especially Gender Studies majors, Leila Khalid, First Female Hijacker. Soviet-backed militant socialist 'liberation' group: Popular Front for Liberation of Palestine. She also hijacked planes for the attempted PLO coup against Jordan's King Hussein.

Campaigns for BDS now.





I hate this fucking timeline.

komputodo says

richwicks says

Sirhan Sirhan didn't murder RFK,

LOL Dude was fing tackled (and later protected from the enraged crowd) by Rosey Grier. Not even the conspiracy theorists deny Sirhan Sirhan shot at RFK twice, they think there was a second gunman.
https://www.pbs.org/wnet/pioneers-of-television/video/rosey-grier-on-the-kennedy-assassination/

AmericanKulak says

richwicks says

Sirhan Sirhan didn't murder RFK,

LOL Dude was fing tackled (and later protected from the enraged crowd) by Rosey Grier. Not even the conspiracy theorists deny Sirhan Sirhan shot at RFK twice, they think there was a second gunman.

yeah seems irrefutable sirhan sirhan shot a gun in the room with rfk there

the claims are he was not the only one who shot a gun in the room when rfk was there

i've even read claims sirhan sirhan was some patsy like had been under cia mind control such as through mk ultra

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AmericanKulak says

LOL Dude was fing tackled (and later protected from the enraged crowd) by Rosey Grier. Not even the conspiracy theorists deny Sirhan Sirhan shot at RFK twice, they think there was a second gunman.

There are several members of the Kennedy family that don't believe he was the killer, and he probably wasn't. The CIA probably drugged him up on something like Rohypnol. He was running for president and was probably going to win, and if he did, he would have certainly reopened the case on the death of his brother which was ABSOLUTELY done with the help of the US intelligence agencies.

MAYBE the intelligence agencies just got fucking lucky that a Palestinian Christian decided to murder him, but I doubt it.

ad says

the claims are he was not the only one who shot a gun in the room when rfk was there

The autopsy report (surprisingly frank) said RFK was killed by a bullet into the back lower skull area, whereas Sirhan was pointing and squeezing the trigger from the angled front more or less at random. Apparently, target practice for MKUltras isn't that successful, they tend to be patsys and distractions from the real assassin.

Just pointing out that Hamas killed everyone they could find, including Muslim paramedics.

No point in talking with somebody suffering from sports team affiliation disorder.

No decapitations, here's a burned one.


Can't tell if decapitated but definitely murdered.

Booger says

South Korea was right to commit troops to the Korean War, but wrong to commit troops to Vietnam, wrong to commit troops to the first gulf war, wrong to commit troops to Afghanistan, wrong to commit troops to any efforts in Iraq, right to counter piracy in Somalia.

richwicks says

South Korea was right to commit troops to the Korean War,

South Korea is deployed as UN peacekeepers in southern Lebanon.
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I'm feeling sorry for the innocent in both sides, children growing up in war torn areas have such a hard life. Meanwhile kids here are being brought up like the entitled genderqueer useless privileged asstards they will become. Hearing ads about 'toxic stress'. Wtf?! They don't even have proper homework let alone detention anymore. 2 and 3 year olds throwing tantrums everywhere if not entertained by their monkeys 24/7, and it's being normalized. Same for looting and stealing. But it's hard knox with me, fuckers. lol

Patrick says

Just pointing out that Hamas killed everyone they could find, including Muslim paramedics.

They are not easy to call apart and these animals weren't into thorough investigation of their victims identity anyway. The number of foreigners killed along with the Jews speaks volumes.

ad says

richwicks says

South Korea was right to commit troops to the Korean War,

South Korea is deployed as UN peacekeepers in southern Lebanon.
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I don't know enough about the situation to make any judgement on it. I think it's best, generally, is for South Korea to work for the interest of South Korea, and I don't see how being deployed in Lebanon helps South Korea, but they may have economic interests there.

I largely believe that non-intervention is best. There ARE different cultures, let the cultures themselves and people of those nations figure out what they consider best.

I believe the best weapon is actually true information, even if it comes in the form of propaganda, but it has to be correct, and it has to be discoverable to be true. Fine - produce propaganda. True propaganda is just stating a conclusion without entirely explaining the logic outright, the logic can be convoluted and difficult to understand, that has to be produced as well but it doesn't have to be produced upfront. False propaganda is a lie, where there is no logic, and no possibility to explain the logic, because there is none.

someone please reminds us why israel is so important to the average working class american tax slave?

RWSGFY says

Patrick says

Just pointing out that Hamas killed everyone they could find, including Muslim paramedics.

They are not easy to call apart and these animals weren't into thorough investigation of their victims identity anyway. The number of foreigners killed along with the Jews speaks volumes.

Look, the IDF kills Americans all the time. They are all the same. The IDF kills Palestinians and their children, all the time.

Where is the negotiation? Where are the diplomats? Gaza is 141 square miles, and has about 2.37 million people. 2,370,000 / 141 miles = 16,800 people per square mile. Imagine living in that density, and that's AVERAGE density. It really is an open air prison. A mile is just 5,280 feet. A square mile is 2,7878,400 square feet. 27,878,400 / 16,800 = 1,659 square feet per person.

Ever seen the film Dredd? It's as dense as that, and it's AVERAGE.

Maybe my math is wrong. If it is, somebody point it out. If it's not wrong, and I don't think it is, imagine living in that tiny space ALL YOUR LIFE. Many people born in Gaza have never left it, ever.

Imagine going through life, and never seeing a wilderness, never seeing a forest, or even a park. You ever look at Gaza on a satellite map? I don't think I could live in such density, and the density is even worse, you will find farmland in Gaza, but certainly that doesn't support all of Gaza. People condemn Hamas, understandably, but what is creating these conditions? I think the normal human human animal doesn't really have any empathy or compassion. If I was in similar conditions, and I'm certainly not, I'd be as violent, easily.

AmericanKulak says

No decapitations, here's a burned one.


Can't tell if decapitated but definitely murdered.

If you like I can show you countless examples of Palestinian babies killed. I don't see why people only present one side. It's psychopathic.

richwicks says

Imagine going through life, and never seeing a wilderness, never seeing a forest, or even a park. You ever look at Gaza on a satellite map? I don't think I could live in such density, and the density is even worse, you will find farmland in Gaza, but certainly that doesn't support all of Gaza. People condemn Hamas, understandably, but what is creating these conditions? I think the normal human human animal doesn't really have any empathy or compassion. If I was in similar conditions, and I'm certainly not, I'd be as violent, easily.

The Palestinians in Gaza are a prisoner also of the past. Because of the past (and very recent as in the last 5 days), no other country wants to take them in. Its a risk and its not all economic risk as well.

So they are stuck there in their prison like the inhabits of Manhattan Island in the movie Escape from New York, or the penal colony on Australia about 220 years ago.

Richie, if Mohammed never existed and Islam never became a religion, would there be much difference between the Palestinians and the Sephardi Jews of today ? A lot of those Sephardi Jew could pass as offspring of Yasser Arafat.

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my guess is that once the Palestinians control Israel if it becomes a one-state solution then they would put gradual pressure on those non-white looking Jews to convert to Islam ... the same pressure over the last 1300 years with "converting" the population to Islam (i.e., "submit" under jihad)

that is why Israeli Jews are worried about demographics war and tries its best to support a two state solution, at least superficially

ad says

Richie,

Grow up. Show me some amount of respect, even if you don't respect me.

ad says

if Mohammed never existed and Islam never became a religion, would there be much difference between the Palestinians and the Sephardi Jews of today ? A lot of those Sephardi Jew could pass as offspring of Yasser Arafat.

Who knows? Who cares?

They have similar skin color, that's not the problem. It's cultural differences, and there's no attempt to bridge the gap. Fuck them both at this point. Neither side will do honest negotiation.

I hope the Samson Option is done. Fuck them all. I'm tired of this bullshit. Both cultures are a drag on the world. Make all of Israel a prison. Bomb their airports, put up a wall around all of it, kill anybody that tries to get out, and just completely isolate them. All that has to be done is Egypt, Jordan (the largest) Syria, and Lebanon needs to build a wall. Blow up all the fucking airports, put an embargo on the Mediterranean Sea and forget about them.

There - problem solved. This stupid shithole nation shouldn't be a world concern.

I'm tired of their fucking whining, their kvetching, all their bullshit. It's nothing but endless bullshit. It's 10 million people, and I'm supposed to care? It's a population smaller than NYC. I'd rather worry about NYC. I'm tired of this squeaky wheel.

My nation is obsessed with this shithole country. Fuck 'em. It's not our problem.