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Best solution: both groups should just go the fuck home and fight it out there.

RWSGFY says

Best solution: both groups should just go the fuck home and fight it out there.

Are you saying it is ok to kick out all christians from India since they do the same thing over there?

indc says

RWSGFY says

Best solution: both groups should just go the fuck home and fight it out there.

Are you saying it is ok to kick out all christians from India since they do the same thing over there?

All I'm saying keep your shit back there. We don't want your stupid fighting here and sure don't want to sacrifice our freedom of speech in hope that you maybe stop killing each other here. What you do back home is your business, but we might pull back on trade and other relations if you start some genocidal shit.

ZipperTits says

The Indians can do whatever the fuck they want internally as far as I am concerned. It is called National Sovereignty for a reason.

great point in fact. Unfortunately west mainly UK, US divide India and have a base called Pakistan and let all Hindus get killed and continue proxy war with Muslims and does not recognize India's sovereignty in practice. Look at there are so many NGOs and $B of money flow run by west to control every aspect of the country. It's still a colonial slave state by design. There is some hope that in recent years slaves are waking up first time and voting Right-wing political party and showing some progress. If that continues one can expect liberation from the Muslims, West and Commies.

ZipperTits says

Who fucking cares if it is 'recognized' or not?

you are right, India is so spineless that they do not protect its own people just to please foreign powers. Also this discussion should not be on PatNet.

@indc I don't like the way FarmersWon is constantly insulting Hindus. He's not seeking any kind of peace or mutual tolerance, it's just pure hate all the time.

On the other hand, he's not saying "Kill the Hindus" and he's not personally attacking other users on the site.

I don't like to censor anything, because censorship is used against this site and thousands of other sites which disagree with the leftist oligarchy.

It's kind of a dilemma.

21 users just ignore FarmersWon and that seems to be a reasonable way to handle it.

Patrick says

@indc I don't like the way FarmersWon is constantly insulting Hindus. He's not seeking any kind of peace or mutual tolerance, it's just pure hate all the time.

On the other hand, he's not saying "Kill the Hindus" and he's not personally attacking other users on the site.

I don't like to censor anything, because censorship is used against this site and thousands of other sites which disagree with the leftist oligarchy.

It's kind of a dilemma.

21 users just ignore FarmersWon and that seems to be a reasonable way to handle it.

hes very odd yeah. this site has nothing to do with hi dus

https://twitter.com/TimesNow/status/1572604027896201216

Video discussing what Indian state should do instead of bending backwards to left-liberals and islamofasits.

https://twitter.com/ARanganathan72/status/1572609201884758017

Video explaining how hinduism is being demonised all over west because of left-liberals.

Patrick says

21 users just ignore FarmersWon and that seems to be a reasonable way to handle it.

Sounds fair to me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac1QVgBWBBo

Series of events happening in Leichester hindu community.

Cricket match between Pakistan-India. India won and fans teased each other. When they were out on the street One person(Sikhi like @FarmersWon) pulled Indian flag from a Indian fan and desecrated it. They fought with each other. Which is explained as the trigger point for these events, but it was not.

Hindus in Leicester were celebrating Ganesh pooja at their home. Muslims went and threw eggs at them. Again No media coverage on this issue.

Muslims(ISIS activist) then starts giving interviews that hindus attacked a mosque which was shown in media. Police later denied it happened no coverage in media.

Muslim mobs from different cities came to leicester and intimated whole neighborhood with attacking any house or car with hindu symbols. No media coverage.

Muslims said a muslim-girl was kidnapped by few hindus and a car number was provided when checked it was found that the owner of the car was vacationing in europe at that time.

After 1 month of this constant harrasment hindus got together to protest against it and passed through a muslim-dominated area. Using this as a reason they attacked a temple and damaged it in Leicester.

And then another muslim mob attacked temple in Birmingham.

Police arrested few from muslim mob. Even though they found them guilty their sentence was commuted and are free to go.

Can we put a limit on the number of Hindu threads per day? maybe just 1?

I think Patnet is a strange place for all this stuff.

Patrick says

21 users just ignore FarmersWon and that seems to be a reasonable way to handle it.

Exactly correct. Thank you Patrick.

RWSGFY says

All I'm saying keep your shit back there. We don't want your stupid fighting here and sure don't want to sacrifice our freedom of speech in hope that you maybe stop killing each other here. What you do back home is your business, but we might pull back on trade and other relations if you start some genocidal shit.

Above set of events shows even if you are peaceful, people like @RWSGFY and @Zippertits will still say go back to your shithole country. And threaten us for even pointing out the unfairness in their approach.

My point for this thread was Freedom-of-speech is like a gun, which needs to have a safety. You cannot use your freedom-of-speech while holding a stick. With great power comes great responsibility. You can have your freedom to offend someone but can he/she offend back without you giving threats?

indc says

Above set of events shows even if you are peaceful, people like @RWSGFY and @Zippertits will still say go back to your shithole country.

Strawman argument. E for the effort.

From what I’ve seen from Indians I’ve met and know, they’re shameless self-promoters, but also shameless brown-nosers to anyone in authority. Authority trumps everything for an Indian. Might makes right, so they’re as likely to idolize Hitler as to idolize a left-winger like Trudeau or an authoritarian like Biden. It’s just centuries of living under someone else’s rule, baked into the Indian culture at this point.

Anyway that’s annoying, and they’re racist as all fuck, which is also annoying. But otherwise I can live with Indians. But I have no room in my heart for Indians who come here and then try to usurp the fundamental rules that built America. Freedom of speech is a bedrock principle of a democratic Republic, and you can’t have one without the other: not for long. Take away freedom of speech and you’re totalitarian within a generation.

indc says

My point for this thread was Freedom-of-speech is like a gun, which needs to have a safety. You cannot use your freedom-of-speech while holding a stick. With great power comes great responsibility. You can have your freedom to offend someone but can he/she offend back without you giving threats?

Again, you miss the point completely: you can say whatever you want and fundrise for whatever cause here, but the moment you want to physically fight your opponent "from back there" - you should consider doing it there, not here.

Look at the Irish: they raised shitload of money for the IRA in the US, but never did anything kinetic on this soil, only back home. I see no running gun battles on US streets between Russians and Ukrainians either. But you fucking fucks think it's ok to get at each other throats in fucking Leicester and then blame OUR freedom of speech?

Eric Holder says

Again, you miss the point completely: you can say whatever you want and fundrise for whatever cause here, but the moment you want to physically fight your opponent "from back there" - you should consider doing it there, not here.

Look at the Irish: they raised shitload of money for the IRA in the US, but never did anything kinetic on this soil, only back home. I see no running gun battles on US streets between Russians and Ukrainians either. But you fucking fucks think it's ok to get at each other throats in fucking Leicester and then blame OUR freedom of speech?

Did you read my explanation of what is happening in Liecester UK? Hindus did not do anything and they are targeted. UK Police is just letting the perpetrators go. My question to you is why is your feedom of speech more valuable than a hindus living in UK? The news media is spreading lies against hindus and Hindus cant even counter it or defend against them.

EDIT: Also I think you got me confused with @FarmersWon. He is the one who wants funds like Irish. You racist You :). Using your point its like Irish in US attacking british citizens here is what he wants.

Shaman says

From what I’ve seen from Indians I’ve met and know, they’re shameless self-promoters, but also shameless brown-nosers to anyone in authority. Authority trumps everything for an Indian. Might makes right, so they’re as likely to idolize Hitler as to idolize a left-winger like Trudeau or an authoritarian like Biden. It’s just centuries of living under someone else’s rule, baked into the Indian culture at this point.

Anyway that’s annoying, and they’re racist as all fuck, which is also annoying. But otherwise I can live with Indians. But I have no room in my heart for Indians who come here and then try to usurp the fundamental rules that built America. Freedom of speech is a bedrock principle of a democratic Republic, and you can’t have one without the other: not for long. Take away freedom of speech and you’re totalitarian within a generation.

My point was the freedom of speech is one sided in west. I did not say your freedom of speech should be curbed, that is a leftist idea. What I am asking is does everyone get same "freedom of speech" power?

Indc I understand your point but you are missing one point that India is strange Islamic county where Muslims are on the way to be majority soon. If non-Muslims don’t wake up now, the current Hindu genocide will accelerate and assimilate like 2 Islamic neighbors and eventually make even bigger s*h* for the world. Or may be easier for the world to nuke the whole area.
Failing to self protect Hindus is not anyone fault. India must send all Muslims to their Gandhi countries aka Pakistan, Bangladesh or lawfully execute them as no one follows law of land. In the second case no country complains too. Look at China how peaceful they are executing flawlessly. Have you heard any serious complaints on China including Muslims. In fact China is getting great respect in reality.
I think I said before, I happen to passing through a bunch of Sikhs and their violent protest in SF against India. Each and everyone can make a suicide bomber literally. I am not exaggerating, they look like are born and raised in US. I seriously doubt if anyone ever visited India. Till that point my understanding on Sikhs was different. I realized Sikhs are new Muslims. Now they are a threat to Canada and soon to US. They never integrate into mainstream. Even if they looks like they did, can disintegrate and take u turn. These cultures are not just annoying but extremely dangerous for now and for future generations in hosting countries.
I suggest you ignore Sikhs unless you know more personally.
Also like others mentioned this site is not the right one for Indian related as it mainly focus on US issues. my 2c

indc says

Patnet is into supporting freedom of speech. But we can see how it is mis-used and should not be considered absolute. It should not be forced on to others without proper checks and balances.

How do you "force" free speech onto someone? Use a gun to keep them there while you yell? Detaining someone against their will is already a crime. If you don't like what someone says, don't listen to them, and if it really bothers you, don't be around them. But they have the right to say it. No matter how fucked up their beliefs...

Now if you're talking about swearing or graphic language in front of children, that's the one time I can think of where a parent can physically intervene if they can't get their children out of ear-shot in time. But any other situation, it's censorship, and communism.

Shaman says

Anyway that’s annoying, and they’re racist as all fuck, which is also annoying. But otherwise I can live with Indians. But I have no room in my heart for Indians who come here and then try to usurp the fundamental rules that built America. Freedom of speech is a bedrock principle of a democratic Republic, and you can’t have one without the other: not for long. Take away freedom of speech and you’re totalitarian within a generation.

Dammit, where's my chart that shows that Indians are 4-5x more likely to say they prefer NOT to live with other ethnicities or religions than Americans.