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Ceffer says

Is this clone stuff another DARPA 'flat earth' infiltration propaganda to mock our perceptual capabilities and gullibilities? There are likely apocryphal reports of the oligarchs and Globalists manufacturing clones for transplants and repair stem cells and tissues. You know they would do it if they could.

Maybe, but it's been around for a while.

I listen to the same stuff you do, but with a much higher level of suspicion. If I'm having trouble getting to sleep, I'll put on Cliff High or Jim Willie, because they are entertaining and nothing they say do I have to pay attention to.

Dolly the Sheep was just in 1996. In order to grow a full clone to adult level, there would have to be accelerated aging and education. The oldest would be around 20 now.

Conceptual barrier for me is the stratospheric complexity of biologic systems and the alleged transfer of consciousness at the same general level and age of the target entity. Brain tissue is not a computer that can just take a dump of information into a tabula rasa, it is in a complex, evolved condition, a kind of one way street or biologic cul de sac of nature.

Like I said, if cloning exists, it requires an alien technology and possibly inter-dimensional and time/space tek to implement.

One of the Globalist obsessions with Antarctica is the (alleged) presence of alien architecture and technology down there, including a kind of black alien goo that is also allegedly an instigator of clone propagation.

There is a very strange Iceland series on Netflix called Katla, in which an erupting volcano that has devastated an area under study causes an ancient substance to emerge from volcanic caves which starts creating clones of people and animals aka. a missing sister, a (possibly murdered by parenticide) sociopathic child, old lovers born again as young, sheep, crows etc.

Ceffer says

There is a very strange Iceland series on Netflix called Katla, in which an erupting volcano that has devastated an area under study causes an ancient substance to emerge from volcanic caves which starts creating clones of people and animals, a sister, a (possibly murdered by parenticide) sociopathic child, old lovers born again as young, sheep, crows etc.

Look, the black goo was entertaining in the X-Files as well, but the series ultimately was going nowhere with it.

I hear this stuff all the time about alien technology and that technologies I WORKED ON were created by an alien civilization. Stuff like in the 1960's DVD Roms were common place in military outposts and so on. I've seen the actual development of a LOT of stuff. From MP3 to H.265 - I missed out on floppy disks, but I was around for DVD and BluRay. I've worked on computer chips you use.

If we had access to alien tech, you would NOT ever have used the x86 processor, it's a boondoggle of a design. ARM, or something very similar, would have been the victor.

We are obviously developing this stuff, because it's SO FUCKED UP what "won". Marketing wins, not superior engineering design. You have no idea what a clusterfuck of shit has been pulled together to make your phone work, or computer. I've seen the HORRIBLE development of languages, C has FUNDAMENTAL faults in its design. It's pretty easy, for example, to allocate a block of memory with supporting hardware that makes it IMPOSSIBLE to go beyond the boundary of an array. That alone would eliminate 99% of the vulnerabilities of your computer.

You see a clean, mostly working, system and think it's near perfection. It's anything but. A species able to do interstellar travel, they wouldn't be using the garbage we're working with. This is a massive shitball that we've gotten to work, it's FAR from perfect. It looks clean and high tech and well designed. It's anything but. It wouldn't be this way if we were copying technology. If we had to setup the plants and fabs to design it, setup engineering groups to do it, we'd fix 1/2 of this shit at least.

Let me give you an idea of fundamental errors. The reason the disk drive on the C=64 was so fucking slow is there was an error in the hardware that allowed data integrity verification. As a result, they offloaded the computation to the computer instead and ignored the hardware validation. The "fast loaders" in that day, just ignored the data integrity check, which sped up the data transfer like 8 times. The reason DirectX exists is that it was realized GPU manufacturers had a hard time perfecting their hardware, so DirectX did a complete simulation of all functions in a video card in software. When a bug was found in the hardware, it was offloaded to software. This DRASTICALLY reduced the cost of hardware validation of the GPUs and that was the end of Irix. When there were bugs in the card, they just had the CPU do it. Buggy shitty horrible hardware could be produced cheaply, it didn't matter if the GPU had hardware bugs, DirectX worked around them. The ONLY brilliant thing that I think Microsoft did. Everything else, was worse.

The Woo states that aliens might hand us a working technology (like giving cave men a bunch of cell phones and a broadcast tower) but withhold or sabotage the means of manufacturing and reproducing that technology. However, once you see that something exists, it is a powerful motivator to attempt to duplicate it.

Indian mythology (of which J. Robert Oppenheimer was a fan) cites sky battles and destruction which point to monkeys (us) as compatriots of aliens (them) being embroiled in wars which destroyed civilizations.

There are some perfectly sane and coherent scientists working for the weapons labs who came to believe that Mars had incipient civilization that was nuked with devices high in the atmosphere. They even state that two nukes were detonated at opposite poles of the planet to purposely destroy everything on the surface and the atmosphere. They derive this from all of the datas of various radioactive remnants and informations left on the surface picked up by the various rovers.

Ceffer says

There are some perfectly sane and coherent scientists working for the weapons labs who came to believe that Mars had incipient civilization that was nuked with devices high in the atmosphere. They even state that two nukes were detonated at opposite poles of the planet to purposely destroy everything on the surface and the atmosphere. They derive this from all of the datas of various radioactive remnants and informations left on the surface picked up by the various rovers.

Name one.

Mars is a rock that has 1/3rd the gravity of Earth. It probably had a reasonably thick atmosphere at one point, but it appears it disappeared through a massive asteroid impact and there's very good evidence of this because of the shape of Mars. It doesn't have a magnetic field which the Earth does that prevents our atmosphere from being scattered into space, and it's also thought that our atmosphere was FAR denser a billion years ago, kind of like Venus' atmosphere.

It's FUN to speculate on this stuff, but it's just fun. Anyhow - trust me, all the tech you see today, we developed. Crap you use might seem nearly magical but if I explained how it worked, you'd find it tedious to understand it although EVERYBODY has the capability to understand it, it's simple. When you get down to it, a computer is very simple, so fucking simple that to build the more complex things on top of it is absolutely tedious. We had to develop abstractions for it, because we didn't want to build the guts over and over and over again. It's like this, imagine if I had to communicate with you by forming every letter, manually, pixel by pixel in this message. If I had to draw each letter manually, not even using a mouse, but using a joystick and a fire button. That's what it's like to work in the low level of hardware or software.

I understand precisely how a computer works, and I would make you cry in boredom or try to commit suicide if I forced you to listen to me explain it. It takes a crazy person to really be interested in it, and once the crazy person understands it, it's "oh, that's simple, I never knew!" Once you understand it, everything is simple and obvious, but boy it's difficult to go through that process to understand it - and there's dead ends to learning too. I just wanted to know how a computer and a television worked when I went into electrical engineering, I didn't give a damn about npn and pnp junctions, cotangent functions, breakdown voltages, statistics, quantum mechanics, or any of that other shit - it all plays a part, if you're MAKING the chip as material scientist. I can't build a chip from quartz but I was being taught how to.

I do think it is quite possible that Clif High is seriously punking, trolling and pranking the Woo crowd with the clone stuff, and isn't serious about the cloning actually being true. He has been developing a habit of wanking quite a bit on many of the other various offbeat pundits on the web, and this may just be some of that.