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stereotomy says

I'll have to start doing my research on handguns. With the ammo situation, I'll probably have to stick to the most common rounds. I figure one for me and one for the wife. Decisions, decisions . . .

The FBI did an extensive study on what the best overall defensive round was and they decided the 9MM was it.

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

I expect it will take more lawsuits for California to comply. We have a commie super majority in our house and senate and californians in general are super I’ll informed and mostly retarded so that will be an issue as well.

yeah laws haven't been changed here at all. so will require lawsuits to remove them. if you want a permit, you really can't get one unless you are a police officer or well connected rich person. I carry without a permit for that reason.

Even once concealed/open carry becomes legal for all in CA again, I'd still be hesitant to shoot someone. From what I've seen, its not intuitive what you must do when defending yourself to avoid getting prosecuted for murder. This seems intentional - a trick to discourage defensive gun ownership.

Of course, I'd rather take my chances landing in prison than a casket.

Hircus says

Even once concealed/open carry becomes legal for all in CA again, I'd still be hesitant to shoot someone. From what I've seen, its not intuitive what you must do when defending yourself to avoid getting prosecuted for murder. This seems intentional - a trick to discourage defensive gun ownership.

Of course, I'd rather take my chances landing in prison than a casket.

Now THAT is something that should go to the supreme court to decide...the rules under what constitutes "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness". The Life part needs some clarification of when you can and cannot defend it. We used to shoot cattle rustlers on site legally.