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Thomas Massie


               
2022 May 31, 5:00pm   26,319 views  374 comments

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Thomas Massie, U.S. House Kentucky District 4, Republican

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315   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 4, 5:19pm  

Today is a good day to remind everyone who funds Thomas Massie, especially since one of his backers has ties to the Epstein family.

When President Trump calls out Massie & has a PAC set up to run ads against him, it's for good reason & not just because he's an obstructionist RINO. Granted, this was the catalyst, but it goes much deeper than that.

Topics covered in this thread:

1) The "not backed by AIPAC or Zionist money" is a ruse. He is backed by Jeffrey Yass who backs Club For Growth, an organization mostly full of Zionists & ironically, one of Massie's largest donor to date. If you still think Massie is not taking any Zionist money or doesnt have anytging similar to an "AIPAC Guy", well, I've got a beachfront property in Nebraska to sell to you.

1) He does not care about the Epstein victims; this is all about political points for him. He has taken money from Bill Gates, who used his son as a proxy. Bill always does this when he doesn't want to give money directly. He doesnt just use his son to do this, either. He also gave money to Rand Paul through the same means. Bill Gates was one of Epstein's most notorious clients. Thomas Massie also promised to launch an investigation into a potebtially massive scandal involving members of Congress. What happened to that?

3) Massie being the most conservative member of the House is also a ruse. He takes money from Leftist PACS, such as Masimo Corp. This PAC previously only backed Libertarian-leaning Conservative candidates. That all changed in 2024 when they backed Hakeem Jeffries, Jamaal "Fire Alarm Guy" Bowman & Ro Khanna. Does that last name ring a bell?

https://x.com/GoldenAgeTimes2/status/1963296613591302307
316   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Sep 4, 5:22pm  

In 2007, the Club for Growth opposed protectionist policies against China. Senators Chuck Schumer of New York and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina had proposed a bill to apply large tariffs on Chinese imports if that country did not increase the value of its currency. In response, the Club sponsored a petition of 1,028 economists who stated their opposition to protectionist policies against China. The list of economists included Nobel Laureates Finn Kydland, Edward Prescott, Thomas Schelling, and Vernon Smith. The petition played off a similar petition that was also signed by 1,028 economists in 1930 that opposed the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act.[45]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Club_for_Growth
317   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Oct 2, 10:45pm  

Massie attacks Trump on Social Media and votes with Democrats, but on the local campaign trail, he kisses Trump's ass and makes it seem him and Trump are buddies. Tries to take credit for the RFK Jr. pick, which everybody remembers was done live at a campaign event, nothing to do with Massie and he definitely wasn't consulted.

318   Patrick   2025 Oct 5, 4:00pm  

https://x.com/Holden_Culotta/status/1973747315534970914


Thomas Massie just exposed the three uniparty billionaires spending millions against him.

“One is Miriam Adelson.”

“The other two are hedge fund managers from West Palm Beach and New York City.”

“And one of them … is in Epstein’s black book.”

“They are mad at me because I will not vote for foreign aid. I believe we need to spend our money here in America.”

“They have all given to pro-abortion Democrats.”

“One of them did a fundraiser for Chuck Schumer.”

“One of them donated the max donation to Liz Cheney after she voted to impeach Donald Trump.”

“Why would three billionaires spend millions of dollars against a congressman in Kentucky?”

“Because I am changing the narrative in Washington, D.C.”

“These are the billionaires who aren’t really Republican or Democrat.
They’re part of the uniparty.”

“They have a lot of influence in Washington, D.C. But I don’t think … they’re going to have any influence here.”

“So I’m standing here not running against three other candidates. I’m standing here running against three billionaires.”





Rebecca Ramaley
@RebeccaRamaley
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Let’s call that West Palm Beach “hedge fund manager” by name - Paul Singer
320   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Oct 12, 8:06pm  

Massie angry that Fed Funds to private universities are coming with restrictions about men in women's bathrooms, having education sessions for incoming Foreign Students about US Civic/Values, etc.


Shouldn't conservative-libertarians be HAPPY that federal funds to private entities get more restrictions on them, so less funds get disbursed?



Informing Foreign Students about what America believes (not making it an elective class) and setting expectations of behavior should actually be required for the school to be eligible for any loans or grants at all.
322   Patrick   2025 Oct 17, 9:11pm  

Not true:


This appears to stem from a misinterpretation or conflation of the administration's broader anti-DEI/transgender policies. Massie has a history of opposing federal mandates on transgender issues (e.g., voting against bills funding transing minors), but he supports private institutions like MIT making their own decisions. Context from Massie's Statements (Oct. 11, 2025): Massie tweeted congratulations to MIT for "turning down a bribe to let the executive branch dictate what happens on its campus," calling it "the world’s best technical school" and criticizing federal interference.

He doubled down on Oct. 12, clarifying: "I’m including my voting record on the topic of men in women’s sports" to preempt critics assuming his stance implies support for transgender policies.

No Bathroom Mention: Searches of his X posts and news coverage yield zero references to MIT bathrooms. The Trump proposal focused on sports, admissions, and anti-discrimination certifications (e.g., against "antisemitism," which Massie called Orwellian speech policing).

Massie's Broader Views: He has questioned transgender athletes in women's sports (e.g., a 2023 hearing clip) and opposed federal funding for gender-affirming care, aligning with conservative positions.

His MIT support is libertarian-leaning: Keep government out of private education.
323   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Oct 17, 9:20pm  

The clown Massie was "only" $369 billion off for his prediction of the final deficit this year back in Fed when he voted with every dem against the GOP budget. And if you take his personal prediction of a $2.5 trillion deficit in Apr, 2025

"You did not vote for $2.5 trillion annual deficits for as far as the eye can see, unless you voted for Biden."

He was "only" $725 billion off on his prediction.

But you know keep believing the crap he spews.
https://x.com/unseen1_unseen/status/1978968344754819545
324   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Oct 17, 10:30pm  

Patrick says


Massie has a history of opposing federal mandates on transgender issues (e.g., voting against bills funding transing minors), but he supports private institutions like MIT making their own decisions.

None of this refutes the important point that wanting federal money to go to MIT ... AT ALL... is small government.

And certainly giving it with restrictions curtails spending more than just giving it without them.
328   Patrick   2025 Oct 19, 5:21pm  




The ignoring the Constitution bit is probably about Trump's strike on Iran without any threat to the US.
329   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Oct 19, 6:07pm  

BREAKING: MASSIE endorsed by Twitter Censorship Overlord JACK DORSEY

https://x.com/LeadingReport/status/1980051286486585827




330   ElYorsh   2025 Oct 19, 8:08pm  

^ ^ ^

More proof that Massie is a RINO.
331   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Oct 19, 9:47pm  

Yeah, Jack is the one who made the final call to ban Trump from Twitter.

And many others before and after that.
332   FortWayneHatesRealtors   2025 Oct 20, 7:06am  

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

Yeah, Jack is the one who made the final call to ban Trump from Twitter.

And many others before and after that.


Big tech is a giant nasty club of woke leftists. Still true today as it was back then.
333   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Oct 20, 12:03pm  

@PinoAmericano
Thomas Massie went to a private event with the chairman of a Democrat Socialist Coalition (member org) but he wants us to believe he had no idea who the guy was because congressmen just show up at random peoples homes without doing any research. Sure dude.
https://x.com/PinoAmericano/status/1980098399509836017

Just like Massie is purely by chance aligning with Ro Khanna.
335   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Oct 20, 1:23pm  

Huh, strange donations from Masimo Corp. Both Ultraleft Squad and Massie both.




336   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Oct 20, 1:38pm  

Check out Club for Growth which is anti-Tariff, pro-Wide Open Borders

Club for Growth runs "Free Trade Facts" about how outsourcing American Jobs is great for Americans.
https://freetradefacts.org/
338   Patrick   2025 Oct 20, 5:00pm  

I still like Massie.

He's very clear, consistent, and principled.

Trump just doesn't like him because he keeps calling out AIPAC and Trump's questionable moves.
339   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Oct 20, 6:19pm  

Patrick says

Trump just doesn't like him because he keeps calling out AIPAC and Trump's questionable moves.

And he's for open borders and against e-verify (without any alternative, since he WANTS to be able to hire illegals)

Oh, and he voted on an amendment that would DOUBLE the number of H1B spouses eligible for work permits (7% to 15%)
340   Patrick   2025 Oct 20, 6:38pm  

Massie's campaign site explicitly states: "I support President Trump’s efforts to stop illegal immigration and voted to fund the wall for the full amount requested by the President."

2024: Voted for H.R. 7511 (Laken Riley Act): Massie supported this bill to increase interior enforcement, allowing states to sue the federal government over non-enforcement of immigration laws and abuse of parole for illegal aliens.

2014: Cosponsored H.R. 5014 (Illegal Entry Accountability Act): Massie backed this bill to suspend U.S. foreign aid to Mexico, Honduras, Guatemala, and El Salvador until they take action to reduce illegal border crossings, directly targeting Mexico's role in migration flows.
341   Patrick   2025 Oct 20, 6:41pm  


In a 2023 interview, Massie reiterated that E-Verify could be weaponized to monitor citizens, comparing it to a “national ID card” that could track employment and movement beyond immigration enforcement.

On June 8, 2025, he emphasized deporting criminals over E-Verify, saying: “I support a strong border, and agree strongly with deporting criminals,” but rejected E-Verify as a solution.

Massie’s objections are rooted in his libertarian philosophy, emphasizing limited government, individual privacy, and skepticism of federal programs. Massie argues E-Verify’s database, which cross-references Social Security numbers with federal records, could become a “backdoor national ID” system. He fears it might track all workers, not just immigrants, creating a government-controlled employment registry.

He’s noted historical abuses of similar systems (e.g., NSA surveillance), warning E-Verify could expand to monitor citizens’ activities beyond immigration enforcement.

Massie contends E-Verify doesn’t address root causes like illegal border crossings or criminal aliens. In his June 2025 post, he said it “won’t enforce immigration” and prioritized deportations instead.

He points to loopholes (e.g., stolen identities bypassing checks) and argues enforcement should focus on physical barriers and deportations, as seen in his support for H.R. 7511 (Laken Riley Act) and H.R. 5014 (cutting aid to Mexico for lax border control).
342   Patrick   2025 Oct 20, 6:46pm  

Grok:


Did Thomas Massie Vote for an Amendment Doubling H-1B Spouses Eligible for Work Permits (7% to 15%)?

No, there is no evidence that Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) voted for such an amendment. Based on searches of congressional records, voting histories, and his public statements, no matching amendment exists in recent sessions (118th or 119th Congress, 2023–2025) related to H-1B spouse work permits (H-4 EAD program).

The 7% to 15% figure you mentioned appears to refer to unrelated provisions in the Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act (H.R. 1044/S. 386), which Massie co-sponsored in 2023. This bill adjusts per-country visa caps for family- and employment-based green cards (increasing family caps from 7% to 15% and eliminating the 7% cap for employment visas to reduce backlogs), but it does not address H-1B spouses' work authorization or double eligibility for permits.

Proposed Change in H.R. 1044 (2023): The bill increases the per-country cap for family-based immigrant visas from 7% to 15% of the total annual allocation (e.g., from ~15,820 to ~33,900 visas per country out of 226,000).
343   HeadSet   2025 Oct 20, 7:18pm  

Patrick says

Massie’s objections are rooted in his libertarian philosophy

A main tenant of Libertarians is the free flow of people and capital across borders.
345   Patrick   2025 Oct 21, 1:26am  

HeadSet says

A main tenant of Libertarians is the free flow of people and capital across borders.


Yet Massie is consistently opposed to open borders.
346   HeadSet   2025 Oct 22, 8:13am  

Patrick says


Yet Massie is consistently opposed to open borders.

Is that true, or is he being disingenuous? Support moderately effective physical methods of deportation, but adamantly oppose E-Verify that would remove the main incentive to illegally enter the US. Massie seems to be for the H1B and related programs, with no provisions to prevent these programs as being used to hire cheaper foreign labor.

Your own post says "This bill adjusts per-country visa caps for family- and employment-based green cards (increasing family caps from 7% to 15% and eliminating the 7% cap for employment visas to reduce backlogs)." That statement "to reduce backlogs" is blatantly hollow, as the desired effect seems to be to increase the supply of cheap foreign labor.
349   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Oct 29, 2:34pm  




In 2024, Massie endorsed... DeSantis.
350   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Oct 29, 7:49pm  

JD Vance: "The problem with Thomas isn't one issue, or 2,3,4 issues. It's that every time we need a difficult vote, he was unwilling to provide it."

351   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 1, 9:03am  

Epstein-Trump is a wedge op. Massie didn't care until 2024.


https://x.com/i/grok/share/TEZwqqRcinjiPDQKGZf2Az6c0

Just like MTG wanted to Deport them All until a few weeks ago.
352   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 3, 2:44pm  

Congrats to Massie on his new Bride!


353   Patrick   2025 Nov 3, 8:45pm  

Everyone should be yelling bloody murder about Trump's continued coverup of the Epstein files. It's a yuge failure. So disappointing.

DemoralizerOfPanicans says

every time we need a difficult vote


Sounds like every time they wanted him to violate his principles, he wouldn't.

I love his single-issue bill idea, his opposition to the Fed, and his refusal to obey his AIPAC handler like pretty much all other Congressmen do.
354   DemoralizerOfPanicans   2025 Nov 3, 11:23pm  

Patrick says

I love his single-issue bill idea,

Can't happen with the Fillibuster. Otherwise no spending bill would move, or would be shaken down for an extra $500B in spending for every bill that passed.

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