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Finally Some Sanity in Our Bloviating Class


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2022 May 28, 10:30am   481 views  10 comments

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THIS:

"Finland and Sweden are in no real danger of any invasion, and neutrality worked well for them. Russia is a shadow of its former self, with a broken military and damaged economy due to an attritional war of choice, and collectively, Europe massively outspends Russia. In fact, Germany, France, and Britain combined are more than capable of providing deterrent forces in the Baltics, and have their own nuclear umbrella. Neither Finland nor Sweden adds enough to the security of the alliance to justify the additional costs. Adding them would mean two more states as protectorates for whom the United States would be treaty-bound to go to a nuclear war."


https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/expanding-nato-will-further-consolidate-europe%E2%80%99s-dependence-us-202636

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5   richwicks   2022 Jun 7, 2:14am  

PeopleUnited says

Government is corrupt but you must remember who is pulling the strings.



I know who is pulling the strings, colluders with the enemy of life itself. Don't just think the politicians are innocent.
6   Bd6r   2022 Jun 7, 8:49am  

HunterTits says


Fine as long as the US leaves NATO.

That is very reasonable. Other than Budapest memorandum promises, USA has no interest in this war or in European affairs. Let Europeans worry about their problems and let them pay for their own defense. After that, may be German army will have guns to practice instead of broomsticks (but very likely not).
7   Misc   2022 Jun 7, 8:50am  

If the US left NATO, the Europeans would be shooting the shit out of each other within 10 years.
8   Bd6r   2022 Jun 7, 8:51am  

Misc says

If the US left NATO, the Europeans would be shooting the shit out of each other within 10 years.

with broomsticks West European armies are currently armed with? Soy persons in West Europe are not capable of anything other than shouting pronouns at enemy
9   Rin   2022 Jun 7, 1:40pm  

Here's the thing, if there's going to be a NATO in the future, it should contain only one European nation and that's the UK.

In other words, after the heat of the War of 1812 settled down and the hatchet was buried, the UK and USA formed a semi-permanent alliance.

Now, that's NATO, which is the USA, Canada, and the UK. Everyone else is a perimeter ally or let's say a friend of the family, not a part of a formal alliance.

There's no need to expand this any further. If either the UK or Canada is invaded, we come to their rescue and that's that. We don't need to fight the border battles for Finland, Moldavia, or even Cyrus, given the angst between Greeks and Turks.

Otherwise, NATO is a joke where every member gets to use their membership to rally troops for their private missions.
10   AmericanKulak   2022 Jun 7, 2:37pm  

Misc says


If the US left NATO, the Europeans would be shooting the shit out of each other within 10 years.

Excellent! We have a huge arms industry, and it will not only profit us by selling to both sides, but we won't have to put up with the "Wise Old Sad Uncle" lectures from EU bureaucrats and European Politicians about American violence.

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