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Ugh, I'm tired of seed oils


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2022 May 19, 11:24am   601 views  22 comments

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At one time I would have thought it too paranoid to oppose seed oils like cottonseed oil and rapeseed oil (aka Canola oil through rebranding).

But I've decided that:

1. I just don't like the taste of them.
2. They are probably not good for you.

Cottonseed oil is actually toxic until chemically altered and refined. It's also known as Crisco, for crystallised cottonseed oil.

I know that food makers like them because they are extremely cheap and last a long time, but that doesn't mean you should eat them.

I was looking through Trader Joe's for foods without them, and they are literally in almost every packaged food, including breads. I could not even find hummus without them, so I made my own hummus the other day, and it's very good!

It was just a can of chickpeas, tahini, crushed fresh garlic, olive oil, cayenne, salt, lemon juice in a Cuisinart. Takes a few minutes to get it smooth. Definitely tastes better than theirs.

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13   mell   2022 May 19, 10:35pm  

Patrick says

richwicks says

AmericanKulak says

Save Bacon Grease, works like a charm.


When I was a kid growing up in the sticks, my mother would save the bacon grease and we would walk into the woods to dump it. That shit will clog up pipes and we treated it like it was a deadly poison.


We used to throw it out too, but then I remember my dad saying they used to spread bacon grease on bread. Damn tasty, and also great for frying things in.

I no longer believe saturated fats are deadly.

Why did people and MDs promulgate this shite? It's clear that fat gets broken up by digestion and the majority of cholesterol is made by the body. Saturated fats were never a danger and the low and plant based fat bullshit was probably the 2nd biggest health scam after the covid jabs.
14   AmericanKulak   2022 May 20, 1:36am  

Just use regular butter. When people cooked with it all the time, they were a lot thinner.
15   HeadSet   2022 May 20, 10:58am  

stereotomy says
Chik fil a used to be awesome when they were still using peanut oil to fry their chicken. Then they switched to the sex crime oil (RAPEseed), and the flavor was never the same.

So that's what happened. I did notice a change in flavor for the worst a while back.
16   richwicks   2022 May 20, 7:07pm  

AmericanKulak says

Just use regular butter. When people cooked with it all the time, they were a lot thinner.


Butter is fine but because it contains water, it tends to spatter since the water boils away. Ghee is a lot less of a hassle to cook with, and it's basically the same thing, without water.
17   ElYorsh   2022 May 20, 7:15pm  

mell says

Why did people and MDs promulgate this shite? It's clear that fat gets broken up by digestion and the majority of chole...



Earlier studies were finding arteries clogged with saturated fat and they correlated that with people's diets.
18   mich   2022 May 21, 7:43am  

I changed my diet years ago and studies nutrition and I have to say that's the biggest tip or most important change to one's diet polyunsaturated fats are basically trans fat. They're cheap that's why they're everywhere. After I read Dr. Cate's book I asked my grandma what foods they ate in El Salvador and sure enough it was the pillars she talks about in her book animals fats, bone broth, organ meats (grandma didn't like them :P) You can read an article here on her site about the oils : https://drcate.com/list-of-good-fats-and-oils-versus-bad/ and her book was one of the best I've read on nutrition: deep nutrition
19   NuttBoxer   2022 May 21, 9:11am  

That table is a good example of the general rule we should always follow when it comes to health. Eat what's natural and organic. Avoid what's processed, full of GMO's, and full of pesticides.
20   AmericanKulak   2022 May 21, 9:18am  

You mean the future FAGMAN cafeteria staff is lying about PUFA soaked plant based foods?
21   Tenpoundbass   2022 May 21, 2:35pm  

That list says grapeseed Oil is to be avoided, but I think it made that list because it's thought of as a seed oil.
The best use I believe it has is sauté or stir fry. You only need a smidgeon compared to other oils and fats that the food keeps soaking up and you have to keep adding oil or fat.
When I stir fry, I stir fry each veggie separate, and the meats, then mix it all together when they are all done.
The thing is, I end up with 70% or more of the oil still in the wok that I started with. Where as with other fats, I end up using 4 times what I started with, adding more fat as I stir fry each ingredient. The food NOT absorbing the oil, has to account for more than "Good fat, Bad fat" alone.

You're not going to use it as a salad dressing, or deep fry with it.
It's not a good choice for eggs, or frying up breakfast items. But I do believe it to be the best fat for sautéing where you're not trying to consume the fat that is used.
22   AmericanKulak   2022 May 21, 3:55pm  

Hmmmm


Look at that explosion of PUFAs in the 90s.

(found this at a site I think linked in this thread)

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