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66   SunnyvaleCA   2022 May 3, 2:55pm  

For all the memes revolving around only women being in charge of deciding this issue, we should note that Roe v. Wade was decided 7-to-2 in favor of abortion by an all male supreme court. Sandra Day O'Connor was appointed 8 years later in 1981.
67   EBGuy   2022 May 3, 4:56pm  

Good summary about The Right of Privacy:
The question of whether the Constitution protects privacy in ways not expressly provided in the Bill of Rights is controversial. Many originalists, including most famously Judge Robert Bork in his ill-fated Supreme Court confirmation hearings, have argued that no such general right of privacy exists. The Supreme Court, however, beginning as early as 1923 and continuing through its recent decisions, has broadly read the "liberty" guarantee of the Fourteenth Amendment to guarantee a fairly broad right of privacy that has come to encompass decisions about child rearing, procreation, marriage, and termination of medical treatment. Polls show most Americans support this broader reading of the Constitution.
...
The Burger Court extended the right of privacy to include a woman's right to have an abortion in Roe v Wade (1972), but thereafter resisted several invitations to expand the right.
68   WookieMan   2022 May 3, 5:04pm  

Patrick says
Lol, I did miss that.

Just scrolled this thread. How in the hell did you two miss that? That was the first thing I saw in the image. Chicks brawling is funny, but I'm a peacemaker generally. I saw the bong first... I'm not a fighter unless it's for family or friends so that shit is a turn off if the chicks are not naked (not family....).
69   FarmersWon   2022 May 3, 5:22pm  

Patrick says
On reflection, I think there is a strong basis to conclude that it's a state's right to choose whether to allow abortion or not.


I think Biden may have told judges to make this decision to galvanize democrats..especially women and then win elections.
70   WookieMan   2022 May 3, 7:05pm  

FarmersWon says
I think Biden may have told judges to make this decision to galvanize democrats..especially women and then win elections.

Eh. I'd say the majority D or R is generally against abortion. It's the vocal minority that speaks out. That's the way it is with everything.

My nephew is one of the few blacks in an all white school district basically. He's the most popular kid. His best buddies family owns probably 1-2k acres of farmland, I grew up playing sports against the kids dad. They have 5-6 combines worth $300-400k each and all the other related equipment. We're not as divided as the media would have you believe. Honestly turn off the TV and social media.

If someone (not you) wants to call Patnet an echo chamber, cool. The alternative is far worse at this point.
72   pudil   2022 May 4, 5:52am  

It is the right thing to do, I don’t care if it galvanizes democrats. Roe was a terrible decision that has been ripping this country apart for 60 years.

Even if congress passes an equivalent law tomorrow, it would be 1000% better then the current situation. At least then the American people could have a say in the laws that govern them instead of unelected judges.

Better yet, leave it to the states to decide the controversial issues that we will never be able to agree on. That is how this country was designed.

Overturning Roe is like pulling a bullet out of your arm. Yes it’s going to hurt, but we won’t be able to heal until we do.
73   Patrick   2022 May 4, 9:58am  


Leonydus Johnson (leave/me/alone)
@LeonydusJohnson
4h
"It is not a person"

"It has no rights"

"Ending this will cause harm and death"

"It will have a hard life otherwise"

"It can't survive on its own"

"This is my Constitutional right"

"SCOTUS must not abandon their own precedent"

- Pro-slavery activists in the mid-1800s
May 4, 2022 · 12:00 PM UTC
79   Patrick   2022 May 4, 12:03pm  

https://notthebee.com/article/chief-justice-roberts-scotus-leak?source=patrick.net


Chief Justice Roberts Orders Marshal Of Supreme Court To Investigate SCOTUS Leak, Might Use The FBI As Well
80   Ceffer   2022 May 4, 12:19pm  

Judge Roberts is demanding three weeks vacation in Mossad's latest pedophile honey trap resort in exchange for investigating the breach.
83   Tenpoundbass   2022 May 5, 5:46am  

what if I told you there was no leaked draft?
what if this is all just midterms Kabuki theater?

They can't win without lies. And SCOTUS has proven themselves to be establishment tools.
85   PeopleUnited   2022 May 5, 6:10am  

Tenpoundbass says
They can't win without lies.


They can’t even win with lies. But they keep lying to us to deceive the sheep into thinking they are winning.
86   AmericanKulak   2022 May 5, 6:22am  

Romo's Law.

Their goal is to destroy Western Civ. Every stance is predicated on that. That is why they can be Muh Private Company Can Ban Who They Like one day, and the next demand Federal Disinformation Boards regulating Big Tech.
87   zzyzzx   2022 May 5, 6:45am  

I think that the only reason this is coming up is because Democrats want to scare people into voting for them. They know that they are in trouble.
92   Patrick   2022 May 5, 1:07pm  

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/roe-roe-roe-your-court?s=r&source=patrick.net


the simple fact is that few here even know the simple facts, much less complex contexts.




Colin Wright
@SwipeWright
You know, it's possible to be pro-choice up to a certain point, and pro-life beyond a certain point. Pro-choice versus pro-life is a false binary.

There, I'm sure that fixes everything and the responses to this will all be calm and reasonable. 😀
May 3rd 2022


93   Patrick   2022 May 6, 8:16am  

https://babylonbee.com/news/hello-again-old-friend-progressive-dusts-off-my-body-my-choice-sign-she-put-in-storage-at-beginning-of-the-pandemic?source=patrick.net





PORTLAND, OR—Local progressive Juniper Clouts has once again become outraged this week, this time causing her to go searching for her old signs that express her anger about the current thing. Luckily, she found her old "My Body, My Choice" sign she had tucked away at the beginning of the pandemic.

"Ah good as new," said Juniper, dusting off the old sign. "I missed not being able to hold you up after those backward, idiotic anti-vaxxers started trying to use you too."

"Bodily autonomy only applies to us women trying to abort another body—I mean a clump of cells. It clearly doesn't apply to the government telling you to inject a foreign, experimental substance into your own body," continued Juniper. "Why is that so hard for people to understand?"

According to sources, Juniper Clouts was then spotted at a local pro-abortion protest shouting things like "MY BABY'S BODY, MY CHOICE", and "Keep the government off my body, unless they want to vaxx me again, then it's ok."

At publishing time, Juniper realized she was actually protesting at an anti-mandate rally. She immediately fell to her knees and tore her beloved sign in half while shouting "NOOOOOOO!"
97   RWSGFY   2022 May 6, 9:10am  

Patrick says








But it's been fixed! Weemenz can now be conscripted too, right?
98   Ceffer   2022 May 6, 1:09pm  

RWSGFY says
But it's been fixed! Weemenz can now be conscripted too, right?





Military SJW lesbians are skilled in using their strap ons as nunchucks. They are not to be trifled with.
99   Patrick   2022 May 7, 5:23pm  

https://notthebee.com/article/woman-sorry-people-who-bleed-are-starting-to-sterilize-themselves-over-the-pending-roe-decision?source=patrick.net

Women (sorry, people who bleed) are starting to sterilize themselves over the pending Roe decision


It's kind of like the vaxx.

It's hard not to encourage them.

"Yes, yes, you do need that booster too..."
101   Patrick   2022 May 7, 7:27pm  



My personal position is that abortion not a binary thing, like biological sex, which is obviously binary.

An egg is not a person, and I don't think a fertilized egg is a person either.

But a baby is a person just before it is born, and clearly is a person for months before that.

There is a fuzzy line where personhood happens, and I'd rather err on the side of caution. "The first synapses in baby’s spinal cord form during week 7 of pregnancy. By week 8, electrical activity begins in the brain..." (from some random site)

So maybe in the first two months it's OK.
104   PeopleUnited   2022 May 7, 10:19pm  

Patrick says
An egg is not a person, and I don't think a fertilized egg is a person either.


Life begins not at fertilization, but when the blood supply from the mother starts nourishing the embryo. The reason I say this is that life cannot occur without a mother. Even Jesus, whose conception involved no sex, needed a willing mother to accept implantation. Even test tube babies don’t become human until a mother accepts them into her uterine lining. Simply put, the uterus gives life to an embryo.
105   AmericanKulak   2022 May 8, 12:46am  

Consider this:

The same year the Liberal Court used a novel Legal Theory to create a right to abortion in defiance of all precedence...

It became a criminal act to interfere with the eggs of Sea Turtles.

1973.

But seriously, the first thing that came to mind was some Horror Movie where the Tribesmen are worshipping Shub-Niggerath dancing around with dead babies.

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