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socal2 says

Do you think Ukraine is more brutal and corrupt than Russia

Yes, definitely more than Russia.

Patrick says

socal2 says

Do you think Ukraine is more brutal and corrupt than Russia

Yes, definitely more than Russia.

How do you measure level
of corruption and brutality?
# and net worth of olygarchs? # of superyahts? Murder rates?

Or just by feelz?

https://babylonbee.com/news/starving-american-babies-sneak-into-ukraine-in-hopes-of-receiving-federal-aid?source=patrick.net

RWSGFY says

Or just by feelz?

Did you look it up?

Cold blooded murder by non-brutal Russian orcs.

Probably just crisis actors or CGI?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGg7ZJlihi8&source=patrick.net

Patrick says

RWSGFY says

Or just by feelz?

Did you look it up?

I actually did. Murder rate slightly lower than the US, way lower then Russia and WAAAY-WAAAY lower then Mexico (like 4x times lower).

Per Forbes their "oligarchs" are fucking paupers with barely a couple of billions to rub together. All 7 of them. Whereas Russian oligarchs are numbered in at least 4 dozens with half of them having more than the Ukie top dog has. (And top 7 having $20B or more net worth even now, undr sanctions).

As for superyachts: the staggering number and size of these owned by the Russian oligarchs have been on display for the last 2 months as they are being seized all over the world.

73 liberator's party buses ruined during attempted river crossing near Belogorivka:

https://t.me/zloyodessit/15093?source=patrick.net

RWSGFY says

How do you measure level
of corruption and brutality?

How many US politician's relatives work for Russia? Ukraine?

I'm not on either side of the Russia - Ukraine war. I am curious about the Burisma board that Hunter was on and that Trump got impeached for. What's up with that?

The notion that Ukraine was such an appealing democratic model in Eastern Europe that the country’s mere existence terrified Putin may be a comforting myth to U.S. politicians and pundits, but it is a myth. Ukraine is far from being a democratic-capitalist model and an irresistible magnet for Russia’s groaning masses. The reality is murkier and troubling: Ukraine has long been one of the more corrupt countries in the international system. In its annual report published in January 2022, Transparency International ranked Ukraine 123rd of the 180 countries it examined, with a score of 32 on a one to 100 point scale. By comparison, notoriously corrupt Russia ranked just modestly lower, 139th, with a score of 29.

Ukraine’s track record of protecting democracy and civil liberties is not much better than its performance on corruption. In Freedom House’s 2022 report, Ukraine is listed in the “partly free” category, with a score of 61 out of a possible 100. Other countries in that category include such bastions of liberal democracy as Rodrigo Duterte’s Philippines (55), Serbia (62), Hungary (59), and Singapore (47). Interestingly, Hungary—which has been a target of vitriolic criticism among progressives in the West because of Prime Minister Viktor Orban’s conservative social policy—ranks eight points higher than Ukraine, which is the recipient of uncritical praise from the same Western ideological factions.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/whitewashing-ukraines-corruption/?source=patrick.net

Onvacation says

RWSGFY says

How do you measure level
of corruption and brutality?

How many US politician's relatives work for Russia? Ukraine?

I'm not on either side of the Russia - Ukraine war. I am curious about the Burisma board that Hunter was on and that Trump got impeached for. What's up with that?

Hunter Biden worked with Russia too: his connections to Elena Baturina and Vladimir Yevtushenkov are well-known. What's up with that?

So 1:1. Now what?

Not to mention that with Russia being way less transparent we have no way to know who was doing what there.

Patrick says

socal2 says

Do you think Ukraine is more brutal and corrupt than Russia

Yes, definitely more than Russia.

AmericanKulak says

Transparency International ranked Ukraine 123rd of the 180 countries it examined, with a score of 32 on a one to 100 point scale. By comparison, notoriously corrupt Russia ranked just modestly lower, 139th, with a score of 29.

So less corrupt then Russia, not more.

@Patrick.

As for "brutal": Ukraine's murder rate is 6.2 vs Russia's 7.3.

PS. Mexico is at 28.4 in case you're interested.

OK, Ukraine and Russia are similarly brutal and corrupt.

So why, aside from arms sales for the oligarchy, is US taxpayer money being diverted from US citizens in need to support Ukraine?

Might it have something to do with Hunter Biden's no-work $50K/month job at Burisima? Or the similar jobs of the sons Pelosi, Kerry, and Romney?

Patrick says

So why ... is US taxpayer money being diverted from US citizens in need to support Ukraine?

Because US of A (along with UK and RuZZia) has guaranteed Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity in exchange for them surrendering their nukes, ICBMs and strategic bombers. We've been through this what feels like 100 times already, somebody even posted a link to the text of the Budapest Memorandum on the UN website.

How big a price would you put on the 3rd largest nuclear arsenal in the world being completely elimitated? Not worth $100 per US person, ultimately spent on US-made arms?

Then there are little things like Helsinki Accords, UN Charter and other such "bullshit".... But who needs treaties and rules when we can have feelz! Putin's feelz to be exact.

https://gettr.com/post/p19jzse7cc1?source=patrick.net

Arnie1974
@Arnie1974
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Rand Paul Single-Handedly Blocks Quick Passage of 40 Billion Dollars to Ukraine

"The biggest threat to the United States today is debt, inflation, and the destruction of the dollar. We cannot save Ukraine by killing our economic strength."

Arnie1974
@Arnie1974
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Joe Biden said that thanks to Western sanctions the Rouble had turned to rubble.

The Rouble is now the best performing currency this year against the US Dollar up 11%.

Patrick says

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/biden-wanted-33b-more-for-ukraine?s=r&source=patrick.net

Biden Wanted $33B More For Ukraine. Congress Quickly Raised it to $40B. Who Benefits?
Tens of billions, soon to be much more, are flying out of U.S. coffers to Ukraine as Americans suffer, showing who runs the U.S. Government, and for whose benefit. ...

While it is extremely difficult to isolate any benefit to ordinary American citizens from all of this, it requires no effort to see that there is a tiny group of Americans who do benefit greatly from this massive expenditure of funds. That is the industry of weapons manufacturers. So fortunate are they that the White House has met with them on several occasions to urge them to expand their capacity to produce sophisticated weapons so that the U.S. government can buy...

Government has their own geo political priorities of the ruling class. I used to look at North Korea and USSR and think to myself... "man they would let their people starve in order to build military, that can't possibly happen in US". And yet here we are. Economy collapsing, everything going to shit, but faggot ass fucking government ignores all of us (fake democracy really) and keeps on spending everything on wars, wars that have nothing to do with us really. What do we have to do with Ukraine? Nothing, other than the war against Russia.

Worst part is how we have fake democracy and laws are selectively enforced. Our own government ignores laws they made, and enforce them selectively based on which party is in charge. For example, intimidating judges is a federal crime, however because it's left doing the intimidation the faggot Biden administration does nothing. Republicans are quietly sitting on their dicks as usual, watching America get fucked, probably afraid and fully cucked by cancel culture. BLM riots... its fine. American people protest... its called insurrection. Fuck this government and everyone running it, they are all pieces of shit nazi fuck sticks.

RWSGFY says

Patrick says

socal2 says

But since most of these countries are brutal and corrupt

Ukraine is also brutal and corrupt.

How is it "brutal" exactly?

(Apart from brutally killing thousands of RuZZian soldiers who came into their land uninvited, that is)

Ukraine is run by a mafia. Zelenksyy is the penultimate joke, an actor promoted to the presidency through Ihor Kolomoyskyi who isn't even eligible to be president because of his dual nationality, but because he has triple nationality, their constitution didn't foresee that.

He is a puppet, his master is a gang leader, and Ukraine is impoverished due to their government. Zelenskyy doesn't give a fuck about how many Ukrainians die in this stupid, pointless war, which - if Russia is to be believed - is simply about preventing NATO from further encroaching on their borders, and ending the bombing of Eastern Ukraine. Zelenskyy is fully aware this will be the end result, but instead of just agreeing to these reasonable demands which will be met anyhow, he's willing to allow the entire fucking population of a country to suffer.

Any more questions about the brutality of Ukraine's CIA puppet government?

You know goddamned well that Russia, if they really believe are facing a crisis, can just use nuclear weapons to end this in a day. If this is the crisis that Russia has been claiming it is for EIGHT FUCKING YEARS, that's what they will do if they can't win a conventional war. Ukraine will lose this war in time, it's just a question of how many people die before that happens. Zelenskyy, Ihor Kolomoyskyi, and the criminal syndicate called the US government doesn't give a shit. From the point of view of the US government, the only point of this war is to weaken Russia. They've openly stated that.

Zelenskyy and Kolomoyskyi are invaders, they are Zionist foreign nationals. They don't care how many "people" die. They are purposely destroying the nation, it's not THEIR nation, they're just parasites.

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Zelensky points out the embarrassing ongoing, old shadow alliance between the Khazarian Mafia and the Nazis. The Khazarians have been using Nazis as slaughter wolves and sheep dogs against their Stockholm Syndrome besotted captive victims for generations, to herd 'evolved survivors' into Israel. It's not the contradiction that it appears to be.

Filmed in Detroit at some retirement facility:

https://youtu.be/1GUrNPPTSWM?source=patrick.net

richwicks says

Zelenskyy and Kolomoyskyi are invaders, they are Zionist foreign nationals.

This is EXACTLY what Nazis said about German Jews.

Both Zelensky and Kolomoyski are Jews born in Ukraine.

The best way for somebody named "richwicks" to see a real-life Nazi is in his own fucking mirror.

Ceffer says

Khazarian Mafia

Oh, Khazarian Mafia, that explains everything! Who the fuck are Khazarians? Zelensky is Khazarian? Or that Kolomoyski dude (for which our very own Nazi writing under handle "richwicks" has a strange attachment)? An oligarch? I looked him up, btw: Forbes lists his net worth as meager $1B. So what's so special about him again? Apart from him being a Khazarian masquerading as Ukraine-born Jew?

This must be a record of some sorts:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QiybJ8UuHXA&ab_channel=TheSun

Eric Holder says

richwicks says

Zelenskyy and Kolomoyskyi are invaders, they are Zionist foreign nationals.

This is EXACTLY what Nazis said about German Jews.

Both Zelensky and Kolomoyski are Jews born in Ukraine.

So? Al Capone was born in the United States. Jeffrey Epstein was born in the United States. Joe Biden was, so was Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris, George W. Bush, James Comey, Dick Cheney...

Doesn't mean they aren't traitors to this nation. That's who runs Ukraine, treasonous scum, and just because they are Jews doesn't change that fact.

They are nothing but criminal scum. Don't try to pull the race card on me. They have sold out their nation and made a deal with the devil, the CIA.

FUCK THEM

https://bioclandestine.substack.com/p/russian-military-exposes-the-deep?s=r

Of the tens of billions in profit from all of the endless injections, some is then kicked back to the Ideologues responsible for formulating the plot. They use the funds to finance their campaigns and maintain their control.

Russians finally get ass whipped trying to mount pontoon bridges over river around Izyum. Lots of tanks lost with casualties. Azov forces making successful forays toward the Russian border around Kharkiv.
https://southfront.org/kiev-forces-approach-russian-border/

Liberators carrying cutting edge modern infantry rifles (from 1891):

https://mobile.twitter.com/200_zoka/status/1525055727286599682?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1525055727286599682%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thedrive.com%2Fthe-war-zone%2Fukraine-situation-report-russia-withdraws-from-kharkiv

Patrick says

Merkel was on Putin's payroll, just like Schröder before her. Hence the closing of NPPs and ridiculous dependence on Putler's gas. That shit along with corrupting German politicians was a weapon from the get go, by design.

<<< Truth.

Supposedly unfortunate cannon fodder Ukrainian soldiers dying at the rate of half to full battalion a day. South Front videos showing Ukrainian soldiers captured around Izyum look like they are barely fitted for combat and many are nearly old enough to be geezers.

Evolution (or rather devolution) of the planned encirclement of "Nazis" in Dumbass:

RWSGFY says

Merkel was on Putin's payroll,

Russia wasn't caught tapping Merkel's phone line just to have Merkel do absolutely nothing about it.

Obama was.